Homosexuality in ME3

[Zen Toombs]

Seriously, make it harder to romance people. So you actually have to TRY instead of you're talking to someone and suddenly you're in their pants.

It's not like you can have sex on accident.

It's not like you fell into her. And out of her... And back into her... again.

OT: I don't mind it, and in fact fully embrace the homosexuality/bisexuality made available in Mass Effect 3. I see no reason that sexuality should be excluded from the EVERYTHING ELSE you can change about Shepard.

However, I don't want it shoved down anyone's throat - I didn't like how in Mass Effect 2 you just stumbled into relationships (although with Jack it kindof made sense, and reminded me of an ex of mine), or in Mass Effect 1 where if you started down the path of romance with someone and then never spoke to them again, the game assumed you were having a secret tryst. [small]that was annoying....[/small]

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

It doesn't bother me not only because there's nothing wrong with being gay but also that I see my Shepard as my own character and some other persons Shepard as completely separate. I think the people complaining are under the illusion that their Shepard is 'canon' or something.

 

[Beliyal]

its pandering. Shepard isn't gay

Really? Quote from Mass Effect wiki:

At some point in the game's development, it was also possible for a female Shepard to romance Ashley Williams or a male Shepard to romance Kaidan Alenko. This was later removed, although the voiced conversations for them remain in the game.

One person here already linked this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3HaIk0lnQE] video, too.

Thing is, there is no canon Shepard. Originally, he/she could be heterosexual or homosexual, but I believe they removed the homosexual option to avoid controversy and attacks (they were attacked by Fox News anyway, for putting in naked pixel people; imagine what would have happened if there were two naked pixel men). As witnessed by the dialogue that remained in the game even after they cut it out, Shepard was supposed to be either straight or gay, depending on how you want to play him/her. It was not removed because they wanted to conclude that he/she is not gay, but because our society still has issues with seeing two men together.

Your Shepard can be whatever you want him/her to be (see? There's no even canon gender). I have three different Shepards for now, maybe I'll make more of them, and although I'm not gay, I don't think that putting the gay option is pandering. In a game that lets you choose almost everything about the character, it's a bit retarded that it doesn't let you choose whether you'll be straight or gay. And they fixed that and I'm glad they did.

Romances (both kind) are there as a form of fanservice to female players. Biowhore games have tons of female fans.

Nice generalizing you got there.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

It doesn't matter that much to me.

As long as the game isn't trying to make my Shepard gay, then I don't have any problems.

That awkward moment when the giant lizard man comes on to you......the thought scares me.

I read that in an entirely different way.

I hate my brain sometimes.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

That awkward moment when the giant lizard man comes on to you......the thought scares me.

"Shepard."

...

"Wrex."

As much as I like Wrex...

that would scare the hell out of me.

 

[LawlessSquirrel]

I think it's great that they're including the option, even if I don't intend to take it. My Shepard already has her lizard-man, and that's the way it's going to be right until the bitter end.

Although, I would have loved a romantic option with Jack...that would have been interesting. Honestly the only reason I'd play through as Man-Shep would be to see how that works out.

But whatever, that's not going to happen. As is, I'm glad it exists, I think it's a healthy progression to implement, but it won't affect me.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Romances (both kind) are there as a form of fanservice to female players. Biowhore games have tons of female fans.

Erm you mean like in Baldur's Gate 2 where there are numerous romances for the male player and females...get...Anomen... *shudder*

Spoiler: This is a face you want to punch

Something tells me you are mistaken.

 

[silver chocobo]

Honestly, people should be upset if this wasn't in Mass effect 3

 

[Zen Toombs]

That awkward moment when the giant lizard man comes on to you......the thought scares me.

"Shepard."

...

"Wrex."

Spoiler: AND THEN THEY ALL FUCKED

Yelling bird, is there a moment you cannot sully? Wrex and Shepard were having a moment.

Seriously though, would it be better if it was a giant lizard woman?

But dude, bro, bra, broski, braski... that would be gay. But it's totally straight if a man wants to get freaky with the

Spoiler: ladies...

