Homosexuality in ME3

[Asuka Soryu]

This subject sure gets a lot of attention. Why do people care so much about one programed image "dating" another image, because they resemble two of the same gender?

 

[WanderingFool]

I felt the ME2 romance was just "meh". Really took no effert beyond completing the loyalty mission and talking to them before the Omega Relay. However, I have one male shepard thats loved Liara and One Female shepard that fell for Thane... I think she has a thing for the terminal ill assassin with a heart of gold type...

 

[Gatx]

From memory, the biggest complaint people had was that their Shepard might be "accidentally" homosexual.
That is, the player might inadvertently click dialogue options "a bit too friendly" and spark a love interest where it's not wanted.

I can kind of see the accidental thing actually hapening, sort of. Like with the Jacob dialogue options for Femshep. I click a couple of what I thought were small talk options and she just throws herself at him. Man, Femshep, did not think you were that kind of girl. Though fearing accidental homosexuality specifically as opposed to accidental romance/flirtation (for RPers) is less of a legitimate reason.

 

[Bigeyez]

It's an option. So who cares? Why such an uproar over something thats OPTIONAL. God forbid people who think differently get to enjoy a game the way they want to play it.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

I don't think you can prove the first point, otherwise they would have tried to feature elements of it in the second one, which they didn't (unless someone CAN provide evidence they've hinted at it).

Don't ask me for a link (don't have one on hand) but as I recall the developers (ie Bioware) has stated that they intended Shep to have all romance options from the start, but couldn't because the Underpants Model who MaleShep is based on refused to have anything "gay" associated with him.

They tried again in ME2, but hit the same wall because they needed the guy to come back for ME3.

Now that ME3 is here, they no longer have to keep Mr. Underpants happy, so they can now provide the options that they always intended to.

IF you need a link, Google it.

Oh, and OT:

To summarize my usual rant on this: this gives the player more Freedom. Freedom in games is Good. People need to stop bitching about this already - it's a good thing to have more options in a game.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

ohhh boy..here we go...

ok as you can figure this is inspried by that little debarcle going on the with Bioware writer..even though apaerently shes got nothing to do with ME3..but thats not the point

now Ill say I know VERY LITTLE about ME3 and i'd actually like to keep it that way [/B] (and yes it seems odd that Im doing an ME3 thread..but anyway), I do know (obviously) that shepard can come out of the closet

so heres what I think

I dont think its really an issue

1. because it was intended from ME1 but obviously they cut it out [/B]

2. you can fuck Aliens...[/B] seriously, take a look at garrus, he's a nice guy but he looks like a velocipator cross with a xenomorph..and femshep can totally get it on with that. Not only Garrus but femsehp can get it on with Liara, oh SURE she's not "technically" female but lets not play around here, thats just Bioware dancing around the issue (and what about kelly chambers? oh right never mind her..move along)

so my point with that is why not? lets make things "eaqual" lets not play around, gay relationships exist, lets not pretend they dont


3. ROLE PLAYING [/B]

and this one I cant stress enough, it seems easy to forget that underneith everything ,ME was originally a role playing game

and there is no "canon"

So that means that YOU decide what shepard is like...My femshep has no interest in Aliens, what so ever, just because the game gives me the option does NOT make it true, she's not going to screw Garrus and she never will or even consider screwing Garrus, or ashley or Liara

so from that as far as Im concerned my Femshep is straight

just like now maleshep and be as straight and gay as YOU want

and thats my opinion..whats yours? (god forbid)

its pandering. Shepard isn't gay

 

[BanZeus]

I don't really give a damn about the homosexual option as long as you can't just easily trip into a relationship with your bro (and this goes with any romance period - I had this problem in ME2. I thought a dialogue option was just me being nice. lolnope)

Seriously, make it harder to romance people. So you actually have to TRY instead of you're talking to someone and suddenly you're in their pants.

thats my opinion as well. from dragon age to mass effect.. huh what do you mean im in a relationship with them and have to choose? since when?

I don't see how you could accidentally get into a relationship in either of the Dragon Age games, maybe you're thinking of Dragon Warrior.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButThouMust

 

[RoBi3.0]

I have yet to convince anyone in Mass Effect to sleep with my Shepard. It is a good thing I am married in RL or I would start to seriously doubt my abilities to have a sexual relationship with another human.

Anyways, I think that my Shepard is going to be so hard up for a lay that they are going to sleep with anyone or thing, so homosexual relationships should be interesting.

 

[Darkmantle]

I never understood what made this a big deal in the first place. The romantic relationships never seemed like a make or break feature. I'm happy that this is now an option but did it need a big announcement?

I don't think it was a big announcement, it was a little mention then people went APE-SHIT

 

[tlgAlaska]

I want a gay Shepard, but only in combination with a renegade dialog option somewhere in the game where he says:
"It's payback time! I'm gonna f*ck these Reapers in the a**!" Awkward silence... "Figuratively speaking..."
"... of course, Shepard."
"... I should go."

 

[Tanner The Monotone]

That awkward moment when the giant lizard man comes on to you......the thought scares me.

 

[BanZeus]

That awkward moment when the giant lizard man comes on to you......the thought scares me.

Why, don't they have towels in the future?

Seriously though, would it be better if it was a giant lizard woman?

 

[Tanner The Monotone]

That awkward moment when the giant lizard man comes on to you......the thought scares me.

Why, don't they have towels in the future?

Clothes that dry you when you get wet?

Seriously though, would it be better if it was a giant lizard woman?

Probably not. Rejection would probably end with my death either way.

 

[Zhukov]

That awkward moment when the giant lizard man comes on to you......the thought scares me.

"Shepard."

...

"Wrex."

 

[RatRace123]

Did you say homosexuality in Mass Effect? But Male Shepard came bursting out of that closet way back in the first game. I believe the customary phrase is, "I'll just leave this here..."

Huh, I never saw that scene, though I did know that the remnants of homosexual romance options were still in the coding of the game. I just thought they were limited to the sex scene (where Male shep gets the fastest gender reassignment surgery ever).

And yeah, I agree with the OP. It's not a big deal, especially because they were supposed to be in the first game and some of the conversations you can have with Ash and Kaiden as a Shepard of their same sex still seems very ho-yay filled. Not to mention on Horizon in the sequel, they seem to act like jilted lovers regardless of whether you romanced them or not.

So, yeah I don't think Shepard being homosexual is that big of an issue, and it wouldn't surprise me if Ash/Kaiden were homosexual romances in the third game, for the reason I listed above.

 

[Herman Hedning's mace]

I don't see what the big deal is. I mean it's not like Bioware will force you to leave Liara for
James Vega for example. But i guess that some people still can't handle TEH GAYS.

 

[Rheinmetall]

I played in Mass Effect 2 as a female Shepard and for the whole play I was obssessed with Miranda, but nothing happened between the two of us.

In general I believe that the freedom to have gay-lesbian relations in games like The Sims, or Fable, or lately in Mass Effect and Dragon Origins serves mostly one purpose: to give to male gamers the satisfaction of creating "lesbian shows" into their play and be aroused by that. Of course this freedom gives the opportunity to real gay- lesbian players to express themselves, but basically this feature is made for the first category. Kill two birds with one stone. EA is not any amateurs in this business...

 

[Setrus]

I agree with OP.
RPG's are ROLEPLAYING games, which means you can roleplay whatever you want, as such the developer is SUPPOSED to offer options. Those that feel insulted about Bioware offering homosexuality are probably the same (or at least the same type of people) who feel insulted about the game offering action or plot-focused gameplay, styles/options they won't actually pick, and as such won't affect them.