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Here many of you are whining about heterosexuality and going on about systematic oppression unable to understand how life or people as individuals operate.

You as an individual whine about straights, I as a straight have a problem with you, at this point in time I don't care for your "muh systematic oppression" to justify your childish
attitude towards me.

If you have a problem with someone celebrating straight pride day as some sort of mockery against gay pride fine but when you start going on about "oh those white men had it so tough" or any of that crap then we have a problem.

As an individual you could have had a golden life or suffered horrible abuse regardless of whether you think one makes it harder or easier so I would prefer you hypocrites understand the mentality of an individual, you give me shit, I give you shit back whether you think I'm privileged, probably am better off than most but some people seem to think I should suddenly be a doormat. Nice to celebrate being better.
 

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Hell, the hospital I had an operation on my ear in as a child had an N64 in it, which my sisters thought were cool, but neither of them were like "Damn, I wish I had a head-wound so I could play N64!".
Were they like "Damn, I wish I could play N64!"? as that's the point I was making.

In the example provided it wasn't the kid saying "I want asthma" it was the kid saying "I want the inhaler" they may not need it for life saving purposes, but it's not the life saving purposes they want it for.
 

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wulf3n said:
I would say it's more like getting an inhaler that looks like a lightsaber and plays music. Sure it's primary purpose is to save lives, but it looks like a hell of a lot of fun regardless. Can you really blame the brother for wanting their own?
You can always join in on the festivities. How exactly would a heterosexual pride party look like, to begin with? IF you're going to celebrate all diversity spectrums of sexuality roughly attributeable, or is it going to be only straight cis people dancing at your average rave? I mean, if you take away the kink aspects that could still be considered heterosexual relationships, it just starts looking like your average dance party.

That's kind of boring, tbh.

If you liven it up with hardcore BDSM play. Mistresses spanking sissies. Straight crossdressers doing Abba and heterosexual transgender couples latin dancing with glorious sequins outfits on floats decorated like clouds ... then it might be a party worth going to. I mean, if the primary purpose is because you want to have fun, then it's just going to look like a LGBTQ pride party/parade.

One of which you were never barred from participating in in the first place.
 

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wulf3n said:
Phasmal said:
Hell, the hospital I had an operation on my ear in as a child had an N64 in it, which my sisters thought were cool, but neither of them were like "Damn, I wish I had a head-wound so I could play N64!".
Were they like "Damn, I wish I could play N64!"? as that's the point I was making.

In the example provided it wasn't the kid saying "I want asthma" it was the kid saying "I want the inhaler" they may not need it for life saving purposes, but it's not the life saving purposes they want it for.
Yes, for a moment, and then my mother reminded them that I only got to spend so much time on it because I was in hospital and had my head cut open and stitched up again.
That's what I mean. People should be reminded of these things, instead of acting like grabby little children.

Also, stepping away from the analogy for a second, there is literally nothing stopping straight people from going and celebrating at Pride. Go, have fun, wave rainbow flags, nobody's stopping you.
 

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Phasmal said:
wulf3n said:
Phasmal said:
Hell, the hospital I had an operation on my ear in as a child had an N64 in it, which my sisters thought were cool, but neither of them were like "Damn, I wish I had a head-wound so I could play N64!".
Were they like "Damn, I wish I could play N64!"? as that's the point I was making.

In the example provided it wasn't the kid saying "I want asthma" it was the kid saying "I want the inhaler" they may not need it for life saving purposes, but it's not the life saving purposes they want it for.
Yes, for a moment, and then my mother reminded them that I only got to spend so much time on it because I was in hospital and had my head cut open and stitched up again.
That's what I mean. People should be reminded of these things, instead of acting like grabby little children.

Also, stepping away from the analogy for a second, there is literally nothing stopping straight people from going and celebrating at Pride. Go, have fun, wave rainbow flags, nobody's stopping you.
Many of us already do.
 

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Phasmal said:
Yes, for a moment, and then my mother reminded them that I only got to spend so much time on it because I was in hospital and had my head cut open and stitched up again.
That's what I mean. People should be reminded of these things, instead of acting like grabby little children.
Sure, but that's not going to stop people wanting the fun aspects. It's human nature.

