How closely do you adhere to the law?
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i stick to the law of course, but i jaywalk all the time, i dont want to stand for 3 minutes at a dead road when i can cross at any time when theres no cars what so ever. if you look both ways and theres no cars at all coming your way, cross the street.
"No great idea in its beginning can ever be within the law. How can it be within the law? The law is stationary. The law is fixed. The law is a chariot wheel which binds us all regardless of conditions or place or time." - Emma Goldman (1869 - 1940)
"Codes of conduct redefine
As justice turns to legal crime
These monsters masked by human features
Are by far the blindest creatures."
-Skyclad - The Ilk of Human Blindness (1993)
Law is a curious thing, created by those above to keep order and civility in our society. But rarely does that hold water for long. Dirty creatures will make their way into power and create laws that weaken their opposition and furthers their own goals. That's the reason I do not follow law but a flexible moral code, "Don't be a dick" is the headline.
"What role did authority or government play in human endeavor for betterment, in invention and discovery? None whatever, or at least none that was helpful. It has always been the individual that has accomplished every miracle in that sphere, usually in spite of the prohibition, persecution and interference by authority, human and divine." Emma Goldman (1869 - 1940)
It is my belief that authority is there to feed itself and keep itself alive as long as possible like any living creature. Law enforces its survival by keeping its food contempt and satisfied. Change and progress is the killer of this creature because often it makes it clear that we don't need the creature, or at least not all of it. We need only look at Galileo and his battle with the standing authority of that time, the Catholic church, to see that governing agencies have no interest in advancing the human race, just keep it content with what they've got. The law did not want to find out more then they already "knew". And they keep the tradition going by ignoring global warming, blaming condoms for aids in Africa, claiming that cannabis is more harmful than cigarettes. Who here would sit silently obedient if the crackpots of the southern states would make it law that creationism be taught alongside evolution?
Like the ten commandments, law enforcement was not the first to say that killing is kind of a bad thing, we knew that already. Being a dick is not something that society in general finds acceptable, we figured that out ourselves. There are of course dicks here and there that do dickish things just because, and they should be treated like dicks, public humiliation is my preferred method of undicking them. I could go on about how the imprisonment system fails miserably but that's not the discussion here.
TL;DR: Point is, law is either redundant (stating the painfully obvious to any rational being), idiotic (stating something downright ridiculous that no man would be able to follow or should not have to follow), or cruel (stating something hateful towards a group or groups of some kind of people).
"Codes of conduct redefine
As justice turns to legal crime
These monsters masked by human features
Are by far the blindest creatures."
-Skyclad - The Ilk of Human Blindness (1993)
Law is a curious thing, created by those above to keep order and civility in our society. But rarely does that hold water for long. Dirty creatures will make their way into power and create laws that weaken their opposition and furthers their own goals. That's the reason I do not follow law but a flexible moral code, "Don't be a dick" is the headline.
"What role did authority or government play in human endeavor for betterment, in invention and discovery? None whatever, or at least none that was helpful. It has always been the individual that has accomplished every miracle in that sphere, usually in spite of the prohibition, persecution and interference by authority, human and divine." Emma Goldman (1869 - 1940)
It is my belief that authority is there to feed itself and keep itself alive as long as possible like any living creature. Law enforces its survival by keeping its food contempt and satisfied. Change and progress is the killer of this creature because often it makes it clear that we don't need the creature, or at least not all of it. We need only look at Galileo and his battle with the standing authority of that time, the Catholic church, to see that governing agencies have no interest in advancing the human race, just keep it content with what they've got. The law did not want to find out more then they already "knew". And they keep the tradition going by ignoring global warming, blaming condoms for aids in Africa, claiming that cannabis is more harmful than cigarettes. Who here would sit silently obedient if the crackpots of the southern states would make it law that creationism be taught alongside evolution?
