Hindus Criticize Smite For "Trivializing" Their Religion

[Triforceformer]

Shiva's been in Final Fantasy for over twenty years. Has the Universal Society of Hinduism ever complained about that? No? What makes Smite so special then?

The shameless sexualization SMITE's rocking with Kila is probably a factor.

 

[chadachada123]

Woah now, I think you are living in a little bubble of ignorance here. Muslims do kill people for drawing Mohammed, they threaten to kill people just for thinking or suggesting drawing Mohammed. To support free speech and get Muslims off of their invincible high horse of "you can't insult our religion!", <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day>Draw Mohammed Day has been created.

If you want, I can show you many instances of Muslims being violent towards people that draw Mohammed, but it would require a good deal of searching and browsing that I don't feel like doing right now. Long story short, Muslims are incredibly violent towards people that draw Mohammed.

I really hope you are trolling here =|

To be fair, Islam as a whole doesn't say that it's offensive to depict Muhammad, and many old texts have depictions of him.

Edit: Sunni as a whole has a problem with Muhammad's depiction, while Shi'ite does not, as a whole, have a problem with it.

Either way, I'm pretty sure Sufis don't have much of a problem at all with the depiction, other than it being 'distasteful.' (The Wiki article doesn't specify for this sect)

Note that I could be incorrect about any of these three sects. I only know that the depiction of Muhammad isn't inherently sacrilegious according to at least one of the major sects, and certainly isn't worthy of the death penalty to them.

Edit: I was backwards. I have fixed where I was wrong, and more can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depiction_of_Muhammad

 

[Syzygy23]

Spoiler: Playable Jesus

Make it happen Hi-Rez.

Nail should be in his wrist, factually inaccurate. Otherwise that is the best thing I've seen all day.

Well, new evidence suggests that crucifictions have had the nails in the palm. They used a combination of rope and nails to keep the victim up.

The ropes would be tied around the wrists and ankles, and nails will be hammered through the palm and feet. That way if friends/family members tried to rescue the crucified victim by cutting the ropes, the victim would have a really big problem.

Good old fashioned security measure.

Anyway, OT: As much as I don't give a crap about religion and religion devotees, I wonder how, let's say: AMERICA, would reply if they included Jesus.

AMERICA wouldn't care.

Religious zealots livin in America might, though.

 

[Richardplex]

Saw this coming a mile away. Did think it was a bit odd for Hi Rez to include Hinduism along with dead religion's gods. Clearly, the only way to peacefully resolve this is to include Jesus as a hero.

No, they can't put Jesus in the game, he would be the biggest fucking overpowered mary sue. C'mon, he can battle-rez, duplicate anything he touches, and when shit hits the fan his dad is God, an even BIGGER mary sue than he is.

Yeah, he can battle rez.. 2 days later. Not much of an issue there. Judeo-Christian god would however be overpowered, the whole 'Omni-ALL THE THINGS' thing he has going on, though he didn't really do anything in the new testament, beyond the whole "good luck with that crucifixion bro" chat he had with Jesus. And duplicate everything he touches, really? Have you seen what those other gods can do?

 

[Mr.Squishy]

"Pastafarians criticize Smite for trivializing the flying spaghetti monster". Same thing, really.

 

[MortisLegio]

they better add santa claus in a suprise update during christmas.

Spoiler: How about this?

OT: I can see why they are offended. No one wants their beliefs to be "attacked" by anyone but I am currently indifferent on the topic.

 

[Torrasque]

Woah now, I think you are living in a little bubble of ignorance here. Muslims do kill people for drawing Mohammed, they threaten to kill people just for thinking or suggesting drawing Mohammed. To support free speech and get Muslims off of their invincible high horse of "you can't insult our religion!", <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day>Draw Mohammed Day has been created.

If you want, I can show you many instances of Muslims being violent towards people that draw Mohammed, but it would require a good deal of searching and browsing that I don't feel like doing right now. Long story short, Muslims are incredibly violent towards people that draw Mohammed.

I really hope you are trolling here =|

To be fair, Islam as a whole doesn't say that it's offensive to depict Muhammad, and many old texts have depictions of him.

Edit: Sunni as a whole has a problem with Muhammad's depiction, while Shi'ite does not, as a whole, have a problem with it.