Phasmal said:
Also, stepping away from the analogy for a second, there is literally nothing stopping straight people from going and celebrating at Pride. Go, have fun, wave rainbow flags, nobody's stopping you.
Too true.

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You can always join in on the festivities.
Indeed.

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How exactly would a heterosexual pride party look like, to begin with? IF you're going to celebrate all diversity spectrums of sexuality roughly attributeable, or is it going to be only straight cis people dancing at your average rave? I mean, if you take away the kink aspects that could still be considered heterosexual relationships, it just starts looking like your average dance party.

That's kind of boring, tbh.
I honestly have no idea.

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If you liven it up with hardcore BDSM play. Mistresses spanking sissies. Straight crossdressers doing Abba and heterosexual transgender couples latin dancing with glorious sequins outfits on floats decorated like clouds ... then it might be a party worth going to. I mean, if the primary purpose is because you want to have fun, then it's just going to look like a LGBTQ pride party/parade.
That seems more like just a general sexuality pride parade... which sounds quite fun.

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One of which you were never barred from participating in in the first place.
I never really felt like I was.
 

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Happyninja42 said:
Many of us already do.
I'm aware, and I imagine those of us who do aren't the ones who moan about Pride.
Personally, I've never been. I'd like to, one day. I don't do too well in crowds, though.

wulf3n said:
Phasmal said:
Yes, for a moment, and then my mother reminded them that I only got to spend so much time on it because I was in hospital and had my head cut open and stitched up again.
That's what I mean. People should be reminded of these things, instead of acting like grabby little children.
Sure, but that's not going to stop people wanting the fun aspects. It's human nature.
Mm, yeah. But humans kinda suck, so we should bear that in mind. =P
 

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wulf3n said:
That seems more like just a general sexuality pride parade... which sounds quite fun.
And all my examples are still totally hetero. All of it. What's the point of a heterosexual day if it only accords arbitrary distinctions of heterosexuality? Is there going to be Southern belles and drill sergeants wandering around and telling various heterosexuals they're not welcome? Defeats the purpose don't you think?

At your average pride day event, you're bound to run into more than a few bears as well. Stocky men, rough men. With hairy chests in form fitting shirts to show off those delicious, rock-hard abs. Seems silly to forbid them, right?
 

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Phasmal said:
Mm, yeah. But humans kinda suck, so we should bear that in mind. =P
Haha, very much so :)

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And all my examples are still totally hetero. All of it.
Sans BDSM. That has no inherent orientation.

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What's the point of a heterosexual day if it only accords arbitrary distinctions of heterosexuality?
Depends on what you define as an arbitrary distinction.

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Is there going to be Southern belles and drill sergeants wandering around and telling various heterosexuals they're not welcome?
Why are they not welcome?

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Defeats the purpose don't you think?
What purpose?
 

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wulf3n said:
Why are they not welcome?
Well, if you read my post you basically whitewashed over whole groups of people for not beeing hetero enough. So I just assume heterosexual pride day is merely 'socially admissable sexual expression pride day' ...

What purpose?
Of having a heterosexual pride day if you just turn around and dismiss alternative expressions of it. It's not really heterosexual pride day anymore, is it?
 

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Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Well, if you red my post you basically whitewashed over whole segments of the heterosexual community. So I just assume heterosexual pride day is merely 'socially admissable sexual expression pride day' ...
As I saw it you provided a subset of examples not a definitive list. i.e. "Including but not limited to..."

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Of having a heterosexual pride day if you just turn around and dismiss alternative expressions of it. It's not really heterosexual pride day anymore, is it?
What dismissal?
 

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wulf3n said:
As I saw it you provided a subset of examples not a definitive list. i.e. "Including but not limited to..."
Which is what Pride days do now. They don't make arbitrary distinctions. Also, what exactly is 'definitive' heterosexuality?

What dismissal?
I gave you a list of heterosexual examples and you called them in a 'general sexuality pride day'. Also, how is a relationship between a mistress sexually attracted to dominating men, and vice versa, not heterosexual? I missed that part before. Maybe dominating women doesn't do it for them?
 

