You sure about that? About 92% of the people who played World of Goo pirated it.Monkeyman8 said:
How do you feel about illegal game downloads?
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I am fine with it as long as it is only used to download game that you could not otherwise get from your particular market. Such as my friend downloaded Warriors Orochi 2 before there was an announcement for the American release. We played it, and then when it came out we still bought it.
UT 3 just came out. Epic didn't leave, they just see that consoles are a profitable locale.Axolotl said:
Idtech5 and thus Rage are coming out on the PC. Hell, it might even come out on Linux. Id has not shown intentions of leaving PCs.
I'm sure you believe that Crytek statement, since you ostensibly believe everything you write, but given their lack of a plan to port Crysis and the fact that FarCry 2 came out on PCs, your statement seems... outrageously flawed.
As for the debate on piracy as theft, piracy and theft are not inherently the same. It's damaging to the industry all the same, but consider things this way: would you steal a car? No? Well, if someone duplicated a car and offered it to you for free, would you take it? Maybe? If the once you purchased the original car you had to sign a contract before you could turn the key in the ignition(bear in mind you don't see this contract until after you have bought it and somehow brought it home without driving), would you still refuse the free version of this car? If you decided you didn't like the contract they asked you to sign, brought back the car, and the dealer said you can't sell it back because you opened the door, would you be more inclined to take the free car next time? And if you accepted the car and the contract, started driving and find that you were moving slower that you were supposed to and there was an obtrusive tracking monitor on the windshield that told the car makers your location at all times, would you perhaps find the free alternative a bit more interesting? If, after all this, you decide to keep the car, but have it dictated to you after the fact that you cannot sell your car to anyone else because it simply won't work for them, and you cannot modify it to run on a different fuel or drive off-road, would you maybe feel that these problems might've all been circumvented if you'd simply taken the damn free car?
These are fairly represenetative of what some companies(*cough*EA) are doing, and what's more, not all of them seem to feel the need to do it. Stardock and Blizzard are both competitive companies that have good IPs and somehow manage to make do without DRM(Stardock has that WildTangent thing, but it doesn't really seem to do anything). Now, that might poke a hole in my little analogy: if it sucks to buy the one car, why don't you simply buy a car from a different company that doesn't do that? Well, I actually do that, but at this point as I previously stated I feel it would make more of an impression if people just pirated the game, sent a portion of the cost, and promise the rest of the money when the company allowed non-crippled version of their software. It makes the statement clear, and puts them in much less of a position to continually hide behind piracy as the reason they constantly screw their customers.
That is because blizzard offers a constant stream of updates, and 90% of the value you get is trhough online gameplay.
Think about starcraft or diablo 2, those games are many years old and we still play them, they are well worth their price and offer great replay value, a good online community and constant patches. This is what companies should be doing, blizzard is probably the best company in the PC market and they done so in a fairly good way without ripping off the consumer.
People are tired of paying $100 for a game theyll play for 3 days before getting bored of it when you can pay the same for a great game youll play for years, like diablo 2, upcoming starcraft 2 which most people will buy and very few will pirate, why? because they want to play it online.
Stop adding protection and start adding value, there are ways to make people buy your product if you offer a service to go with your game, if you expect to get $100 for a game with no replay value or any added value, no online services, no regular content update, then you dont belong in the PC industry.
Think about starcraft or diablo 2, those games are many years old and we still play them, they are well worth their price and offer great replay value, a good online community and constant patches. This is what companies should be doing, blizzard is probably the best company in the PC market and they done so in a fairly good way without ripping off the consumer.
People are tired of paying $100 for a game theyll play for 3 days before getting bored of it when you can pay the same for a great game youll play for years, like diablo 2, upcoming starcraft 2 which most people will buy and very few will pirate, why? because they want to play it online.
Stop adding protection and start adding value, there are ways to make people buy your product if you offer a service to go with your game, if you expect to get $100 for a game with no replay value or any added value, no online services, no regular content update, then you dont belong in the PC industry.
i seldom see a post that i can totaly agree with but this is one i do.Stickfigure said:
i think its stealing and i dont do it (yet) but i dont care that others do, thats between you and the company. i dont care that someone pirates a game anymore than i care that the guy down the streets car got stolen. i dont even care that it might raise my rates, my insurance company can find some excuse to do it when they want too anyhow, whats it matter if that increase is because of 'theft' or 'local driving conditions' or what ever other excuse for doing what ever the hell they feel like doing? my rates are still going up.
you think game companys are going to stop making games because of a little piracy? your crazy, as long as there is money to be made someone will be making it. you got a problem with pirates? then go after THEM, leave me the hell alone. take your shitty DRM and stick it .... well you get the idea. i dont care what you do to a pirate but if you want MY money you better ease off treating ME like one. treat me like a thief long enough and ill become one.
and can anyone explane to me how limiting me to 3 installs of a game stops pirates?
Let's cut to the chase here, we all like to get free stuff if and when it suits us sometimes we will use flimsy excuses to keep our morality going. The simple rule on the internet is that piracy is wrong when you copy the game and then apetmept to sell it back for profit. That's where most gamers won't cross the line. Point is that you have to have a balance between security and piracy.
I am not a advocate of piracy or making money from piracy, what I do believe is that some games can be made free at the authors discretion when he/she sets fit after a reasonable amount of time. I empathise the meaning of time.
I am not a advocate of piracy or making money from piracy, what I do believe is that some games can be made free at the authors discretion when he/she sets fit after a reasonable amount of time. I empathise the meaning of time.
