How are meme's born?

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martyrdrebel27

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So, I know it has to do with when a browser and a 4chan love each other very much... but then what? i ask because of this.



i made this. with my hands. and dammit, it deserves full meme status! so, those who know such arcane magicks, propagate this image.

and, so that other people have the opportunity as well, post your own 100% custom memes that you feel deserve more credit than the ten millionth "keep calm" poster.
 

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You don't know how memes are born? They should have gone over this in health class.

Meanwhile...
On Viral Sentences and Self-Replication Structures
By Douglas R. Hofstadter

"In 1976, evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins published his book The Selfish Gene, whose last chapter develops this theme...Dawkins' name for the unit of replication and selection in the ideosphere--the ideosphere's counterpart to the biosphere's gene--is meme, rhyming with "theme" or "scheme". As a library is an organized collection of books, so a memory is an organized collection [of] memes..Dawkins writes:

Examples of memes are tunes, ideas, catch-phrases, clothes fashions, ways of making pots or building arches. Just as genes propagate themselves in the gene pool by leaping from body to body via sperms or eggs, so memes propagate themselves in the meme pool by leaping from brain to brain via a process which in the broad sense, can be called imitation. If a scientist hears, or reads about, a good idea, he passes it on to his colleagues and students...memes should be regarded as living structures, not just metaphorically but technically. When you plant a fertile meme in my mind you literally parasitize my brain, turning it into a vehicle....

Dawkins takes care here to emphasize that there need not be an exact copy of each meme, written in some universal memetic code, in each person's brain. Memes, like genes are susceptible to variation or distortion--the analogue to mutation. Various mutations of a meme will have to compete with each other, as well as with other memes...some memes will tend to discredit others, while some groups of memes will tend to be internally self-reinforcing."

Thankfully, people get reprimanded for posting just images, which kind of detracts from the impact of memes. The only thing that usually takes effect here is when somebody starts a Spiderman thread.

Oh no, I've gone and done it now.
 

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martyrdrebel27 said:
Frezzato said:
The simpler way to put it is that memes were born of the earworm and eyecatch phenomenon, that state of getting something caught in our brains that we really like. Plus, cats are frigging nice things to gush over.
 

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From my encounter of a rise of a new meme, it tend to be accidental most of the time. Case in point Luigi deathstare
The uploader even apologise for somehow creating the meme.

Same to Yatzee review with that segment about the pc master race.

Ok sure not all meme are accidental (how in the world did they came up with this idea???).
 

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When some retard sees something mildly funny and repeats it to the point of absurdity.
Really, by now I feel like a Meme is just a joke that has overstayed it's welcome.

I'm referring to internet memes only of course, not the actual socio-cultural meaning of "Memes".
 

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-Something stupid/funny is shared on the internet (originally by 4chan or ytmnd, but now reddit and youtube have a hand in it too)

-Everyone laughs and jokes about said stupid thing and parodies are made (this is when the meme is born)

-The owner of the original content severely regrets the fact it became a thing

-Everyone starts getting sick of the fact that 12 year olds are regurgitating said meme since it got old really fast

And that's the meme life-cycle.

If you have any sense, you REALLY don't want anything you make to become a meme, and anything that was made on purpose to become a meme is known as a forced meme, and therefore twice as shit.
 

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TakerFoxx said:
Like a virus: usually by accident and with a momentum of it's own.
Pretty much this. I know that within my circle of friends at my collage club there are about two dozen memes we use that's pretty much limited to our little 'nerd bunker' (the area the 2 video game clubs, tabletop club and anime club are nestled together).

It's something that just spawns from culture.
 

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Something mildly annoying or mildly funny is popularized by the type of person that nobody likes and spreads it around like a germ until the thing in question is painful to even hear without groaning. And then all those annoying girls that are "lolrandom" at school won't shut the f*ck up about them and thinks that their fountain of memes will earn the popularity points. Then they wear scarves saying "the cake is a lie" and the "forever alone" guy on their shirts.

In short, memes are made when someone annoying likes something annoying and thinks everyone else wants to share in their annoying-ness regardless of whether the annoying thing needs to be spread.



I don't know if this counts though? If it does, then I'M A HYPOCRITE
 

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Memes require versatility, they need to be able to be used in a variety of situations. Also they need to be mutable, they need to be able to be changed in a various ways to keep them fresh.

Take the arrow in the knee meme from a while back. This can be used in almost any situation and each time it is adapted it is altered in a way that keeps the joke fresh.


Your cat picture (cute as it is) lacks versatility. I can't think of very many situations that it would be relevant in, and therefore it would not be posted enough to gain any sort of momentum in the cultural memory. Also I can't really see very many captions that would go with the picture and still be humorous and even fewer pictures that would go with the caption.

A meme is not made by one picture with one caption, that's only the beginning.

Also as others have said, there is a good deal of chance in what will gain enough recognition to become a meme and setting out to create a meme is usually a poor way to do it. It's the kind of thing that has to evolve naturally.
 

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Queen Michael said:
Well, when a daddy meme and a mommy meme love each other very much...
Hehe. That was my first thought too...

Kinda asking for it isn't it? Asking a question like this one... >_>

I don't know. Memes mostly just seem to happen at random. Can you really explain why one random weird concept sticks, while another just vanishes into thin air?

I certainly can't...
 
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For something to become a meme I think it needs to have a very simple, punchy idea and must be applicable to real-world things. It needs to be simple enough that it can quickly make a punchline in a small image or sentence.

"You had one job" is a good enough example; a simple line from Game of Thrones that quickly summarises/encapsulates the idea of screwing up a simple task. I think anyone who watched that episode could tell it would be a meme within a day. It's simple, catchy and delivers a quick punchline that underscores whatever image it's attached to.
 

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Simple rule: Don't try. Seriously, don't. Leaving aside for a minute that memes tend quickly to be regarded as old hat, one of the most surefire ways to ensure that something doesn't become a meme is to announce the intent to make it one. Something becomes a meme because a clever usage of it became popular, it becomes that joke that everyone likes to share after they hear it and everyone tries to make a variation of. Actively trying to create a meme is like saying "you're supposed to laugh now" after the joke. It all but ensures that people will look down on it rather than think it clever.


KingsGambit said:
"You had one job" is a good enough example; a simple line from Game of Thrones that quickly summarises/encapsulates the idea of screwing up a simple task. I think anyone who watched that episode could tell it would be a meme within a day. It's simple, catchy and delivers a quick punchline that underscores whatever image it's attached to.
...Game of Thrones?

 

martyrdrebel27

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This is all really interesting. I've often wondered the same thing about Jones back in the day, where a joke comes from. I don't hit image board duress So I tend bout to be on the forefront of tHings thankfully but it it is a fascinating look into how information is dissemenated. The term viral nearly literally applies. I think I would have liked to make demotivational posters back when that was still a thing.
 

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KingsGambit said:
"You had one job" is a good enough example; a simple line from Game of Thrones that quickly summarises/encapsulates the idea of screwing up a simple task. I think anyone who watched that episode could tell it would be a meme within a day. It's simple, catchy and delivers a quick punchline that underscores whatever image it's attached to.
I'm pretty sure people were using that phrase before Game of Thrones... Like... Decades before.
OT: What you've got there is something that could only be a forced meme, seeing as you've created it with the intent of it being a meme. Therefore, you're going to need dozens of 4chan accounts, and enough free time to spam it with all of them so people think other people give a crap about it. Good luck with that.
 

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Funfact:Some philosophers and scientists tried to make memetics (as mentioned coined by Richard Dawkins) a school of thought, but it didn't really catch on. So you could have been a professor of memes.