How many homophobic people are there actually?

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Lieju

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Jimmybobjr said:
Read my other post; i relate to all the issues you raise point out finer points in my arguement.
What post? Because the only one I saw was about how hipsters are gay, and it just raised more questions, but also made it seem like you are just trolling.

If you aren't, and in fact want to be taken seriously, you should make an effort to make actual arguments.

Instead, you rambled on about how you are bothered about gays not liking being bullied, which only makes me more certain you are homophobic.
Or at least just someone who wants to pretend gays have no problems.

Jimmybobjr said:
But yes, i have only met two (ACTIUAL) Homosexual guys. I only know one of them.
That clearly makes you an expert, then.

Besides, what makes you so sure you haven't met more gay people? I don't know what the orientation of most people I meet is, because I don't care. Do you ask every person you meet who they like to have sex with? Because a lot of gays are just normal people, and if they know your attitude towards gays, they might not want to be open about it.
(Then again, you are 17, and kids your age haven't often yet figured what they are. They are hardly representative of all gay people)

What is your point?
 

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I have a question: how many people are dyed in the wool homophobes, or indeed racists or sexist and so on to their bone marrow.....and how many are just arseholes seeking easy targets with easy buttons?
 

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Lieju said:
(Then again, you are 17, and kids your age haven't often yet figured what they are. They are hardly representative of all gay people)
People don't know what sexuality they are by the time they're 17? Seriously? Are they just really late to the game or was I just ahead of the curve? Because by the time I was 17 I was fully aware of who I wanted to stick my dick into.

OT: I've never actually met a homophobe in real life. I've spoken to them online and kicked their arse with basic logic from pillar to post on Youtube comment sections or Fox News comment sections, but in terms of actually meeting people out in the real world who hate gay people? None, so far. And I live in a place full of the type of chav motherfuckers you'd fully expect to be rampagingly homophobic pricks.
 

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The answer is 5. There are exactly 5 homophobes left in the world. It might seem like more, but 4 of those remaining five are just reeeeeeally vocal.
 

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Maybe this is just the case for me, but now-a-days whenever I see someone saying that they are a "proud homosexual/bisexual whatevs'" I always think "so? Is that still the rage these days?". I have rarely, if ever, seen any homophobic activity where I live, so I'm always confused as to why there still are so many that feel so proud in announcing their sexuality. I'm 17, and I think that about 50% of all the girls I've met are bisexual.

But once again, this may just be me. How is it where you people live?

May I ask how many times your homosexual friends walk down the street hand-in-hand with their partner and show obvious signs of public affection, even when not surrounded by a group of friends? Where I used to live, I had my girlfriend of the time on my lap practically whenever I sat down and not once did I get a stare. However, my gay friend sits too close to his boyfriend and people start to stare, mutter, and the odd person shout abuse.

In most circles, being homosexual is not a big deal: however, I've never once seen a gay couple be openly affectionate in public, and I've not seen a lesbian couple ever kiss one-another without a nearby man shouting something about his knob at them. It's not about how your friends take you, but the unbiased and anonymous general public.

Also, I think most people who, at 17, claim to be bisexual are often not. I do believe in bisexual individuals and indeed even went out with a bisexual girl, but so many of her friends were apparently bisexual but never once showed any sign of wanting to kiss a girl, unless there were men around to watch.

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Trunipbob said:
what's me beef with gay marriage? it is and always has been the "sacred bond between a man and a woman" if thy want to be legally recognised as a couple, fine, but don't destroy what other have held dear for hundreds / thousands of years in the process.

Quick question: do any of your friends who have divorced, or anyone you know that has ever divorced and re-married, also 'destroy' marriage? I'm not religious and I personally don't understand what makes marriage so holy, so I don't quite understand this viewpoint, I'm sorry to say.
What if I married someone I didn't love for money? Why should that be more 'sacred' than genuine love between two adults who happen to have the same bits and pieces? What about registry-office marriages, marriages without the religion, or marriages that end in skydiving, or similar? Do the people who do these things also raise your distaste for their treatment of marriage? What about people who have sex or children before marriage?

Again, I'm just confounded by a 'holy' view of marriage, considering I don't really understand it besides being a legal document. I hope this doesn't come across as a form of attack.
 

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They're around. Most people just aren't big enough bigots for you to notice or are smart enough to not spread it around. If you want a good example, go into a random match of your favorite multiplayer shooter. You'll probably find one. Anonymity makes people say dumb things without filtering. Personally I'm at a liberal arts college and I've had so much liberal brotherhood and equality thrown at me that I don't give two fucks what side your bread is buttered on anymore.
 

