Homosexuality in ME3

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Sehnsucht Engel

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Femshep X Liara is in my opinion the best romance you can chose to have in the trilogy. Sure, I strongly dislike the voice for maleshep, so that may play into it.

Anyway, I feel like Liara is the obvious/true/canon choice if there were such a thing, especially after the shadow broker DLC. Kaidan and Ashley is barely in ME2, so romancing them makes no sense to me. It really does leave only one choice if you want to have a romance going through all three games.
 

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Volf said:
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ohhh boy..here we go...

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its pandering. Shepard isn't gay
Is shepard male or female? did shepard romance ahs keiden or liara? or no one at all?

is shepard paragon or renegade?

I dare you to open that can of worms
 

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Bradeck said:
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Fun fact - not all gay people are into anal sex. Also, there's a number of straight people who are all sorts of into it.
*waves*

Bradeck said:
I am not gay, but I seriously hope that the gay love scene in ME3 is the longest, most erotic, filthy, sweaty, moaner of a sex scene ever put in pixels. Like Alpa Chino says in Tropic Thunder, "I love da pussy!" but I really hope the gayness permeates the entire game, and thus works it's way into everything. Gays and homosexuals need to be normalized, and not feared.
Implying that displaying the most savage and filthy aspects of a sexuality is the way to have it "normalized". How about displaying it in, oh I don't know, exactly the same way as all the other ones.. And yes, having it "permeate the entire game" will totally not piss people off who avoided relationships and any degree of sexuality all together because they just wanted to play a nice space-based action game with fun combat and an enjoyable story.
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really? (assuming youre being serious) I think youre exagerating it just a tad (that or youve got a dirty mind)

theres nothing "overly" sexual about mass effect, its just a classic cheesy space opera, the "relationship" thign is just a bunch of talking talking and mabye or mabye not going all lovey dovey if you choose (hell the "sex scene" in ME1 is the tamest thing ever...in ME2 there are no "sec scenes" well not for femshep anyway considering 2/3 are aliens so theres just some kissing/talking)
 

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My stance? If they intend for Shep to be hetero, strictly, then that's that. It's their character, they aren't required to make him bump uglies with men.

But I do think that they SHOULD do it, because 1: It's a roleplaying game, 2: As long as they make it optional, then why the fuck would it be a problem? It's not like just because someone makes their Shep gay, then suddenly your Shep is now also gay, 3: It's a game with romance in the core plot. Yes, romance is optional, but the game encourages you to romance the characters. And if the game is an RPG with a bunch of romance plots, atleast some of them should be homosexual. Just my opinion.
 

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For a start, can I just say that you made a thread about homosexuality just to say that you didn't think it was an issue...? That's like saying RACISM IN SKYRIM: I'm fine with it because it's part of the backstory. Part of me thinks you actually do have a problem with it because many other people didn't see it as an issue to begin with, regardless of how they felt.

But anyway...yes, it is an RPG, you can be straight or gay if you want. Or bisexual like Kelly. So what? Why is there even discussion about this?

Also, yes, you can screw aliens. They're humanoid, every hub planet at least has a variety of species of sentient humanoids, the game makes no claims that offspring are produced from intercourse, and the game does address amino/dextro compatibility issues. In the game, they may as well be humans for what they do and who they are. As far as I'm concerned, having a problem with that is one rung below being racist.

Lastly, you go to great effort to reinforce that your femshep is straight...why? Most femsheps I would wager are straight. You made this thread to say that your femshep is straight, but that you can be a lesbian if you want to? I really don't see your point.

This is only an issue in the first place because of a few bigoted people who think it shouldn't be allowed. I honestly don't care, more choice in an RPG = good.
 

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MeChaNiZ3D said:
For a start, can I just say that you made a thread about homosexuality just to say that you didn't think it was an issue...? That's like saying RACISM IN SKYRIM: I'm fine with it because it's part of the backstory. Part of me thinks you actually do have a problem with it because many other people didn't see it as an issue to begin with, regardless of how they felt.

