So I haven't played it, but I have read up on the history of the game's universe (what little I could find) and basically N Korea fights a war with S Korea, wins and then launches a successful invasion of the USA? I know its just a game, but do highly impossible/impossible scenarios kill a games atmosphere for anyone else? I had a hard time with COD:MWII but let it slip do to the story campaign being fun. But Korea successfully invades America? I think including reserves the American Military could mobilize more people than Korea has, and even if the American government was in shambles, I think, with invasion the Military structure would take command. And I do believe that non gun owners and foreigners totally miss and dismiss the number of gun owning Americans. Admiral Yamamoto famously said "You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a man with a rifle behind every blade of grass."
Just to let you know that the invasion came after America was at rock bottom economically and Korea had become united under some crazy facist guy and had conquered a lot of the Pacific Rim, including Japan. So it's not just 'Korea united, took over America'. It would have been the combined might of quite a few countries against a rock bottom America.
But yeah, ridiculous, everyone knows the big US of A will be the last to hit rock bottom in today's economy.
Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Why the fuck is my captcha upside-down? How am I supposed to type this? Do I type the letters in reverse, or just type the upside-down word as if it were rightside-up?
Oh my word, I laughed so much of that, mainly because it flowed on so perfectly from your previous ranty point. It's like you were so committed to hating on your captcha, sorry I just found it funny .
Look, Homefront's backstory was lame because they tried to sell it as plausible, but if you actually know what you're talking about the details show a painful lack of awareness of international politics or even basic economics.
You wanna give me a game with space ninjas carrying laser swords, that's cool. You wanna give me a plausible and thought provoking game, that's cool too. A mediocre shooter with an embarrassing attempt to make the most incompetent nation in the world into a legitimate threat to South Korea, let alone overseas nations, I'm not buying that. Sorry.
the entire concept was just laughable. I mean i understand tehm not wanting to rip off MW2, but they did, and with all the class and subtly of a bull in a china-shop. it was like a hideous amalgamation of MW2 and Red Dawn. Except without the campiness. This was just PAINFUL. Outrageously cliched and boring.
Now I know that there isn't anything wrong with Cliches and they're hard to avoid. In fact a good movie can be chock-full of cliche's and if its presented well then NO ONE will care! But Homefront couldn't even do that properly. So in the end it was just an ugly game with a bored, implausible premise.
Tell you what, let's try this out. You invade America in a WWI biplane, and I'll get some kids from a rural Oregon town to shoot at you with their airsoft guns. We'll see how it goes.
This was discussed to death before Homefront came out. I'm hoenstly surprised to see it again, considering nobody gave two shits about Homefront as it was thoroughly mediocre.
But yes, Homefront's plot is ridiculous and they really shouldn't have branded it as "shockingly plausible". People tolerate fiction so long as your not trying to say that these ridiculous scenarios could actually happen in any logical and realistic world.
that was kinda there plan, they took a faction to say "this couldent happen but here what would if they could. They never sed "we should fear the koreans"
Just to let you know that the invasion came after America was at rock bottom economically and Korea had become united under some crazy facist guy and had conquered a lot of the Pacific Rim, including Japan. So it's not just 'Korea united, took over America'. It would have been the combined might of quite a few countries against a rock bottom America.
But yeah, ridiculous, everyone knows the big US of A will be the last to hit rock bottom in today's economy.
So it's less 'How in the hell did NK manage to conquer the USA?', and more 'How in the hell did NK manage to conquer Asia?'. Did Dzjenghis Khan reincarnate as Kim Jong Un?
Meanwhile N Korea takes most of Eastern and Southern Asia through a cross between Blitzkrieg and diplomacy with the blown up nations, eventually getting Japan's tech.
My guess is that because they wanted to add a whole lot of near-propaganda drivel, with the enemy rounding up Americans and shoving them into mass graves for no apparent reason, they had to choose a country that wouldn't create a shitstorm.
So, Russia and China were out of the question. No one likes North Korea, so there you go.
It's just fiction, and it's not supposed to be anything BUT fiction. It's not like they're trying to warn us about an invasion, they were just trying to tell a story, nothing more.
The advertising for the game made a massive fuss about how "chillingly realistic" it was.
