Freechoice said:
What exactly did you hope to accomplish by posting in this thread?
In your first post you threw a punch at everyone who does write fanfiction, applying your opinion of what fanfiction you've read to all fanfiction. Whether this was intentional flamebait or not I couldn't tell.
In your successive posts you've made sweeping generalisations about fanfiction, claiming no one wants to hear criticism and that everyone thinks they're perfect and no one puts any effort into it.
You then try to back it up with an anecdote about offering help to some guy who refused to believe the sun didn't shine out of his arse. While that may be true that is one person, one example.
Your forte seems to lie with literature. Mine lies with science. In science, one result doesn't prove anything. Ever. You can't take what you've learnt from it and apply it to everything else. You can't let one bad result affect the rest of your data.
While you may have other similar experiences to back it up, you are still unlikely to have explored all of the possible variations and so your generalisation is highly likely to be flawed at least and completely wrong at most. There is also good chance you've limited yourself to a few genres or fandoms which are shit with elitist writers who can't take the criticism.
If you have taken the time to look through every fandom and genre and found your still right then I will concede defeat in this matter.
My next point to make is my 'dumping responsibility on you the reader'.
You want something good? Get off your high horse and find it yourself. If you don't want to that then quit complaining when you can't find something that can withstand your high standards.
So what if your generation sucks, your preaching to the choir here. I know. But all these shit writers don't. I like analogies so here's another related one.
Say you saw someone with their zipper undone, would you tell them?
If you wanted to help then yes, you would. Otherwise your just going to leave that person to wander around with their zipper down unless someone else notices and decides to help.
In this scenario you would make some sort of comment about how no one bothers zipping their jeans up any more just because of one instance.
And finally, writing fanfiction on the internet where you have a degree of anonymity is different from juggling in public. I guess a better comparison would be playing a game you aren't great at on an online multiplayer. You know your shit but you want to see what others are like so you can improve and get tips.
In this comparison you're one of the guys who says something like 'GTFO n00b'
In your first post you threw a punch at everyone who does write fanfiction, applying your opinion of what fanfiction you've read to all fanfiction. Whether this was intentional flamebait or not I couldn't tell.
In your successive posts you've made sweeping generalisations about fanfiction, claiming no one wants to hear criticism and that everyone thinks they're perfect and no one puts any effort into it.
You then try to back it up with an anecdote about offering help to some guy who refused to believe the sun didn't shine out of his arse. While that may be true that is one person, one example.
Your forte seems to lie with literature. Mine lies with science. In science, one result doesn't prove anything. Ever. You can't take what you've learnt from it and apply it to everything else. You can't let one bad result affect the rest of your data.
While you may have other similar experiences to back it up, you are still unlikely to have explored all of the possible variations and so your generalisation is highly likely to be flawed at least and completely wrong at most. There is also good chance you've limited yourself to a few genres or fandoms which are shit with elitist writers who can't take the criticism.
If you have taken the time to look through every fandom and genre and found your still right then I will concede defeat in this matter.
My next point to make is my 'dumping responsibility on you the reader'.
You want something good? Get off your high horse and find it yourself. If you don't want to that then quit complaining when you can't find something that can withstand your high standards.
So what if your generation sucks, your preaching to the choir here. I know. But all these shit writers don't. I like analogies so here's another related one.
Say you saw someone with their zipper undone, would you tell them?
If you wanted to help then yes, you would. Otherwise your just going to leave that person to wander around with their zipper down unless someone else notices and decides to help.
In this scenario you would make some sort of comment about how no one bothers zipping their jeans up any more just because of one instance.
And finally, writing fanfiction on the internet where you have a degree of anonymity is different from juggling in public. I guess a better comparison would be playing a game you aren't great at on an online multiplayer. You know your shit but you want to see what others are like so you can improve and get tips.
In this comparison you're one of the guys who says something like 'GTFO n00b'
I suppose one of the main reasons we so differ in our opinions is that I look for what the story is about, whereas you look for how it is written.
I hope you find something worth your while.
Anyone else who bothers reading this post:
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/1216150/ - my account
@[user]Freechoice[/user] (and anyone else) Feel free to look at my stuff and criticise it. I need a good abrasive polish of my work.
