Homosexual Representation

[sneakypenguin]

Your hatred of homosexuality makes you a homophobe, all we're trying to do is get to the root of your hatred. Honestly, hatred for anything is not a healthy emotion. The worst thing that man can do is hate his fellow man, no matter what the reason. I don't care for terrorists, but I don't hate them. I don't agree with Christians, but I don't hate them. Hell, I think you're a pigheaded, ignorant bigot, but I don't hate you. You're misguided, that's for sure, but you're still a person and deserve my compassion.

I still think you cherry pick the bible for your own purposes. How about Mark 10:11-12 "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her; and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery." Are divorcees all going to hell? Jesus said so in the Gospel of Mark.

Or maybe James 4:17 "Those who know the good they ought to do and do not do it, sin." According to the words of Jesus in this book we're all going to hell since we don't do good, though we know we should. I do good deeds, but I know I could do more, and in knowing that I am sinning, thus I'm going to hell. Damn, Jesus was a strict mamajama wasn't he?

All I'm saying is you have to stop selectively choosing what is and is not relevant today. Either it's all relevant or none of it is relevant. So, which is it? Are 50% of western adults doomed to an eternity in hell for for getting a divorce? Are nearly all of us doomed for not doing the good we know we could do? Or, maybe we'll all be fine since we're good people in our hearts.

Well, at least I'm a good person in my heart. You're a hate-monger and a hypocrite and will most likely burn in hell. Luckily, hell is a figment of your imagination...so, you'll be fine.

Christianity is a faith based belief not works, God knows we sin, thats the reason for the cross(to be an atonement for our shortfallings) So you can sin and still go to heaven, as long as you have placed your faith in Christ (sorry to preach but just saying it's not works based) So no if you divorce your not going to hell, its the non acceptance of Christ that sends you to hell. So your right in saying those two things you picked out are sin but misinformed as to what sends people to hell. We all sin and as such all deserve hell but we live under grace and as such have a way out of hell.

As for your first paragraph I should reiterate that I don't hate gays, I just disagree with their lifestyle. If you feel that makes me a bigoted homophoic person so be it, nothing I say could change your mind on that.

Lol I dont' think i've worded this clearly.

 

[Lordbolt118]

As a gay person myself, I would honestly like to see a bit more representation in the media. I feel that including something small, like changing a story from 'Bob was cheating on his wife' to 'Bob was cheating on his husband' or whatever could make a difference. I figure it would have to be something subtle like that, but it could serve to encourage homosexuality as being seen as more of a normal thing, than as some esoteric characteristic which automatically causes a high pitched voice and love of the colour pink!

 

[cathou]

Yes God does love homosexuals. But, you can disagree/hate the sin without a hatred for the individual. Because you forbid you child from something and have a punishment in store if they do said action does not make you hate them. Same with God and homosexuality, stealing, lying, etc. He hates the sin but loves the individual

God sake that i hate this shitty argument. God love the sinner but hate the sin. Excuse me, but that something religious people come up with to be able to forget that they are talking about humans when they condemn homosexuality. God love the sinner but hate the sin. Have you though about it for 2 minutes ? That's mean that God love me, but dont like the way i live. A sinner must redeem and have the desire to change and not sin again to be saved (according to catholics, but i'm pretty sure it's the same in most religions) because if you steal, and redeem yourself, god want to to not steal again, but homosexuality is something that you live at every moment of your life. Then they say, not it's not the fact that you are homosexual, it's each time youact homosexual, like having sex, kiss, holding hands etc... so i must either pretend i love a guy and marry him, or live my entire life alone because if i fall in love with another girl, and that i want to do the basic couple relationship, i willingly sin again. So i ended up homosexual for a reason that i do not understand, but god love me. and to show me his love he asked me to suffer of lonelyness for my entire life. So that way i will enjoy a thrilling afterlife by his side. In the real world that's comportement is called being sadistic.

 

[Sparrow]

This reminds me of the very gay man from GTA 4 what was his name Darko?