Like the ten commandments, law enforcement was not the first to say that killing is kind of a bad thing, we knew that already. Being a dick is not something that society in general finds acceptable, we figured that out ourselves. There are of course dicks here and there that do dickish things just because, and they should be treated like dicks, public humiliation is my preferred method of undicking them. I could go on about how the imprisonment system fails miserably but that's not the discussion here.
TL;DR: Point is, law is either redundant (stating the painfully obvious to any rational being), idiotic (stating something downright ridiculous that no man would be able to follow or should not have to follow), or cruel (stating something hateful towards a group or groups of some kind of people).
I live in Ireland. Ireland currently has a Blasphemy law. So, yeah. I treat the law like I treat any other set of rules. To be followed when convenient and ignored at all other times. Also, Imperator_DK [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.386310-How-closely-do-you-adhere-to-the-law#15394315]'s post. Because it was right. Not legal, but right.
I believe the person I described (who is definitely not myself) committed the jay-walking offence whilst on holiday in the US. And sex in a public place may not be the actual term, but it's certainly illegal to go and openly fuck in a field accessible by the public.Res Plus said:
Eh. If the law makes sense to some degree I'll adhere to it. If it should never have been a law to start with, break the fuck out of it.
Anything concerning drug dealing, wearing a seatbelt, or any such nonsense that cant possibly hurt anyone besides the people choosing to do something, I'll ignore.
Anything concerning drug dealing, wearing a seatbelt, or any such nonsense that cant possibly hurt anyone besides the people choosing to do something, I'll ignore.
If I consider a law immoral, and the actions it prohibits morally justifiable, I will break the law if I feel like it.
I find purely deonthologcal ethics to be a reprehensible practice, substituting individual thought and strife to find what is right and wrong for a blind adherence to the moral codes of authority. It's a perfect recipe for stopping progress dead in its tracks.
I haven't read the thread yet, but I'm guessing that your neighbours are engaged in recreational drug use. If this is so, I'd consider your reporting them an immoral act of malice.
I find purely deonthologcal ethics to be a reprehensible practice, substituting individual thought and strife to find what is right and wrong for a blind adherence to the moral codes of authority. It's a perfect recipe for stopping progress dead in its tracks.
I haven't read the thread yet, but I'm guessing that your neighbours are engaged in recreational drug use. If this is so, I'd consider your reporting them an immoral act of malice.
Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's good. You should do something because it is the right thing to do not because it is the law. Be Neutral Good.
In 1943 it was illegal to be Jewish in Germany, and the punishment was death. So is the OP saying that all of those Jews deserved the gassing they got?
In Texas it's currently illegal to have gay sex, or even straight oral and anal sex. Should these people be locked up?
Prior to 1865 if my farm equipment stopped working I simply had to beat it to get it back to work. Was owning people okay back then because it was legal.
I haven't even gone to google yet, these are just coming straight off of my head.
In Texas it's currently illegal to have gay sex, or even straight oral and anal sex. Should these people be locked up?
Prior to 1865 if my farm equipment stopped working I simply had to beat it to get it back to work. Was owning people okay back then because it was legal.
I haven't even gone to google yet, these are just coming straight off of my head.
I've read the holy book cover to cover and I am an atheist. It was being used sarcastically since the op seems to be a religious zealot.Res Plus said:
Also thanks for the correction. My post was mostly tongue in cheek thought and precise wording wasn't my objective when writing it.
The correction is good anyway!
Oh but people who follow the law are so much fun because they freak out when you're 1 km/h or 1 mph above the speed limitAlleged_Alec said:
There are some laws that are broken so frequently that being ticketed for them is hilarious, like speeding tickets. Had a friend once get ticketed for a rolling stop.
Is that still a 'thing' in the States? Everyone just does it themselves over here.Dags90 said:
OT: Pretty close. Can't say I ever sweated much over drinking underage though. I mean, there's not really all that much to disagree with. Although your idea that it's some sort of sacred ground that must be held, no matter what it says or what it concerns, is pretty ridiculous.
The government makes the laws, the government is/should be put in place by the people. The idea that we should have no say in it (even if that involves breaking it to make the point) is fairly reprehensible.
