How Do You Feel About the Situation of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370?
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Inmarsat, the company that operates Satelites used by Sat phones and certain types of Satellite data devices has publicly confirmed that they received comunications pings from what is believed to be the Malaysia Airlines 777, for 4 hours beyond the time Transponder contact was lost. This is the company that Boeing contracts with for the Aircraft telemetry. The system is sort of like a Satellite version of a cars "OnStar" system. Like a cell phone, even if the service is deactivated, the transmitter still polls the Satellite every 30 minutes or so. (Hint if you have an OnStar capable car, even if you declined to subscribe, the car does ping cell towers periodically.) The Inmarsat system is entirely separate from the planes dual Radar Transponders. It is basically a Satphone buried in the fuselage. according to some reports it would have been difficult to disable as it is under the passenger/flight deck. It's not something the flight crew could simply throw a switch on. And many do not even know about it. (remember Malaysia Air declined to subscribe, so most would think it inactive or disabled.) It's failure could indicate someone entered the cargo hold to disable it, or it turns off when the plane is shut down (or crashes or explodes, etc)srm79 said:
That article from that retired naval officer is golden, and matches up to exactly how I feel about it. If there's any conspiracy here it has to do with how the 24 hour news networks have spent 24 hours a day for the last several days speculating about a friggin' plane crash and only about the plane crash while there's the crisis in the Ukraine still going on, and lord only knows what else in this world that I haven't heard of because the news has turned into the flight 370 conspiracy theories show. But Occam's Razor being what it is (and also being the reason I'm annoyed by all the speculation about terrorists, militaries, and friggin' aliens to begin with), the more likely explanation is just that these are commercial "news" channels that have realized for whatever reason a non-story about a plane crash (tragic, yes. Worth spending an entire week doing literally nothing but speculating on? Not so much.) brings in better ratings than literally anything else going on in the world at the moment.faefrost said:
Edit: Whoops, quoted the wrong person.
FizzyIzze said:
Quoting you so you'll get a notification, I meant to quote you in the last post but hit the button on the wrong post.
Owyn_Merrilin said:
Malaysia and Inmarsat have now officially confirmed that their system have sent signals out. Conflicting reports of between 4 and 7 hours after it cut off other communications. There's some confusion in the press wether this is from a system embedded in the rolls-royce engines or underneath the passanger compartment.
This is like an embedded cellphone system embedded in the plane that sends out a signal every 30 minutes even if the customer declines the service, which malasia airlines did. It's like OnSat in cars(which also contacts cellphone towers even if you decline the service). It would also be difficult to disable the system, and whoever took the plane off course might not know about it.
The information from Inmarsat could be used to narrow the search area, but doesn't contain detailed information. Right now it looks like transmission stoped over the indian ocean.
The official Inmarsat statement: http://www.inmarsat.com/news/inmarsat-statement-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/
More information:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/15/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-hijacked-official-claims-after-data-suggests-jets-communications-deliberately-turned-off/
This is like an embedded cellphone system embedded in the plane that sends out a signal every 30 minutes even if the customer declines the service, which malasia airlines did. It's like OnSat in cars(which also contacts cellphone towers even if you decline the service). It would also be difficult to disable the system, and whoever took the plane off course might not know about it.
The information from Inmarsat could be used to narrow the search area, but doesn't contain detailed information. Right now it looks like transmission stoped over the indian ocean.
The official Inmarsat statement: http://www.inmarsat.com/news/inmarsat-statement-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/
More information:
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/15/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-hijacked-official-claims-after-data-suggests-jets-communications-deliberately-turned-off/
It's also exactly what I've been saying is needed before any of the multiple "unnamed official" stories can be taken seriously - an official statement from a company, contractor or government agency. It seems to have had a cascade effect now, as Malaysia are admitting that they tracked the aircraft crossing the peninsula on air defence radar. I haven't had a chance to catch up fully with events in the last 24 hours, but it looks like we're getting closer to discovering where it went and what happened to it.faefrost said:
This latest development both confirms my suspicions, and raises some potentially disturbing theories.
At this point, a hijacking seems to be the most likely plausible reason for the plane's disappearance. This would both explain the lack of debris, and the lack of any communication from anyone aboard. Combined with the news that the plane was flying off-course, it all lines up.
So, the plane was hijacked. But the question remains: Why, and what of the crew and passengers?
As fucking morbid as it is to say, I'm forced to say that I think that everyone aboard the plane is probably already dead. With how long it's been since the plane disappeared, and no one taking credit OR issuing ransom demands, it's clear that the crew and passengers aren't a priority to the ones responsible. And keeping that many people alive for this long without a reason is extraordinarily unlikely.
If it is indeed a hijacking, then it's clear that the one's responsible wanted the plane, not the people. And frankly, the only thing that I can conceive of them using a plane for is, well... a terrorist attack in the form of 9/11.
Only time will tell the truth, but that's what I gather from all this.
At this point, a hijacking seems to be the most likely plausible reason for the plane's disappearance. This would both explain the lack of debris, and the lack of any communication from anyone aboard. Combined with the news that the plane was flying off-course, it all lines up.
So, the plane was hijacked. But the question remains: Why, and what of the crew and passengers?
As fucking morbid as it is to say, I'm forced to say that I think that everyone aboard the plane is probably already dead. With how long it's been since the plane disappeared, and no one taking credit OR issuing ransom demands, it's clear that the crew and passengers aren't a priority to the ones responsible. And keeping that many people alive for this long without a reason is extraordinarily unlikely.
If it is indeed a hijacking, then it's clear that the one's responsible wanted the plane, not the people. And frankly, the only thing that I can conceive of them using a plane for is, well... a terrorist attack in the form of 9/11.
Only time will tell the truth, but that's what I gather from all this.
Given that one of the two possible headings puts the plane somewhere around the 'Stan's or Western China, it brings us back to the initial gut suspicion. Uighar. This is a terrorist act directed at China. And if that's the case, given that 2/3's of the people on that plane were Chinese, they are most likely all dead. We are not talking nice people here.Leemaster777 said:
It's baseless but I'm growing concerned about this theory I heard that the plan may of actually landed and is in the hands of terrorist, possibly to use in an attack. Can you imagine if they dirty bomb rigged this thing and crashed it? *Shudder*
Horrible to say, but I'll feel a lot safer if/when they find wreckage as bad as the sounds.
Horrible to say, but I'll feel a lot safer if/when they find wreckage as bad as the sounds.
There's a new theory that's been floated out there that both of the pilots were in fact in on the disappearance, and that the reason why the plane ascended to 34,000 feet was to kill everyone in the cabin, thus giving them uncontested control of where the plane was headed.
I've got an awful, awful feeling about this whole thing.
I've got an awful, awful feeling about this whole thing.
They've also seemed to fly it purposefully to avoid civilian radar, but they still got tagged by a military radar. This also points towards someone who knows their way around the skies, experienced pilot.Brian Tams said:
And apparently the pilot is a fervent supporter of a jailed malaysian opposition leader and is described by colleages as a political fanatic. He was a spectator at the conclusion of the trial where the politician was sentenced to 5 years in jail(for "homosexual acts"), just hours before the flight.