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Addendum_Forthcoming said:
wulf3n said:
As I saw it you provided a subset of examples not a definitive list. i.e. "Including but not limited to..."
Which is what Pride days do now. They don't make arbitrary distinctions.
And?

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I gave you a list of heterosexual acts
Not really, you gave a number of sexual acts that aren't inherently heterosexual.


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and you called in a 'general sexuality pride day'.
Yes, where the focus is sexuality in general, not ones orientation.


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Also, how is a relationship between a mistress sexually attracted to dominating men, and vice versa, not heterosexual? I missed that part before.

Maybe dominating women doesn't do it for them?
I assume you're referring to my BDSM comment, in which case BDSM doesn't not require the Master and the Slave to be of alternate genders. You can have a male sub and a male dom, and vice versa, as such BDSM is not inherently hetero.
 

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wulf3n said:
....your avatar...it....it disturbs me. I...don't know why. I've seen people with avatars on this forum that are gifs from a hentai where some crazy eyed alien woman literally eats the guy she was about to have sex with...and yet...your thing...I...I won't sleep tonight. It's going to follow me into my dreams

YOU'VE DESTROYED MY MIND WITH THAT ABOMINATION!
 

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wulf3n said:
And .... what's the point of a heterosexual pride day if it doesn't care to show heterosexuality?

Not really, you gave a number of sexual acts that aren't inherently heterosexual.
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I'm sorry, what dictionary definition are you making that basis on?

Here's me thinking heterosexuality simply meant being attracted to the opposite sex. I'll spend the night with anyone that takes my fancy and their own. I didn't stop to ponder my pansexuality, regardless of what sexual acts we got up to in the bedroom.


Yes, where the focus is sexuality in general, not ones orientation.
And that has to do with being heterosexual ... how? How does one's sexuality not dictate their criterion of heterosexuality, existent or not?


I assume you're referring to my BDSM comment, in which case BDSM doesn't not require the Master and the Slave to be of alternate genders. You can have a male sub and a male dom, and vice versa, as such BDSM is not inherently hetero.
And ... how does that stop mistresses pegging exclusively boytoy subs from being heterosexual? Surely straight mistresses are still straight and would be a fitting addition to any Straight Pride day? Maybe leading their subs by leash and collar? Or its inverse, for that matter.
 

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Happyninja42 said:
....your avatar...it....it disturbs me. I...don't know why.
Haha, I know right!

Happyninja42 said:
I've seen people with avatars on this forum that are gifs from a hentai where some crazy eyed alien woman literally eats the guy she was about to have sex with...and yet...your thing...I...I won't sleep tonight. It's going to follow me into my dreams

YOU'VE DESTROYED MY MIND WITH THAT ABOMINATION!
I apologise. I saw it on one of the facebook things where it's like "tag a mate who eats like this" and immediately thought "I must have this!". :p

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wulf3n said:
Which is what Pride days do now. They don't make arbitrary distinctions.
And?
Quoteception mishap?

Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Not really, you gave a number of sexual acts that aren't inherently heterosexual.
....

I'm sorry, what dictionary definition are you making that basis on?

Here's me thinking heterosexuality simply meant being attracted to the opposite sex. I'll spend the night with anyone that takes my fancy and mine theirs. I didn't stop to ponder my pansexuality, regardless of what sexual acts we got up to in the bedroom.
Sure, but when you include examples that don't automatically imply attraction to the opposite sex, heterosexuality goes out the window.


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Yes, where the focus is sexuality in general, not ones orientation.
And that has to do with being heterosexual ... how? How does one's sexuality not dictate their criterion of heterosexuality, existent or not?
It doesn't, hence the notion that it's no longer about heterosexuality, rather sexuality.

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I assume you're referring to my BDSM comment, in which case BDSM doesn't not require the Master and the Slave to be of alternate genders. You can have a male sub and a male dom, and vice versa, as such BDSM is not inherently hetero.
And ... how does that stop mistresses pegging exclusively boytoy subs from being heterosexual?
Heterosexuals may engage in BDSM, that does not imply all BDSM is heterosexual.
 