 

[Aprilgold]

I think Bioware's handling it fine. But I'm sure there's at least one fan going out there as femshep for the sexy Tali XXX Shepherd option. I almost think thats why its there in the first place, but there I go being a slight dick.

I don't feel like its an actual option, just the whole romance mechanic in general. Be a perfect man / woman pushover and you'll get sexy times, which isn't really believable.

 

[ABLb0y]

My Shepard will definatly come out in ME3. I mean, the only crew-member I can see having a problem with it (That human-supremist terrorist ***** whose name we do not mention) is dead. And if she does an Anders on me, I swear I will punch a goldfish in the face.

EDIT: Oh, and I imagine Liara might be pissed about being my beard, but I don't imagine it'll last very long.

 

[Paradoxrifts]

Players should be able to choose the sexuality of their characters at character creation. Heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or even asexual for people who just want to switch the dating simulator off. I see absolutely nothing wrong with allowing people to play the game and be nice to NPCs with a non-compatible sexuality without the dialogue tree suggesting that you've been trying to knock boots with that character.

It would also allow for the opportunity to write in sexually aggressive advances or even perhaps an unrequited love. These sorts of situations really cannot be authentically realized without the game first knowing the sexuality that the player desires their character to have.

Or Bioware could just do it in order to more effectively pander the living shit out of its fanbase.

 

[drisky]

its pandering. Shepard isn't gay

Really? Quote from Mass Effect wiki:

At some point in the game's development, it was also possible for a female Shepard to romance Ashley Williams or a male Shepard to romance Kaidan Alenko. This was later removed, although the voiced conversations for them remain in the game.

One person here already linked this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3HaIk0lnQE] video, too.

Thing is, there is no canon Shepard. Originally, he/she could be heterosexual or homosexual, but I believe they removed the homosexual option to avoid controversy and attacks (they were attacked by Fox News anyway, for putting in naked pixel people; imagine what would have happened if there were two naked pixel men). As witnessed by the dialogue that remained in the game even after they cut it out, Shepard was supposed to be either straight or gay, depending on how you want to play him/her. It was not removed because they wanted to conclude that he/she is not gay, but because our society still has issues with seeing two men together.

Your Shepard can be whatever you want him/her to be (see? There's no even canon gender). I have three different Shepards for now, maybe I'll make more of them, and although I'm not gay, I don't think that putting the gay option is pandering. In a game that lets you choose almost everything about the character, it's a bit retarded that it doesn't let you choose whether you'll be straight or gay. And they fixed that and I'm glad they did.

In that case Volf99's comment was actually correct. It just happens that Shepard hasn't been gay to pander to homophobes. Although the key part of that is "hasn't been". Makes the whole thing kind of ironic really, because they don't know how often media changes things to fit what homophobes want.

 

[Android2137]

As long as they don't make it totally unnatural and out of left field, I couldn't care either way. Lesbian romance with Jack? Sure. There's evidence to support that. Lesbian romance with Tali? A bit more tenuous, but I can see some hinting. Gay romance with Kaidan? Well he has cut dialogue for that, so I don't care. Gay romance with Jacob? ...Does he have cut dialogue too? Because in all honesty, I just can't see it. Gay romance with Garrus? Too out of left field for me.

 

[Sparrow]

I'm all down for folks being able to get their gay on, but what I'm worried about is what characters are going to be offered as gay. For instance, if Garrus suddenly starts playing for the other team I will not be happy. He's clearly not gay, but did that ever stop BioWare? For instance, in Dragon Age 2 Anders was suddenly revealed to like a bit of guy love when he was literally repulsed by the idea of it in Dragon Age: Awakenings.

 

[verdant monkai]

It is stupid that there is homosexuality, because if one of the characters was gay then you would know by now (you go through a lot with them). I will rage if I try to talk with Garrus then after one or two missions, I hear him say something like "Shepard I have developed a strong need, to insert my equivalent of a penis up your rectum, thrust vigorously until I ejaculate my equivalent of cum into your intestines." Garrus is not gay he would have told me. Period.
I have no problem with being Gay just not this late in the series.