They actually did get some scientist to say the EMP would work like that, it was a terrible threat to the US and he hoped that the game would draw attention to the problem and get the US government to spend massive amounts of money on it.
Other than that, it'd just be another forgettable action game nobody cared about.
But Korea successfully invades America? I think including reserves the American Military could mobilize more people than Korea has, and even if the American government was in shambles, I think, with invasion the Military structure would take command.
Historically, the USA used to be fairly complacent in times of peace and lax in terms of its own security.
For example, before the state of fear that we currently live in, the USA was so confident of its own superiority that throughout the 1990s its defences were surprisingly thin.
9/11 for example...
On the 11th September 2001, guess how many fighter jets were on station to protect the US mainland... 500, 1000, 20000?
No, 14, and only 6 were on the Eastern seaboard, and the closest pair of them to NY were 150 miles away! At the point of the impact of the first tower, the jets had been in the air for 20 minutes, but were still 50 miles out.
I guess what I'm saying is that it is possible that at one point a surprise invasion like this would have been sucessful.
However, I think you are right that nowadays it is fairly impossible. The USA has learned what happens when they let their guard down, and they're not likely to allow it to happen again.
Just to let you know that the invasion came after America was at rock bottom economically and Korea had become united under some crazy facist guy and had conquered a lot of the Pacific Rim, including Japan. So it's not just 'Korea united, took over America'. It would have been the combined might of quite a few countries against a rock bottom America.
But yeah, ridiculous, everyone knows the big US of A will be the last to hit rock bottom in today's economy.
So it's less 'How in the hell did NK manage to conquer the USA?', and more 'How in the hell did NK manage to conquer Asia?'. Did Dzjenghis Khan reincarnate as Kim Jong Un?
Historically, the USA used to be fairly complacent in times of peace and lax in terms of its own security.
For example, before the state of fear that we currently live in, the USA was so confident of its own superiority that throughout the 1990s its defences were surprisingly thin.
9/11 for example...
On the 11th September 2001, guess how many fighter jets were on station to protect the US mainland... 500, 1000, 20000?
No, 14, and only 6 were on the Eastern seaboard, and the closest pair of them to NY were 150 miles away! At the point of the impact of the first tower, the jets had been in the air for 20 minutes, but were still 50 miles out.
I guess what I'm saying is that it is possible that at one point a surprise invasion like this would have been sucessful.
However, I think you are right that nowadays it is fairly impossible. The USA has learned what happens when they let their guard down, and they're not likely to allow it to happen again.
A surprise attack using commercial planes which are always flying around the US. Very different from a surprise invasion. An invasion is a massive logistical exercise, using resources that don't look civilain. It also cannot be done solely, or even mostly, via the air, it'd take a massive navy, and the US also has one of those.
Also, isn't part of the backstory that the US withdrew its overseas forces, so there would be much more defending the contiguous United States.
And then, the US still has it's powerful second strike capability, such as a SSBN fleet lurking somewhere in the oceans of the world.
Historically, the USA used to be fairly complacent in times of peace and lax in terms of its own security.
For example, before the state of fear that we currently live in, the USA was so confident of its own superiority that throughout the 1990s its defences were surprisingly thin.
9/11 for example...
On the 11th September 2001, guess how many fighter jets were on station to protect the US mainland... 500, 1000, 20000?
No, 14, and only 6 were on the Eastern seaboard, and the closest pair of them to NY were 150 miles away! At the point of the impact of the first tower, the jets had been in the air for 20 minutes, but were still 50 miles out.
I guess what I'm saying is that it is possible that at one point a surprise invasion like this would have been sucessful.
However, I think you are right that nowadays it is fairly impossible. The USA has learned what happens when they let their guard down, and they're not likely to allow it to happen again.
A surprise attack using commercial planes which are always flying around the US. Very different from a surprise invasion. An invasion is a massive logistical exercise, using resources that don't look civilain. It also cannot be done solely, or even mostly, via the air, it'd take a massive navy, and the US also has one of those.
Also, isn't part of the backstory that the US withdrew its overseas forces, so there would be much more defending the contiguous United States.
And then, the US still has it's powerful second strike capability, such as a SSBN fleet lurking somewhere in the oceans of the world.
Ironically, as I type this, I have just discovered they're making a remake of Red Dawn.
With Koreans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn_(2011_film)
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