Either way, I'm pretty sure Sufis don't have much of a problem at all with the depiction, other than it being 'distasteful.' (The Wiki article doesn't specify for this sect)

Note that I could be incorrect about any of these three sects. I only know that the depiction of Muhammad isn't inherently sacrilegious according to at least one of the major sects, and certainly isn't worthy of the death penalty to them.

Edit: I was backwards. I have fixed where I was wrong, and more can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depiction_of_Muhammad

Thats what always struck me as silly about Islam, is that there are several different factions (or groups?) of Islam, that are more or less completely different from each other. Every religion has many different sects/groups/followings, but Islam seems to have the largest different groups, and it is almost always the incredibly violent fundamentalist sect that gets depicted as the main/core following of Islam.

It would be like if Westboro Baptist Church was what most people thought of Christianity. Which would be hilarious imo.

I remember going to a Mosque sometime in highschool (gr 9 or 10?) as well as going to a Synagogue and Buddhist Temple, and the Mosque struck me as really nice, the people really quite polite. I don't remember much of what they said about the faith (the whole trip was quite boring really) but I didn't leave the Mosque thinking "WOW THOSE ISLAMIST FUNDAMENTALISTS ARE FUCKING CRAZY MAN".

 

[chadachada123]

Thats what always struck me as silly about Islam, is that there are several different factions (or groups?) of Islam, that are more or less completely different from each other. Every religion has many different sects/groups/followings, but Islam seems to have the largest different groups, and it is almost always the incredibly violent fundamentalist sect that gets depicted as the main/core following of Islam.

It would be like if Westboro Baptist Church was what most people thought of Christianity. Which would be hilarious imo.

I remember going to a Mosque sometime in highschool (gr 9 or 10?) as well as going to a Synagogue and Buddhist Temple, and the Mosque struck me as really nice, the people really quite polite. I don't remember much of what they said about the faith (the whole trip was quite boring really) but I didn't leave the Mosque thinking "WOW THOSE ISLAMIST FUNDAMENTALISTS ARE FUCKING CRAZY MAN".

I think part of it is that the murderous Christian assholes just aren't getting the same media coverage because it's mostly happening in Africa right now. Where people are being literally burned alive for being 'witches.' It's really sick stuff. But no one cares because, again, Africa.

Plus, there are some vastly different sects of Christianity. Mormonism is one of them, which believes that, somehow, Jesus was alive in the Americas and converted a bunch of Native Americans, or something. There's Jehovah's Witnesses, which are Biblical literists that don't believe in the Trinity crap and also believe in, to an extent, resurrection and not the traditional Hell. Catholics worship the Pope, while every other sect thinks that the Pope is NOT ordained by god to lead us.

The difference between Catholicism and Protestantism is very much the same as the difference between Sunni and Shi'ite Islam. The main difference is that Protestants no longer kill tons of Catholics all of the time.

 

[unacomn]

Spoiler: Playable Jesus

Make it happen Hi-Rez.

I'm a Christian and I fully approve of this image

OT: Not surprised, the first thing I though when I heard the concept for Smite was "o boy if they include any gods from religions that people actually still practice there is going to be trouble"

Jesus, Moses and John the Baptist tag-team combo!

I would also like Zamolxe in there somewhere.

 

[orangeban]

The upset is understandable and I don't mock or scorn them for it. I mean, I would be offended if it was my sacred religious deity. And it comes of as very... unfortunate the way the roster goes - Dead, Dead, Dead, Dead, HINDUISM!, Dead, Dead, Dead etc. etc.

I know some people get all worked up and the developers freedom of speech and such, but they have to realise that freedom of speech doesn't mean you are immune to the conventions of common decency and tact.

 

[Mister K]

Oversimplification? *****, please! No game can oversimplify any religion that those, which already exist and have crosses and OURE LAWRED JAYSUS CHROYST.

 

[gideonkain]

It does raise the question, why don't we see more Jesus Archtypes in video games?

 

[Skootz]

Hi-Rez better add Muhammad as a stealth character. Also, "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"

Just saying.

 

[Professor Plum]

Even Tomb Raider 3 (or one of the early ones) had Shiva has multiple small 'bosses' that you had to kill many times. I didn't see anyone complaining about that.

 

[Stripes]

All these gaming studious being hip and gritty to make a controversy by insulting a group that won't hit back becomes somewhat tiresome. I would praise them if them made Mohamed a player character but of course that means they might have to risk their life. Like all playground bullies they can dish it out, but run away from anything that they stand a real risk with.

