How do you feel about circumcision?

[Weslebear]

It does cause dulling and less natural lubrication, so getting yourself off without some extra lube is always a nice plus, and it feels mildly better too. And on the higher chance of infections front, do people just no wash? I mean seriously. Nothing more than a daily wash and the usual safe sex precautions and you are fine, who are these dirty peasants that physically need this level of safety.

Other than that, It should never be a parents right to change something about their child, it's not an object that they own. The kid should be given until at least age 10 to be able to fully understand the process of what is happening to them unless it would be harmful to the child's health in a big way.

I don't care whether you think one way is better than the other but let others make their minds up for themselves, because let's be honest if someone told you now that because they are your parents you HAVE to do this from birth because THEY wanted it, how many of you would see that as unjust?

 

[Dexiro]

I'm usually against it but since my sex life has kicked off I must say, circumcised penises are leagues better. They look better, are often more hygienic and you steer clear of any problems with foreskins being too tight which seem surprisingly common.

To be honest I actually kind of wish I was circumcised, but I wouldn't want the procedure done as an adult.

 

[Sewora]

I like how everyone ignored my post. You're discussing personal opinions rather than that of the person himself. If infants could talk, there's no possible way any of them would agree to circumcision.

Ask any uncircumcised man in the entire world if he'd be willing to cut off a part of his penis. Every single one would say no.

Ask any man in the entire world if he'd be willing to cut off his eyelids, and they would also say no. Because it's equally insane to the person being asked the question on whether he should surgically remove parts of his body.

I don't understand how it's still up for debate in the civilized world.
"Should we cut off parts of our infants?"

That's essentially what you're discussing. Evolution put the foreskin there for a reason, deal with it. Stop trying to surgically alter your children because you're dumb enough to put implants in your chest, get botox or perform other mentally unstable actions that serves no other purpose than to make you fit into an insane society that demands more than you are.

The people who are for circumcision on infants are either delusional, religious extremists, child abusers or just downright stupid. There's NOT A SINGLE VALID REASON to perform circumcision on an infant, regardless of gender.

If you ask people who perform circumcision on females about the positives of it, they'd give you a list, just like those who are for male circumcision. They flash a thousand year old study in your face and claim that it's correct, rather than actually researching it and comming to the same conclusion as the rest of us; that circumsision is abusive, a violation of a defenseless persons body, unethical and irreversible. You are permanently scarring your infant child in a deeply disturbing way, and you are getting away with it. Monsters.

 

[8OutOf10]

I don't understand why you would cut off the foreskin of a baby. If as an adult the person decides they don't want a foreskin, by all means have it chop off. But to make the choice FOR a child is just sick. If the kid wants a nicer looking penis, he will have it done to himself as an adult. I for one am very fond of my foreskin, and think that if you let the baby wait until maturity to decide, they will decide the same thing. That's why so few adults get circumcised.

Also it doesn't make it any difference if you're Jewish. Children born into a Jewish family should also have the right to wait until maturity to decide if they want their turtle neck.

 

[Herrsunk]

I feel slightly ill to think that there are parents out there that will, willingly, let someone cut off skin from a infant. Their baby.

Regardless of the reasoning behind it and if you are not doing it because of phimosis (or similar); you are letting someone put a knife to your baby. I just don't...I think I need to go hug my parents.

 

[Bobzer77]

1. Circumcision can not be excused as making the penis "aesthetically normal" as most of the worlds population is un-circumcised. If you want your child's penis to look normal don't cut a part of it off.

2. The removal of the foreskin causes the head of the penis to lose most of it's sensitivity meaning sex will be less enjoyable. (Although on average uncircumcised males last longer)

3. While arguably there are certain health benefits to circumcision all of them are moot if you actually wash your penis, which I hope you do anyway even if you are circumcised.

4. The foreskin retracts so during sex it looks exactly the same as an uncircumcised penis (although the head will have more colour).

5. Pain in the circumcision of children isn't just instant after the snip which is usually done under anesthesia, it also lasts for a number of days as the head loses sensitivity.

 

[Sewora]

I'm usually against it but since my sex life has kicked off I must say, circumcised penises are leagues better. They look better, are often more hygienic and you steer clear of any problems with foreskins being too tight which seem surprisingly common.

To be honest I actually kind of wish I was circumcised, but I wouldn't want the procedure done as an adult.

