How much do you care about winning?

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krazykidd

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The Wykydtron said:
Ok, so we would all prefer to win our games, that's a given but how much does winning really matter to you? Must you always, always win or dang it there goes my good mood :/ or are you happy to just sometimes win and shrug off the few losses or somewhere inbetween? Does it vary from game to game?

Personally, I was so mad in UMVC3 for the longest time. I got to 7th Lord and there was this brick wall of teams that were clearly made for maximum synergy and fuck all else, obvious I know but I still believe in rolling with character loyalty. My team of Phoenix Wright, X-23 and Vergil/Amaterasu was getting so badly stomped I swear.

Ok, fun game of Find the Synergy. PW up front, X-23 in second and Vergil in back. I can find one point of synergy and fuck all else.

It just dawned on me one day that I was having zero fun with the game anymore, so how pointless was winning? In the space of a few days I went from 7th to 9th Lord (that's backwards for anyone not familiar with the game) then down to Fighter the next week. My win loss is now like 356 wins to 334 losses now, it was steady at 300-ish to 150-ish for the longest time. I don't care at all.

Pretty much outright dropped the Salt in one day, who knew it was possible?

Vergil is still either this ultimate 1v3 dunking machine or this flailing failure of "lol how do I Vergil?" it varies from game to game. I can't drop him though because he's so cool!

Same with BlazBlue except I am this full-time almost mediocre Noel and my Rachel is so, so bad. I don't care, Noel is fun and Rachel is just... Rachel.

LoL is a weird one, I shouldn't care about winning really but losing, or rather the process of losing is just generally unfun in that game so I do care. Not as much as some people I know but I do care!

Basically, you lose one Inhib and you lose all sense of fun, in my experience. Kinda 'tarded
I recently restarted playing UMVC3 . And in all honesty i don't mind losing it helps me learn and motivates me to get better . I'm running a new team ( X-23 , rocket racoon and ironman) , the synergy is amazing . As dor your team synergy , honestly , from what i know , that's terrible . I could give a long description as to WHY , but i won't . Also you are brave to make a PW team . Unless you REALLY know what you are doing it's hard to be efficient with him .
 

Launcelot111

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It really depends on the game.

If I'm playing Smash Bros, I get legit mad when I lose (because there's a good chance the person I lost to was c-sticking). However, if I'm playing Halo, there's a good chance I'm dicking around and doing my own thing rather than focusing on objectives too much, so my enjoyment is only vaguely connected to wins or losses.

I agree that League of Legends is an odd case. Playing against a well fed team is like beating your head against a wall, and the only satisfaction from a loss like that is that they end it quickly and mercifully. However, if it's a well balanced, 50 minute match and I've played pretty well, then I'm happy win or lose. For some reason, I also find win by surrender to be less satisfying than loss by nexus.
 

Daaaah Whoosh

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It's not the winning that matters to me, it's the not losing. As long as there's someone else coming up the rear, I feel just fine. Well, provided that that person is actually trying/competent.
 

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I like winning more than anyone else here, by so much it`s crazy.

I kid, but in all honesty I tend not to think about it too much, unless I feel the game is unfair in some way (stacked teams, uneven numbers, ect.) The only multiplayer game I played consistently for a long time was TF2 and usually I just enjoyed the game rather than win/lose, but yeah sometimes I will get pissed about a loss I deem unfair or a loss to an obnoxious individual.
 

Volstag9

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I like to say I don't care about winning but when my K/D is Chivalry is .4 after 2 or so hours of playing and I haven't gotten a single kill in the last 15 minutes then I really start to get angry at the game.

On the other hand, if I play a game like ARMA 2 I legitimately have more fun driving around and talking with friends than shooting stuff. Situations like ARMA's are rare though.

I guess the answer is unfortunately "very important".
 

bastardofmelbourne

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I've been playing Smite a lot these past few months. I never really got into DOTA-style games before, despite having tried, and Smite was the first game in that genre that really got me involved.

When I started out, after the beta opened, I didn't care too much about winning or losing. This was because I was new and I wasn't playing well at all, so I didn't care. Later on, as I got better, I started worrying more about whether I was playing well as opposed to winning. If I was losing but still playing my ass off, it wasn't really a "loss" because I was still doing my job. And all of that didn't matter so long as I was still having fun playing.