But anyway...yes, it is an RPG, you can be straight or gay if you want. Or bisexual like Kelly. So what? Why is there even discussion about this?

Also, yes, you can screw aliens. They're humanoid, every hub planet at least has a variety of species of sentient humanoids, the game makes no claims that offspring are produced from intercourse, and the game does address amino/dextro compatibility issues. In the game, they may as well be humans for what they do and who they are. As far as I'm concerned, having a problem with that is one rung below being racist.

Lastly, you go to great effort to reinforce that your femshep is straight...why? Most femsheps I would wager are straight. You made this thread to say that your femshep is straight, but that you can be a lesbian if you want to? I really don't see your point.

This is only an issue in the first place because of a few bigoted people who think it shouldn't be allowed. I honestly don't care, more choice in an RPG = good.
I made a thread because it was being discussed on that "other" thread, I had an opinion on the issue and decided to say it..thats what threads are all about after all (its also easyer than tracking every person on the other thread and replying to them)

I dont have a problem with alien relationships , if fact Im glad how they can actually make a woman gettign it on with a raptor-faced alien kind of sweet and "serious" more or less, and I said if they can pull that off then why should same sex be such an issue?

in regards to my femshep, I was trying to point out how pointless it is to complain about it...like Garrus is a very popular charachter, I get the impression alot of people totally went for that

I dont think Garrus and femshep really go together in "that" way but I dont complain about it, it doesnt bother me because I didnt CHOOSE to go with garrus, its a non-issue, same with Liara
 

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Don't care and don't see why this is an issue in the first place, especially since it's optional.
 

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Bradeck said:
Again, I'm not gay, but I love the fact that they are FINALLY getting some level of acceptance in games other then villains or joke characters.
Pretty much this - romances are optional and no one's forcing any one to make a gay Shepard, I don't see any harm in giving people a choice (and I'm slightly baffled about why it was removed from the first game).
 

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You shouldn't care. Nobody should care.

Homosexuality shouldn't be such an amazing fucking thing nowdays that when it's portrayed in the media, somebody makes a point of it.

Grow up, people.
 

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Gay? Straight?

Screw that (Literally) I want my Shep to be omnisexual and have a ship wide Orgy Harem end. After all the Shit my Shep has been through, Shep Deserves to be able to walk up to anything that breathes and get it on.
 

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So apparently Shepard also has to "come out" in ME2 from ME1 about suddenly being able to vault over cover. And suddenly slow down time.

I just wish Bioware had had the balls to include fully romance-attemptable at least (i'm gonna go with the Samara cockblock bit as being actually pretty well done and a cool character moment-not every character needs to be able to be romanced SUCCESFULLY) back in the ME1 days. Moreover, it'd be kind of hilarious if each character had a "type"--oh what's that, your shepard isn't a blonde? welp, no luck for you there.
 

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Bioware's newest dating sim. You guys remember when they made RPG's?
 

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David Savage said:
So apparently Shepard also has to "come out" in ME2 from ME1 about suddenly being able to vault over cover. And suddenly slow down time.

I just wish Bioware had had the balls to include fully romance-attemptable at least (i'm gonna go with the Samara cockblock bit as being actually pretty well done and a cool character moment-not every character needs to be able to be romanced SUCCESFULLY) back in the ME1 days. Moreover, it'd be kind of hilarious if each character had a "type"--oh what's that, your shepard isn't a blonde? welp, no luck for you there.
hahaha..thats actually pretty funny

I was a little annoyed that everytime I spoke to Jacob it was like I was trying to get into his pants...he was suposed to be the Kaiden replacment..but even Kiaden was mroe itneresting than him

Crono1973 said:
Bioware's newest dating sim. You guys remember when they made RPG's?
oh come off it, its a completly optional part of the series
 

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David Savage said:
So apparently Shepard also has to "come out" in ME2 from ME1 about suddenly being able to vault over cover. And suddenly slow down time.