Uncircumsized penises look better, and are more sensual than circumcised penises because there's more you can do with it.. Like, masturbating properly without tearing your bloody skin off.

Uncircumsized penises maintain a proper PH Balance which keeps it clean and free of disease. The foreskin protects against filth. Circumsised penises quickly become unclean.

Too tight foreskin is a common problem with alot of simple solutions. Masturbation is one solution. There's very very few doctors who'd circumcise a child because his foreskin is too tight. There's a billion different ways to deal with it. Welcome to the 21st century!


Granted, circumsized men lasts longer during intercourse, but that's simply the effect of losing sensation in your glans. Uncircumsized men have up to twice the sexual sensation of that of a circumsized man. So by circumsizing your child you're depraving him of ever experiencing sexual pleasure as nature intended, kudos to you for ruining lives!

 

[Pimppeter2]

Hell no.

Im uncut and I like it. My tip is more sensitive and sex is amazing. Im a special case, since my foreskin doesn't actually go all the way down. I dont think mine looks that bad. Then again, I dont really think about how good looking a penis is when I see it. I wash myself and take care of myself. I have Fordcye's condition on my shaft (hair tries growing everywhere on me) and Pearly Penile Papules (Hirsuties coronae glandis) on some of my foreskin. Though both are small and completely unnoticeable when Im hard. You have to pull it and look for them when Im soft. That Papules are the only ones that look kinda bad. I thought I had caught something since I was sexually active when they appeared. But I got checked. Harmless, and removable if needed. Very few girls have noticed or cared. I dont think either kind of penis looks bad, just people are more used to cut ones.


None of my children will ever get cut. Its just wrong and gross

 

[thylasos]

Pointless, except in a very few instances. The assumption in the US that circumcision is the default choice just seems odd, to me.

 

[Mr. Bojangles]

If it's part of your religion, I don't see the problem, as long as it's done properly.

 

[Gardenia]

If you're an adult: do whatever the fuck you want with your penis.
If it's a child, lets think about something for a while: Let's say a new study comes out, linking circumcision with high rates of aids, infertility, impotence, Michelle Bachman, cancer, really anything bad. I don't know how long it takes to rebuild a foreskin by slowly stretching it over the glans, but I'm guessing we're talking about at least a year. Which side would YOU rather be on? The one with the quick, simple and (relatively) safe operation (in case circumcision proves advantageous), or the one with the slow and uncomfortable "recovery process?"

Also: as one comic pointed out: How cool is it to know that someone took a knife to your cock because your MUM thinks it looks better that way?

 

[rancher of monsters]

Wow, I never really saw this as the kind of topic that starts a flame war. I guess people are really sensitive about thier penis, who knew? Speaking as someone who has a circumcised penis I can't really complain. I think it looks better that way and I've never had any health problems because of it. As for the arguement of lost sensitivity, *cough* let's just say I get plenty of satisfaction from my little rancher (not that little mind you) and leave it at that.

 

[weker]

some amusing thoughts on the topic.

From what I can tell most of the arguments for the parents choice are due to it looks nice, and a few health claims (which seem to be proven wrong)
I have to admit doing it because it looks nice gives me the idea of designer baby parents, who don't deserve kids as they put their kids into hazards for no good reason.

 

[AngloDoom]

I think what you're all forgetting is just how horrifying an uncircumcised penis looks like. Circumcision isn't "chopping off body parts", it's just a simple, safe procedure, that the baby will never remember. Hell, it makes him more normal.

That's a whole lot of opinions. Anyway, who cares if a baby's penis supposedly isn't 'pretty' if it's not circumcised. Is it that important? If it's such a simple, safe procedure then let the adult figure it out for themselves around the time they actually want to start using it.

Female circumcision is a more dire mutilation, but who says women need all those folds of labia? They're probably hard to keep clean anyway, so they may as well go.

Right?

You seem to be completely ignoring everything people have been talking about in this thread. Since you're apparently too lazy to look: A baby heals much faster than an adult, the baby has a quick operation that he'll never be able to remember, the adult has an operation that takes a long and grueling time to heal that he will remember for the rest of his life.

So, I can scalp my baby so it never grows hair, 'cus that's the best point to do it at?

Coolio.

Also, I find it very funny how you say a 'uncircumcised penis is disgusting' - that's a matter of opinion and differs in cultures. Most of the women I know in England find a circumcised penis to look disgusting. You know why? "It looks it's it's been mutilated..." was one response.

