Homosexuality

[Woodsey]

Just a question to all of you who say that you don't like homosexuals "shoving it in your face"...

How many of you think you could live with a person who was an open homosexual, was in a committed romantic and sexual relationship with another man, and lived in the same house as you, as your house-mate.

Would him bringing his boyfriend over a few nights a week be "shoving it in your face"?

They're people who say they're fine with it but secretly have at least a slight problem with it.

OT: I prefer blondes and brunettes to gingers. Should we make a load of threats about how acceptable that is or just be comfortable with the fact that people find different things attractive, and that other people are fucking idiots who can't accept that?

 

[zerofan]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy.

Well no offence, but your opinion is wrong. Proven wrong.

But you may think of it what you like so long as you don't press it on others *roll eyes*

Unfortunately you are wrong. The vast majority of the population is not gay, meaning being gay is a deviation from the world wide norm. As of such homosexuality can be considered a mental illness. It isn't normal to think everyone is out to get you either.

You assume that everyone with green eyes has a mental illness, or worse.. RED!? *GASP*? :lol: :LMAO:

Just because they are the minority means they're mentally ill? >.<

You living in 1950?

(And I'm not even gay, not even slightly [We all try it out at one point, and man was I scared for life] so I'm just trying to educate you with things we learnt though-out the 90s)

 

[AndyFromMonday]

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Until you actually provide those citations everything you just said is complete and utter bullshit. Hell, even if you provide them there's a good chance they are incorrect.

 

[Woodsey]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy.

Well no offence, but your opinion is wrong. Proven wrong.

But you may think of it what you like so long as you don't press it on others *roll eyes*

Unfortunately you are wrong. The vast majority of the population is not gay, meaning being gay is a deviation from the world wide norm. As of such homosexuality can be considered a mental illness. It isn't normal to think everyone is out to get you either.

You assume that everyone with green eyes has a mental illness, or worse.. RED!? *GASP*? :lol: :LMAO:

Just because they are the minority means they're mentally ill? >.<

You living in 1950?

I have green eyes! Please don't take me away!

 

[Hashime]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy. )

I was born gay and have been out for about half my life now. I do not wish to change, I do not need to be treated and in all my years in the GLBTQ community, from student organisations onwards, I have not met a person who wants to be "treated". Being gay is as much a part of me as my blue eyes and the colour of my hair.

Happily, your belief is worth about as much as your "research". But then we all know that 97.57889893759735% of statistics are just made up.

Have you ever tried not being gay, I mean really tried? Attempting to understand why your thoughts are different from normal, trying to understand why you are choosing to go against the most basic instinct of continuing your genetic line? It might take time and effort, but If you do not try to change your situation, or understand what is different you cannot really say you are gay, only that the most convenient definition of yourself is gay. If after that your views have not change so be it.

 

[FamoFunk]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy.

I'm all for freedom of opinions but really, a mental illness? That's a really strong label to call them.

 

[Aglynugga]

Yo. Lets get gay in here.

 

[zerofan]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy. )

I was born gay and have been out for about half my life now. I do not wish to change, I do not need to be treated and in all my years in the GLBTQ community, from student organisations onwards, I have not met a person who wants to be "treated". Being gay is as much a part of me as my blue eyes and the colour of my hair.

Happily, your belief is worth about as much as your "research". But then we all know that 97.57889893759735% of statistics are just made up.

Have you ever tried not being gay, I mean really tried? Attempting to understand why your thoughts are different from normal, trying to understand why you are choosing to go against the most basic instinct of continuing your genetic line? It might take time and effort, but If you do not try to change your situation, or understand what is different you cannot really say you are gay, only that the most convenient definition of yourself is gay. If after that your views have not change so be it.

http://www.adherents.com/misc/paradoxEvolution.html

Just give it a read

 

[JayDee106]

I would first like to point out that I am homosexual, but despite not being on threads much, you can see why this naturally attract me, it's always really nice to see when so many people are so accepting, thank you

Unfortunately you are wrong. The vast majority of the population is not gay, meaning being gay is a deviation from the world wide norm. As of such homosexuality can be considered a mental illness. It isn't normal to think everyone is out to get you either.