But just recently - in the last couple of months really - there's been a shift in the community, I think from migrating LoL players, that has made "losses" intolerable. Not because losing is not fun - I can still have fun losing if I'm playing well. But now, if you die once or twice in the first ten minutes of the game, you're "feeding" and your teammates will stop helping you. If anyone dies more than four or five times, there'll be a player who says "surrender at 10" (you can't surrender until ten minutes into a match) and then spams surrender votes thereafter. And if you don't surrender, because you want to play the freaking game, they just flame you for "wasting their time" and go afk, coming back every minute to twitch so they don't get booted.

Then it's basically 4v5, and a very small advantage at the start of the game quickly becomes an overwhelming advantage for the opposing team. It's a self-fulfilling goddamn prophecy. "I don't think I'm going to win, so I am going to automatically lose." I don't understand the logic behind that.

Losses like that make me incredibly fucking angry just because they didn't have to be losses. It's these supposed "pro" players spamming surrender votes because they have so little time that spending twenty minutes playing the game like you're supposed to is totally out of the question.

I would really, really love to just play Smite and have fun doing it, but there are all these assholes (pardon-my-French) who are obsessed with winning and live in abject fear of losing, and they just ruin entire games. So now I hate losing, because these assholes are only tolerable when you're winning, because that's the only condition that will make them actually play the game.
 

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I am pretty competitive and do like to win, but only when it's something I think I'm good at. I'm not worried about losing in CS or any sort of RTS. But I do like to be different and original regardless of the metagame, and to an extent (often when my skill can make up for it or my build/design/strategy is actually ok) I will be original even against powerful, popular metagame builds, but I'm not so righteous that I won't use cheap tactics or builds when I'm against cheap tactics and builds. I do like winning, but I prefer a casual environment where it doesn't have to matter.
 

infinity_turtles

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Sort of important? There are games where I can have fun while doing everything in my power to win, and games where doing everything I can to win takes away the fun. I tend to stick to the former. I suppose it helps that delving into the meta-game, coming up with strategies/tactics, and building characters are all things I enjoy about as much and sometimes more then playing the games themselves.

*edit* Didn't exactly answer the question. Winning matters to me as a goal, but I enjoy myself even if I'm losing as long as doing everything in the book to win is fun.
 

CardinalPiggles

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Depends how badly I'm losing. If I'm losing so much it feels like I'm at a severe disadvantage then I won't have fun.

This is why I tend not to play too many skill based games.
 

Rule Britannia

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I have the most fun when I join a losing game and bring it back for my team :D

<3 BF3 TDM games <3

Yes, I like winning, who doesn't? When I play BF3 I always play for the win, though I often get sidetracked by vehicle unlocks; a while back my friend and I would whore out the attack choppers...Sorry BF3 players...We did get TV guided missiles though :D
 

Loonyyy

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Not much. It's a game.

I prefer interesting games to the vanilla win condition. Heroic Last Stands in Team Fortress 2 I remember with much greater clarity than butchering the entire enemy team.
 

Hawkeye 131

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Very little if at all. For me having fun trumps winning every time. I honestly don't care if I win or lose, because at the end of the day I play for fun NOT to win because winning in a video game means nothing to me, it doesn't represent anything truely tangible or important at the end of the day. Does having a 3.5 K/D and a 4.5 W/L ratio in CoD/Halo/BF3 [insert multiplayer game here], REALLY matter or affect anything truely important at the end of the day? No.

For instance if I play a game of BF3 or Halo 4 where my team is getting absolutely destroyed and my K/D ratio is .20 by the end of the game, if I enjoyed myself and had fun I could honestly careless if we won or lost.

-Hawk
 

Sack of Cheese

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I like winning, scratch that! I LOVE winning!
So much I actually don't play much multiplayer games because I hate to lose.
 

lechat

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barely win or barely lose
i've sabotaged many a game just to give the other guy a fair chance
 

Smeggs

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Well, it matters to an extent, mostly depending on my mood.

If I'm playing COD, and you see me running around with a Riot Shield and Throwing Knife, you know I'm just having fun, bugging other people with my cheap tactic.

If I'm trying to rank up so I can finally unlock a fucking armor set I've wanted since Recruit, losing can get quite frustrating.
 

Adonijah

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Depends on the game, but I really do enjoy winning. In fact, maybe it doesn't really depend on the game.

Now that's not to say I can't have fun while losing, but I really like winning :)
 

crazyrabbits

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I was raised on an old-school diet of FPS and RPG's. I don't play multiplayer - pure single-player for me. Fun is just as important as winning, though - I like being a completionist just as much as I enjoy beating the game.
 

SlaveNumber23

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In a sense, I don't care about winning at all. What I care about is having fun, but unfortunately in a lot of games being on a team that is losing will often take a lot of the fun away from playing the game, so in those circumstances I indirectly care about winning.