 

[Handbag1992]

There is absolutely no reason to.
And fucking aesthetics is NOT a valid reason to chop part of their dick off. Why don't you let them grow up a little and then decide if they want a "better-looking penis".

Though really, I think it should be illegal.

Wrong, as scientific data proves multiple times [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070724113945.htm] and agree with one another [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090415074940.htm] that circumcision greatly reduces the spread of HIV from penis to vaginal intercourse, [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081217123819.htm] as well as HPV [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110728111545.htm]. However, with homosexual activity circumcision has little to no effects [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100722075011.htm]. Yet to claim it has no reason is absolute crap, and needs backing up before making such a statement.

Click the blue links for each article published by a scientific study.

As for the thread: This pops up everywhere, and seems to always dwindle into petty fights among users based on looks or "sticking it to the man" if they were "denied their rights" at birth. Less opinions, more facts, people.

So the invention of the condom made circumcision unnecessary? Thanks for clearing that up

 

[weker]

If it's part of your religion, I don't see the problem, as long as it's done properly.

from a religion stand point, it's doing what it normally does and forces itself on offspring.

The issue is it's unfair to let religious groups get away with it, while normal people cannot.
It's got to be one or the other and I for one suggest not allowing parents to put their child at risk.

 

[Sojoez]

"it makes it look bigger." Sorry, did I flunk at math that bad? Minus does not equal plus!!!
"it looks better." Well maybe it does, then again, it's going to be covered for 75% or so during your life, so who gives a shit?

 

[SF_Bahamut]

"Evolution put the foreskin there for a reason, deal with it. "

Appendix.

 

[Ambi]

People generally seem okay with whatever choice their parents made for them, so although it irks me a bit that parents choose to cut their baby because I don't think permanent body modifications should be forced on anyone, I'm not going to blow up with righteous anger when the supposed victims don't even care. However, if it's not painless for the babies, taking a knife to it is deplorable.

I wonder if there are some statistics comparing circumcision pain and fatalities with foreskin related problems, and also studies measuring satisfaction vs. dissatisfaction. I can't be bothered looking for them, so I can't really make a fair judgment.

As someone who had to get this done a whole year ago (for medical reasons not cosmetic) I can say that spending a year recovering at the age of 16 is an extremely awful experience. One that I would not want my son(s) to have to go through if they encountered the same problems. If you had asked me two months ago what way I preferred to be I would have said with a foreskin, but after fully recovering I'd say I prefer being circumcised.

I feel I might be able to give some extra insight into any "arguments" here being someone who can clearly remember being uncircumcised and circumcised and also remembers the trauma of such a long shitty recovery.

Why do you prefer it, if you don't mind me asking? Anything apart from the relief of whatever your health problem was?

 

[AndyFromMonday]

There is absolutely no reason to.
And fucking aesthetics is NOT a valid reason to chop part of their dick off. Why don't you let them grow up a little and then decide if they want a "better-looking penis".

Though really, I think it should be illegal.

Wrong, as scientific data proves multiple times [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070724113945.htm] and agree with one another [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090415074940.htm] that circumcision greatly reduces the spread of HIV from penis to vaginal intercourse, [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081217123819.htm] as well as HPV [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110728111545.htm]. However, with homosexual activity circumcision has little to no effects [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100722075011.htm]. Yet to claim it has no reason is absolute crap, and needs backing up before making such a statement.

Actually the medical community is conflicted in regards to the medical benefits of circumcision and there are multiple contradictory statements thrown around. No major medical institution recommends routinely circumcising newborn male babies to reduce the spread of HIV and HPV. Being circumcised does not mean you can suddenly not use a condom and it sure as hell does not mean you're not going to contract HIV and HPV when you have sex with an infected person. The safest way to prevent STD's are still condoms and the only way to reduce HIV and HPV rates is to educate teenagers about proper condom use and safe sexual practices.

The World Health Organization is the only major medical organization that supports the circumcision of AFRICAN babies in order to reduce the spread of HIV infections. A South African case study is actually challenging the WHO's decision to encourage male circumcision as a way to reduce HIV spread rates.

Still, a 6 year old won't be actively looking for sex and when puberty starts rolling in as long as teenagers receive proper sexual education you can bet your ass they'll be using condoms and condoms ARE the safest way to prevent STD's and unwanted pregnancies after all.