Florian Cravic, or as he prefers to be called now, Bernie.

 

[LockHeart]

Am I the only one who finds Torchwood and all of its characters completely unlikeable?

probably. here in england it's a crime to speak against doctor who or any spin off show they produce.
punishable by being publicly proved wrong :hawhawhaw:

Don't get me wrong, I love Dr Who, but I just find

rat boy, pig girl, immensely unlikeable asian girl and Captain Jack

immensely irritating.

Dr Who is awesome though

 

[Evertw]

This reminds me of the very gay man from GTA 4 what was his name Darko?

Wasn't it French Tom, or Florian/Bernie?

 

[Strong Intelligent]

Homosexuality is generally, to do with genetics.

Basically, if a Male gets too little testostrone, the brain gets confused and thinks of the body as a Woman. This is why they begin doing stereotypically feminine things, leading to the Gay stereotype.

Now, I'm not gay, and I don't know any Gay people, but I do support Gay rights, marraige, and the works. The media take the prime examples of things they know, and blow it out of proportion.

And the reason the games industry doesn't do this, is because they think everybody follows the media.

 

[Strong Intelligent]

Am I the only one who finds Torchwood and all of its characters completely unlikeable?

probably. here in england it's a crime to speak against doctor who or any spin off show they produce.
punishable by being publicly proved wrong :hawhawhaw:

Unless it's Sarah Jane Adventures.

While I'm on the topic: I believe Sarah Jane was a closet lesbian.

 

[Retoru]

Christianity is a faith based belief not works, God knows we sin, thats the reason for the cross(to be an atonement for our shortfallings) So you can sin and still go to heaven, as long as you have placed your faith in Christ (sorry to preach but just saying it's not works based) So no if you divorce your not going to hell, its the non acceptance of Christ that sends you to hell. So your right in saying those two things you picked out are sin but misinformed as to what sends people to hell. We all sin and as such all deserve hell but we live under grace and as such have a way out of hell.

Ah, finally we get to the meat and bones of the argument. I love this line of reasoning and I'm so glad you brought it up. Now you've allowed me to say that under your own beliefs I can go out and kill people, mutilate their corpses, rape them anally before they die(and again after they die), etc, etc...but, as long as I accept Jesus as my personal savior afterward and get "saved" that I'll be able to go to heaven.

But, if I'm a gay man and I engage in consensual sex with my partner and remain monogamous and faithful I'll still burn in hell for all eternity because I was an abomination. Or, can I get a "get outta jail free" card if I accept Jesus and become "saved" at the moment before my death?

See how this works? The more you attempt to justify your bigotry the more I'm able to use your own words to prove you're ignorant and a hypocrite.

 

[Ultimathul]

You know what? if we stop alienating gay people it would be more widely accepted. but now its only weird gay people you see on tv. whose behaviour is so over the top "Gay" that my brain wants to be ejected through the back of my head. My personal opinion on gay people: Its just not natural to me. there you have it gentlemen.

 

[Sevre]

In a lot of games sexual orientation isn't even brought into it,it's just assumed. Like they assumed Samus was male. Shock and horror.

 

[sneakypenguin]

Christianity is a faith based belief not works, God knows we sin, thats the reason for the cross(to be an atonement for our shortfallings) So you can sin and still go to heaven, as long as you have placed your faith in Christ (sorry to preach but just saying it's not works based) So no if you divorce your not going to hell, its the non acceptance of Christ that sends you to hell. So your right in saying those two things you picked out are sin but misinformed as to what sends people to hell. We all sin and as such all deserve hell but we live under grace and as such have a way out of hell.

Ah, finally we get to the meat and bones of the argument. I love this line of reasoning and I'm so glad you brought it up. Now you've allowed me to say that under your own beliefs I can go out and kill people, mutilate their corpses, rape them anally before they die(and again after they die), etc, etc...but, as long as I accept Jesus as my personal savior afterward and get "saved" that I'll be able to go to heaven.