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Jimmybobjr said:
Vault101 said:
Jimmybobjr said:
how much do you "hate" homosexuality?

because if you just find flamboyant gay people somwhat annoying, or dont like people who make a big deal out of it then thats not homophobic, in fact alot of gay people feel the same way

but please dont tell me your saying based on a couple of people youve met that ALL gay people are like that...but because THAT, is pure unfiltered bullshit
I have another post somehwere above in which i detail my beliefs.


But yes, i have only met two (ACTIUAL) Homosexual guys. I only know one of them.

What im rally going on about is explained in my other post.
....seriously?

not all hipsters are gay

and ok here's my problem

its always the same thing "dont shove it in my face man!" I get that people arnt comfortable with it, I get that it seems annoying people put it on as some kind of "trend"

but seriously?

allowing gay marrage is not "shoving it in your face"
somone identifying as gay is not "shoving it in your face"

and yeah, it happens, it gets shoved right in your face and down your throat (no pun intended) some little fem guy is giving you crap..yeah thats annoying

Im not aying you have to liek it, but you cant use it as an excuse as some kind of "moral" problem with homosexuality

but annoying people exist, like it or not peope are entitled to act how they want to act, thats part of what free speech is, we have the right to say what we want, and we also must face the consequences (the consequences in the scenario above..the fem guy probably gets punched in the face for being annoying)


anyway also..Homosexuality as just another Sexual Deviancy

what do oyu mean by that? I guess oyu could call it a sexual deviancy...."devient" actually doesnt automatically have negative connotations, it simply means to "deviate" from the norm..to be different
 

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ReservoirAngel said:
Lieju said:
(Then again, you are 17, and kids your age haven't often yet figured what they are. They are hardly representative of all gay people)
People don't know what sexuality they are by the time they're 17? Seriously? Are they just really late to the game or was I just ahead of the curve? Because by the time I was 17 I was fully aware of who I wanted to stick my dick into.
Well, there seems to be a lot of young people saying they are asexual or bisexual these days.
And at least some of them are probably saying that because they think they have to have their sexuality all figured out already.

If I would have been asked what I thought I was at that time, I would have said 'bisexual'. It was only later I realised I was gay, and that there was a difference between being attached to someone or having a 'crush' on them and having sexual feelings towards them.

But nevertheless, 17-year-olds aren't representative of everyone, and gay, bi or straight or asexual or whatever, their views on sexuality are usually still immature.
 

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Jimmybobjr said:
JochemHippie said:
Jimmybobjr said:
In Perth, Australia, i find people around my age - 17 - say they are homosexual (Or more commonly, Bisexual) as it is fashionable. Its like that Kony thing; People say that they are "X" to be with the "in" crowd.

I have met two homos in my life so far; Both gay, both in a relationship.

In the hundreds of people ive met, only two were gay. Most were people saying "IM BI COZ ITS FINE" or something.

It is from this that stems my Homo"Phobia"

On a related note, i hate that word. "Homophobia"..

I was under the impression that "Phobia" meant "Morbid Fear" Or "Irrational Fear".
I dont fear homosexuality. I just hate it.

Or am i reading that wrong?
Just wondering here, do you hate the thought of homosexuality or the hipster elements that have unfortunately became a part of LGBT communities?
To be fair, i view them as one and the same; Hipsters are gay, and gay are hipsters. I view them like this because they are one and the same (Synonymous?) at least, in my area. What i really mean is i hate it when they all get up and go around screaming "GEY LOVE IS K, ARIGHT?!" In... everywhere. Im sick of people standing up and yelling about human rights whenever someone is accused of being gay, or whenever someone posts a link to a new article of someone being bullied in America or whatever. I have three on my wall right now. And i have 17 friends. These are not nice things; But i dont need to keep seeing it..

Basically, i operate on a "Dont Ask Dont Tell" basic. Go ahead and do whatever it is you do; just dont keep friggin shoving it in my face.

Ill draw comparison to the Kony thing again; I hate Kony because people keep shoving him at me. I hate Homosexuality because people keep shoving it at me.

And me viewing Homosexuality as just another Sexual Deviancy doesn't help either.