Okay, well obviously I wasn't expecting to come on here and see absolutely no-one against it, but I would still like to say a few things.

Firstly, we do not "choose" to be gay, or homosexual. How did you know you are straight? Probably, just a natural feeling of attraction to women without any influence or seeing it as wrong. It's pretty much the same for us as well, it's just how we are (the problems as you pointed out earlier, although without citations I naturally doubt SOME of them, come later with a negative stigma towards homosexuality)
But to say it is a mental illness? I seriously think you are crossing a line now. I think it's mainly the connotations with "illness" being something we "catch or detain" through outside forces. However, I can see that, as it being in the minority population, it means that we, are of a minority. But to say that it is an "illness"?

 

[Hashime]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy.

I'm all for freedom of opinions but really, a mental illness? That's a really strong label to call them.

Yes, That is the only definition that fits.

 

[Serenegoose]

Unfortunately you are wrong. The vast majority of the population is not gay, meaning being gay is a deviation from the world wide norm. As of such homosexuality can be considered a mental illness. It isn't normal to think everyone is out to get you either.

Total snorefest. Sorry, but we don't consider 'mentally ill' as being 'not wired the same as everyone else', and we don't consider 'not being the majority' as a deviation. By this logic, blonde people, white people, and people above 6 feet tall are all deviants, as none of them represent the global majority of their genre (race/hair colour/height).

To be mentally ill, to have a disorder, it must cause DISTRESS and impair the persons ability to function in society. (note: as distinct from encountering irrational prejudice from others) Being gay doesn't do either to a person. (outside circumstances can cause distress, but due to the amount of perfectly happy gay people who exist we cannot say the orientation intrinsically causes distress.)

Please stop making stuff up.

 

[rockyoumonkeys]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy.

Well no offence, but your opinion is wrong. Proven wrong.

But you may think of it what you like so long as you don't press it on others *roll eyes*

Unfortunately you are wrong. The vast majority of the population is not gay, meaning being gay is a deviation from the world wide norm. As of such homosexuality can be considered a mental illness. It isn't normal to think everyone is out to get you either.

This is one of the worst logistical leaps I've ever seen. And you're studying quantum physics? I guess it's true, you can be smart in somethings and decidedly not in others.

 

[zerofan]

This guy claims to be studying advanced physics but won't accept scientific answers to homosexuality?

I hope he fails.

 

[A Raging Emo]

I support the civil partnership and marriage of homosexuals but Im against children adoption.

Why's that, may I ask? (This isn't trying to be rude by the way, I am genuinely interested)

On Topic: I myself am Bisexual. I prefer women (I can say I find it better with women, as I have spent... *Ahem* Time with both Women and other Men), but I'll bat for both teams; naturally, I shall have no problems with Homosexuals.

Because I prefer traditional model of family, with male and female parent. Simple as that.

Ah, makes sense, I suppose.

Except it doesn't, because children rarely get adopted as it is, and besides that, a recent study shows that children of homosexual couples are actually more well-adjusted and happier than children of hetero couples. So... wtf people.

Hey, not saying I agree (I don't disagree, though, either), I'm just saying that I can see why this is thought.

Again, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong with Homosexual people (My two closest friends are Lesbians, and they are together).

 

[Aglynugga]

Hahaha...it's called natural observance. Now, I'm just an ignant hillbilly kinda feller, but as far as I can tell, homosexuality is present in almost ever species of mammal on earth. I mean hell, look at dolphins. Dolphins are the gayest animals ALIVE! Monkeys do disgusting things to each other, those heathen blasphemers, and dogs...well...I got me a dog named sparkles, and I tell you, he sees the mailman and he gives that summabitch a run fer his money. I mean, he wears that poor bastards pantleg the hell out! But if that mailman switches up with a pretty little filly, well sir, he don't want none of that, yep. He's a gay dog!

 

[Delock]

Look, I'm going to be 100% honest here and say that I'm still sort of uneasy around a few openly gay people, but that's more of natural xenophobia, because I have the exact same feeling around anyone who is very different than what I'm used to.