But, if I'm a gay man and I engage in consensual sex with my partner and remain monogamous and faithful I'll still burn in hell for all eternity because I was an abomination. Or, can I get a "get outta jail free" card if I accept Jesus and become "saved" at the moment before my death?

See how this works? The more you attempt to justify your bigotry the more I'm able to use your own words to prove you're ignorant and a hypocrite.

*Sigh, I really should have clarified, salvation is also a matter of repentance, its not a get out of jail free card. If your truly saved you won't go out and purposefully kill people or steal etc. The new creature in Christ verse deals with that issue pretty good. If you say, wait till the end of life to get "saved" chances are you are not repentant of sins or really placing faith in Christ.

Also if your a child of God and you continually live in sin God will judge you accordingly.
David after committing adultery with Bathsheba had his son with her die. This isn't to say that's always the punishment but that if your one of Gods you will not be allowed to live in sin scott free.

So while yes you can "turn my words against me" in some attempt to discredit a belief, it really just comes across as someone who is contrarian just for the sake of argument, brought about by lack of understanding of a religion.

*not meant as an attack but just an observation.

 

[Kuliani]

Christianity is a faith based belief not works, God knows we sin, thats the reason for the cross(to be an atonement for our shortfallings) So you can sin and still go to heaven, as long as you have placed your faith in Christ (sorry to preach but just saying it's not works based) So no if you divorce your not going to hell, its the non acceptance of Christ that sends you to hell. So your right in saying those two things you picked out are sin but misinformed as to what sends people to hell. We all sin and as such all deserve hell but we live under grace and as such have a way out of hell.

Ah, finally we get to the meat and bones of the argument. I love this line of reasoning and I'm so glad you brought it up. Now you've allowed me to say that under your own beliefs I can go out and kill people, mutilate their corpses, rape them anally before they die(and again after they die), etc, etc...but, as long as I accept Jesus as my personal savior afterward and get "saved" that I'll be able to go to heaven.

But, if I'm a gay man and I engage in consensual sex with my partner and remain monogamous and faithful I'll still burn in hell for all eternity because I was an abomination. Or, can I get a "get outta jail free" card if I accept Jesus and become "saved" at the moment before my death?

See how this works? The more you attempt to justify your bigotry the more I'm able to use your own words to prove you're ignorant and a hypocrite.

From my understanding, the Christian God loves all of man unconditionally. Due to his unending love, those that have committed a Christian sin can confess their sins and repent accordingly. They will then be forgiven for those sins and are then free of sin again. The whole idea is to get into Heaven afterwards, and you need to be free of sins to accomplish that. So, that's the punishment. If you are "sorry", you go to Heaven, and if you aren't, then you go to Hell.

The point is that it *doesn't matter* what sin it is.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

^ Agreed, We all know a huge majority of games either don't even have a potential partner for the main character, or it's a flimsy plot device so you have a reason to get to the end of a level.

If there's no partner in the game, what's to say the main character is not gay/ bisexual/ transgender or just a furry into bondage? The only thing not stating the character's preferences would be a lack of stereotypes.

Unless Super Metroid would have hugely improved by the helmet coming off at the start and Samus stating homosexuality, then letting you start the game? (Note avoidance of ancient spoiler)

 

[Xbowhyena]

Yes, Homo does means single, but that is the slang use of the term.

 

[LysanderBlack]

Army of Two featured two homosexual mercenaries I believe. They were pretty normal I think.

This was never stated, nor was it implied. People came to that conclusion through subtext alone, so it doesn't really count.

Army of Two featured two homosexual mercenaries I believe. They were pretty normal I think.

That was more of an implied thing, and I would hardly call them normal.

Successful Troll is Successful.

Also, this particular issue is completely subjective, though I like to take what I call the "Bill of Rights" approach to this issue. The Bill of Rights applies to all Americans regardless of race, religion, colour, etc. As far as I'm concerned, there is no good reason this shouldn't extend to sexual preference as well.

Also, for the record, I'm Canadian.