FakeEdit: after thinking for a moment, i realised that the people of the LGBT community i hate the most are the Bisexuals. Simply because they seem to join together in one of three groups;

"People are all great, and i love them all for it" (Arse!) "I just love sex, and will get it anywhere" (Creepy and hopeless) and "Hipsters" (GEY LUV IS GUD MAAAAN)
Maybe too much generalization? I personally don't go around saying it, if it happens to be subject of a conversation maybe, or when people ask. Otherwise, nah why the hell would they want to know it?! I know some people that do, but to judge a entire sexual orientation on it? To say gay is "hipster" by default is madness though, it's the same as saying all straight people are close minded for not being gay.
 

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Hehe funny story one of my friends from collegue was HUGELY homophobic used to rant on about it etc etc

2 years later i hear from him that he has a boyfriend and is happily gay... O_O was abit like well shit someone was covering for their insecuritys. Sure this isn't the case with all homophobes but you never know hehe.

On a side note, me dancing with gay guys cracks me the up!, right laugh lol, i'm not gay but the looks my mates give me for dancing with guys are priceless! I am that okay with my sexuality apprently lol

For me personally people should be allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt someone else let them be. People need to relax more and not be uptight to things they may not understand or find alien :)

Straight but happy to hang out with and dance with Gay guys lol =)
 

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Still an issue in the United States it seems. And it must be a decent percentage of homophobic people considering that every day I visit the Escapist there's a thread about someone spouting hateful/bigoted/homophobic views.
 

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Evil Smurf said:
Zen Toombs said:
Evil Smurf said:
I am apprehensive when it comes to gay people, I just don't know what to do.
Why?
Well to be honest, I have only just within this year seen actual gay people face to face, so you could say I am sheltered. The result being I don't understand how you could be a gay male, I don't understand the lifestyle choice. Interestingly enough I understand lesbians is that sexist? I don't mean to sound offensive and do understand how this makes me out to be a tool but I think I am a *tiny* bit homophobic.

I just don't understand gay people, however this does not mean I hate them. I hate no one!
I understand. Well, an imperfect analogy for how a girl could be a lesbian - you know how you like girls? A lesbian likes girls in a similar way.
Imperfect analogy for how a boy could be gay - you know how girls like boys? A gay guy likes boys in a similar way.

And as for how you should react to a gay guy [okay I'm assuming you're male here][footnote]If not, then swap "gay" for "lesbian" and vice versa in this whole paragraph[/footnote] is simple - treat them like anyone else. If they show an interest in you, then [assuming you're a straight male, which seems to fit with your previous statements] just treat the situation as you would if a girl whom you didn't have any romantic/sexual interest in was interested in you. And how you should react to a lesbian - just like anyone else, but if you're interested in them they're lesbian as opposed to bisexual you should probably let your interest fade and move on to other prospects.
 

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Nuke_em_05 said:
Just like racists; they're still out there, just a lot of them keep quiet about it.

Then again, there are enough of them who are quite vocal about it, at least in the U.S., that it shows clearly in public policy negotiations, so I'm not sure about how inconspicuous it seems to be.

I'm kind of with you in that when someone says "I'm gay" like it's a big deal, I'm like "good for you buddy, and...?". I think the goal should be that it doesn't matter, like I don't run around introducing people to my "straight" sister. It should be that no one cares either way. Unfortunately, many people do care in the negative, for whatever reason, and I think that's what they're fighting to change before it can become "no big deal"; is that it is still a big deal in the wrong way.

Though, I do have to say it gets a little annoying when being gay is the only thing someone has to say about their self. Like this; I'm straight, and that's an important defining aspect of my life, but there's more to me, you know? I don't just tell people I'm straight and expect that to carry the rest of my personality. I'm not like every other straight person out there. There is more to a person who is gay than just their being gay, but it seems that many only focus on that. That could be a bit of a problem (don't get me wrong, it doesn't warrant any hate at all); if a gay person appears to be a "gay person" and nothing else, it can lead to generalization and stereotyping.

Lucem712 said:
(I can't comment on the state of other nations because I'm a USican)
There was a thread earlier about the legitimacy of "American" as a demonym; I think you've just solved the problem.
You have a good point that I never really thought about. I've been a bit overcongratulatory about sexuality, when I probably should just be like "that's cool, I'm glad you feel comfortable admitting this."

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Monkeyman O said:
Forlong said:
I'm homophobic, so that's one at least.

First thing that came to mind.
Something similar actually happened to me a couple weeks ago. My black friend said that if I wanted to do (some activity that was stereotypically black, I can't remember what), then I had to say that word to him. I did without being anxious or nervous, and he respected me for it. Feels good man.