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wulf3n said:
Quoteception mishap?
Most likely ... let me get my spinning top and give it a whirl.

Sure, but when you include examples that don't automatically imply attraction to the opposite sex, heterosexuality goes out the window.
No it doesn't though. Heterosexual couples performing mock BDSM acts is a pretty clear example of heterosexuality. The straight crossdressers might be a bit questionable, but that doesn't stop drag queens and kings at Pride day events. I mean, we know straight crossdressers exist so maybe they deserve some recognition on het pride day, too?

I'm failing to get what you are actually going to show on heterosexual pride day. You made the argument that you wanted a fun party, but I gave you examples of heterosexual fun, of a myriad of expressions (which is the whole point of pride days to begin with). But if that doesn't make the cut, what does and why will it be as fun?


It doesn't, hence the notion that it's no longer about heterosexuality, rather sexuality.
Then what are you going to show, and will it still represent and make more visible diverse elements of heterosexuality? Surely being heterosexual is more important than how you be heterosexual on Het Pride Day? What better way to showcase that by showing concepts of what being heterosexual means to everybody heterosexual, and making it publicly visible?

Heterosexuals may engage in BDSM, that does not imply all BDSM is heterosexual.
And those heterosexual BDSM couplings then deserve recognition and additional visibility in the idea of heterosexual pride.
 

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Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Most likely ... let me get my spinning top and give it a whirl.
What does it say?

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Sure, but when you include examples that don't automatically imply attraction to the opposite sex, heterosexuality goes out the window.
No it doesn't though. Heterosexual couples performing mock BDSM acts is a pretty clear example of heterosexuality.
And homosexual couples performing mock BDSM acts are pretty clear examples of homosexuality. Hence BDSM is not defined by sexual orientation.

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The straight crossdressers might be a bit questionable, but that doesn't stop drag queens and kings at Pride day events. I mean, we know straight crossdressers exist so maybe they deserve some recognition on het pride day, too?
And would in a sexuality pride parade.

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I'm failing to get what you are actually going to show on heterosexual pride day. You made the argument that you wanted a fun party, but I gave you examples of heterosexual fun, of a myriad of expressions (which is the whole point of pride days to begin with). But if that doesn't make the cut, what does and why will it be as fun?
I wasn't after a heterosexual pride parade. A sexuality pride parade on the other hand...

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It doesn't, hence the notion that it's no longer about heterosexuality, rather sexuality.
Then what are you going to show, and will it still represent and make more visible diverse elements of heterosexuality?
What am I going to show? EVERYTHING :|

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Heterosexuals may engage in BDSM, that does not imply all BDSM is heterosexual.
And those heterosexual BDSM couplings then deserve recognition and additional visibility in the idea of heterosexual pride.
Not really, BDSM transcends sexual orientation.
 

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wulf3n said:
What does it say?
Not much ... it's still spinning.

And homosexual couples performing mock BDSM acts are pretty clear examples of homosexuality. Hence BDSM is not defined by sexual orientation.
Neither is drag inherently communicative of being gay. The point of a pride day is to show the diversity of its membership, and to be out and proud in your expression of sexuality and identity. Hence why showing diverse examples of heterosexuals being out and proud in how they express their heterosexuality is the best way to do it.

What else can you do?

And would in a sexuality pride parade.
Why can't they be out with their crossdressing and heterosexuality even if dressed in lolita fashion? Surely that's the point ... men dressing as lolita darlings and still be heterosexual. And want people to recognize crossdressing doesn't mean gay. That there's men out there that want to be pretty, and yet are still attracted to girls.

Seems like a perfect addition to any heterosexual pride day that actually makes arguments about what it means to be heterosexual. Headdresses, petticoats, jumper skirts and all.

I wasn't after a heterosexual pride parade. A sexuality pride parade on the other hand...
Ahh, well that I can get behind ... but I still don't see why a heterosexual pride day shouldn't involve people showing unconventional elements of it. Being proud of their diverse expressions of heterosexuality.

Not really, BDSM transcends sexual orientation.
There's also plenty of BDSM activities of unconventional ideas of heterosexuality. And recognition that it's still heterosexuality is what it means to be proud of being out with it.