Why would you praise someone for maing a muhhamed character?

Currently they offending other peoples religions deliberately to create controversy to get themselves free advertising. They are doing that at no risk to themselves, but if they use Mohamed they would be putting their lives in danger. They could then make a legitimate case that its about freedom of expression, but as it they are just making a cheap buck out of insulting someone who won't punch back.

Dont you think your being a bit extreme here? Muslims dont kill people for drawing muhhamed, on the whole at least, no more than christians kill homosexuals. Considering he has no image and is purely a religious character I cant see a reaosn to draw him other than to piss off muslims, you can defend it with free speech but it wouldnt make you less of a scumbag for deliberatively being shocking and offensive which is also pretty cowardly and childish.

Woah now, I think you are living in a little bubble of ignorance here. Muslims do kill people for drawing Mohammed, they threaten to kill people just for thinking or suggesting drawing Mohammed. To support free speech and get Muslims off of their invincible high horse of "you can't insult our religion!", <url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day>Draw Mohammed Day has been created.

If you want, I can show you many instances of Muslims being violent towards people that draw Mohammed, but it would require a good deal of searching and browsing that I don't feel like doing right now. Long story short, Muslims are incredibly violent towards people that draw Mohammed.

I really hope you are trolling here =|

You cant say all muslims are violent because its a lie brought about by ignorance of a huge group. Draw muhhamed day wasnt started to 'fight the muslim menace' it was started to piss them off by people who simply didnt like them in general for whatever reason. Should we do the same for other groups? How about we have a day where we deface images of Christ or we where 'novelty' skull caps, just to take the piss? Im sure they would get offended as well so they deserve it for not enjoying being purposefully insulted, some might even have an extreme backlash giving us proof they are all universally violent. Mocking people so broadly for the actions of such a narrow gruop is immensely childish, its not some heroic or brave fight its cowardly. If you have an issue with some one say it, be explicit. If you have any conviction you would do more than draw a picture and claim yourself a rebel.

 

[Albino Boo]

All these gaming studious being hip and gritty to make a controversy by insulting a group that won't hit back becomes somewhat tiresome. I would praise them if them made Mohamed a player character but of course that means they might have to risk their life. Like all playground bullies they can dish it out, but run away from anything that they stand a real risk with.

Why would you praise someone for maing a muhhamed character?

Currently they offending other peoples religions deliberately to create controversy to get themselves free advertising. They are doing that at no risk to themselves, but if they use Mohamed they would be putting their lives in danger. They could then make a legitimate case that its about freedom of expression, but as it they are just making a cheap buck out of insulting someone who won't punch back.

Dont you think your being a bit extreme here? Muslims dont kill people for drawing muhhamed, on the whole at least, no more than christians kill homosexuals. Considering he has no image and is purely a religious character I cant see a reaosn to draw him other than to piss off muslims, you can defend it with free speech but it wouldnt make you less of a scumbag for deliberatively being shocking and offensive which is also pretty cowardly and childish.

Tell that to Salman Rushdie who spent years of his life under police guard after writing the satanic verses. The Iranian government has passed a death sentence on him and is still offering a bounty on his death, for the crime of writing a book with Mohamed in it. When did the last Christian suicide bomber blow themselves up on the London tube killing 57 people or when did the last Hindu crash a plane into buildings killing 4000. If you wont talk about homosexuals, how about Lutfur Rahman in Mayor of Tower Hamlets in London. His supporters put posters declaring that Tower Hamlets was a gay free zone and created an intimidatory atmosphere to such an extent that a gay couple, that I work with, moved half way across London to feel safe. Militant Islam is real and they do kill people.

Why is it ok to piss off Hindus, Buddhists and Christians but not Muslims? Hi Res are using images from their religions without fear of reprisal. Hi Res are playground bullies picking on reglions that wont fight back but running away from any risk to themselves. If they used Mohamed as well as the other religions they would be taking a brave stand for freedom of expression but as it they are just taking cheap shots at those that wont fight back.

 

[Skootz]

Or maybe they just don't want their building letter-bombed?

 

[Avalanche91]

Can you imagine the shitstorm once they include Jesus and Mohammed? Really, I would love to see that unfold.