However, I'm perfectly ok with them otherwise. It's sort of like a foreign custom to me, I don't really get to say if it's right or wrong, and I'm not going to stop anyone at all. Hell, I lived with 2 gay roommates and a straight one last year, and I can honestly say that I prefered the two gay ones most of the time (the straight one was on all sorts of drugs, to the point that he demanded we keep the door unlocked because one night he was too stoned to figure out how to open a door), though there were a few issues (WHY THE FUCK WAS LADY GAGA ON EVERY SINGLE NIGHT AT 2AM!?). I do have to say though, they were very clean, which made my new apartment look disgusting by comparision.

After living with them though, I found I absolutely despised most extreme homophobes. I already had issues with them for trying to force values on others, as well as stereotyping and overall being assholes to others. In fact, I can barely stand to hear "gay" being used as an insult now. It's hard to listen to people talk about gays and lesbians as if they weren't human after being around them. It's also hard to listen to people spout Old Testement rules when they themselves break a lot yet somehow still pretend to be holier than thou http://www.11points.com/Books/11_Things_The_Bible_Bans,_But_You_Do_Anyway Look, if you're going to go the religious route with arguements, you best be damned sure you get your facts right before you start holding up a bible as a shield.

 

[Ziggy the wolf]

"Let me see, Homosexuality is perfectly fine with me if it's not shoved in my face."
This. No problem, why should I ? But I dont care and I dont whant to know either. I am cool with Homosexuality, but (faggy) "NOTICE MY GAYNESS !!1" people seriously annoy me.

Are you similarly adverse the "hey-hey-in-your-face-I'm-hetero-as-fuck-notice-me" attitudes?

yes they are the douches who talk about every women he had sex with and looks at other people who aren't as hetro (man whorish) as they are as gay

 

[Hashime]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy. )

I was born gay and have been out for about half my life now. I do not wish to change, I do not need to be treated and in all my years in the GLBTQ community, from student organisations onwards, I have not met a person who wants to be "treated". Being gay is as much a part of me as my blue eyes and the colour of my hair.

Happily, your belief is worth about as much as your "research". But then we all know that 97.57889893759735% of statistics are just made up.

Have you ever tried not being gay, I mean really tried? Attempting to understand why your thoughts are different from normal, trying to understand why you are choosing to go against the most basic instinct of continuing your genetic line? It might take time and effort, but If you do not try to change your situation, or understand what is different you cannot really say you are gay, only that the most convenient definition of yourself is gay. If after that your views have not change so be it.

http://www.adherents.com/misc/paradoxEvolution.html

Just give it a read

So what you are saying is that because wild animals do it, humans should too? Humans are also monogamous, an issue not covered in the article. A bull might go after anything that it can mount, but it will mount more than one cow. Unless you are mating with a different partner often being gay still poses the same problem. If you also consider the societal need for 2 parents, to cover both the cost and the amount of time it takes to raise a child the arguments of the article become invalid.

 

[lazy_bum]

I do not believe that one "is" gay, I see it as a mental illness or deviation that must be treated or worked out in therapy. )

I was born gay and have been out for about half my life now. I do not wish to change, I do not need to be treated and in all my years in the GLBTQ community, from student organisations onwards, I have not met a person who wants to be "treated". Being gay is as much a part of me as my blue eyes and the colour of my hair.

Happily, your belief is worth about as much as your "research". But then we all know that 97.57889893759735% of statistics are just made up.

Have you ever tried not being gay, I mean really tried? Attempting to understand why your thoughts are different from normal, trying to understand why you are choosing to go against the most basic instinct of continuing your genetic line? It might take time and effort, but If you do not try to change your situation, or understand what is different you cannot really say you are gay, only that the most convenient definition of yourself is gay. If after that your views have not change so be it.

http://www.adherents.com/misc/paradoxEvolution.html

Just give it a read

ninja'd was gonna post a similar sort of work, yours if must more definitive though. i thank you, getting bookmarked for other situations like this

 

[Hashime]

This guy claims to be studying advanced physics but won't accept scientific answers to homosexuality?

I hope he fails.

First I am studying first year chemistry, and second why?