I just wish Bioware had had the balls to include fully romance-attemptable at least (i'm gonna go with the Samara cockblock bit as being actually pretty well done and a cool character moment-not every character needs to be able to be romanced SUCCESFULLY) back in the ME1 days. Moreover, it'd be kind of hilarious if each character had a "type"--oh what's that, your shepard isn't a blonde? welp, no luck for you there.
that would actually be a pretty good mechanic for the waifu simulaator part of the game, im all for it
 

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My Fem [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/Ruffin316/Hi-Def%20Sage%20Screens/ErikaAllisonShepard3.jpg]Shep [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v602/Ruffin316/Hi-Def%20Sage%20Screens/QueryStandardErika.jpg] has only had the hots for Ashley, speaking in terms of role-playing, of course. Kaidan was "eh", and Liara was a little too meager for Erika's tastes (that's my FemShep's name). but here was Ashley... rugged, battle-tested, and not afraid to give you a few extra orifices. She has her flaws (she's NOT fucking racist!), but Erika was cool with that. Erika had a great admiration for the Chief, and the Chief had great admiration for the "Butcher of Torfan."

Then came ME2's options. Jacob was okay if a little too ghetto at times (my own annoyance with the sultry tone of FemShep's lines when speaking to him notwithstanding), Garrus came off as more of a slightly psychotic drinking buddy (same goes for Zaeed), and Thane was simply just... there taking up space. Even if "eating at the Y" was an option like was originally in store, Tali was nothing more than a simple friend, and all Erika wanted to do with Jack was punch her hard enough to knock her tattoos out of her skin. Erika has too much respect for Samara to try and hook up with her, and Kasumi's lady-boner over Jacob definitely removed her from any equations (no, fuck you and your threesome suggestions). Miranda, however... there was apprehension at first, but she wasn't so bad once you talked to her enough. I always imagine Miranda having a bit of a girl-crush on Erika after all's said and done with the campaign.

Erika still can't forget Ash though... breaking shit on Therum, the brief squabble between her and Wrex over the rachni queen, the shock at losing Kaidan on Virmire... they've been through some shit. And then came Horizon and that exchange... here, I like to imagine Erika either putting a rage-fueled fist into her aquarium or sitting under the showerhead in the bathroom, the hot water masking silent tears of heartbreak.

Oh yeah... Kelly. She's a cute one, but I imagine Erika not really trying to get down and dirty with the yeoman considering the limited contact. I know you can kinda make anything happen during the lulls in missions or even gameplay sessions entirely, but that's what I've been rolling with so far.

But here's hoping Erika and Ash can reconcile their past mistakes. I at least wanna imagine the two sharing a final kiss a la The Force Unleashed before Erika goes out in a blaze of glory (yeah, I'm fully expecting either Shep to die at the end, a bittersweet ending, but one I can roll with).

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Query: What this "coming out" subplot I keep hearing about? If it's what I think it is then that sounds like a completely terrible idea and just smacks of bad design choices, not to mention it also kinda implies that BioWare (or EA... or both) assumes that their fans have no imagination whatsoever. Seems like their trying too hard.
 

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Vault101 said:
Crono1973 said:
Bioware's newest dating sim. You guys remember when they made RPG's?
oh come off it, its a completly optional part of the series
I dunno... have you ever been to the GameFAQs forums? Or even the BioWare site itself?

But hey, they're still better than rabid yaoi fangirls (note my choice of words there), if you can believe that one...
 

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I understand that it's optional for Shepard to be gay, but I think that if you play as a straight Shepard, then someone else on the crew WILL be gay. Now that part, I don't like. Bioware is forcing homosexuality into the game when it was not in the first or second games. I know that people are bringing up Liara, but it made sense with the established lore with Liara being an asari and all. Maybe I'm being a little homophobic or enforcing a double standard, but it will just be jarring for me if I'm walking around the Normandy and I find a gay couple.