how much would it cost to build rapture?
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This was made in a hurry, so it might not be correct at all as far as anything goes. But hey, there's a lot of numbers that no one else wants to calculate so I claim to be right anyway.
If we use the MIR submersible vehicle as a reference as far as for materials, we can break it down to this:
1 kg of titanium would cost about 26$.
A 12" x 12" piece of plexiglass with a thickness of .250" costs roughly 20$. We need 18 cm, or 7 inches. That raises the cost to about 560$ per 12" x 12" x 7".
I don't know how tall the buildings are in Rapture, but let's use the WTC as reference first:
The towers weighted about 144 million kg's per tower, and since they were pretty tall we can probably split the weight in half so that we come to a more normal-sized building. That's 48 million kilos worth of steel, and 24 million kilos worth of concrete. Steel weights more than titanium, so our building would probably use about 25 million kg's of titanium.
25 million kg * 26$ = $650 million
24 million kg of concrete = $1,56 billion
How much glass would a normal building need? If the building is covered by 50% glass, that makes about 7 193,25 m^3, which comes at a cost of $2,9 million.
Electronics, air-conditioning, and furnishing is hard to estimate, but let's guesstimate that the electronics and air-conditioning comes at a cost of $10 million. Furnishing is a harder topic, since the buildings seemed to be pretty snobbish in terms of interiors. Let's just come up with a number, let's say $25 million.
Other stuff like administrative costs for building it, etc? I don't want to know, but if 150 construction workers worked 12 hour shifts and made a building every 3 years, that would cost over 2 billion dollars.
We also need a sturdy foundation for the building, that's another couple of couple millions.
Estimated total cost of one over-water building the size of one half WTC tower: ~3 689 460 000 dollars.
Estimated total cost of one underwater city: probably a few trillion dollars, give or take. There's a lot of extra costs added when you go under water, add tunnels that connect buildings, etc.
Whoever built Rapture was filthy rich.
If we use the MIR submersible vehicle as a reference as far as for materials, we can break it down to this:
1 kg of titanium would cost about 26$.
A 12" x 12" piece of plexiglass with a thickness of .250" costs roughly 20$. We need 18 cm, or 7 inches. That raises the cost to about 560$ per 12" x 12" x 7".
I don't know how tall the buildings are in Rapture, but let's use the WTC as reference first:
The towers weighted about 144 million kg's per tower, and since they were pretty tall we can probably split the weight in half so that we come to a more normal-sized building. That's 48 million kilos worth of steel, and 24 million kilos worth of concrete. Steel weights more than titanium, so our building would probably use about 25 million kg's of titanium.
25 million kg * 26$ = $650 million
24 million kg of concrete = $1,56 billion
How much glass would a normal building need? If the building is covered by 50% glass, that makes about 7 193,25 m^3, which comes at a cost of $2,9 million.
Electronics, air-conditioning, and furnishing is hard to estimate, but let's guesstimate that the electronics and air-conditioning comes at a cost of $10 million. Furnishing is a harder topic, since the buildings seemed to be pretty snobbish in terms of interiors. Let's just come up with a number, let's say $25 million.
Other stuff like administrative costs for building it, etc? I don't want to know, but if 150 construction workers worked 12 hour shifts and made a building every 3 years, that would cost over 2 billion dollars.
We also need a sturdy foundation for the building, that's another couple of couple millions.
Estimated total cost of one over-water building the size of one half WTC tower: ~3 689 460 000 dollars.
Estimated total cost of one underwater city: probably a few trillion dollars, give or take. There's a lot of extra costs added when you go under water, add tunnels that connect buildings, etc.
Whoever built Rapture was filthy rich.
Big Brass Balls by any chance? I missed that damn achievement because I didn't use vita-chambers at all, rather than turning them completely off.JohnRLRF said:
OT: Probably not an incredible amount. Once you figured out how to make it work, you'd just have to plug some tubes together and what not. I'd just like to know how they'd make those machines with the complex "Pipe Dream" game as a password.
Andrew Ryan, the man must have had trillions, possibly quadrillions of dollars in todays money but was too cheap to pay for the tax experts he would have needed to avoid paying tax on any of it like any normal rich person. Instead he built an underwater city and ranted about how the government was ruining his life with taxes. Bloody objectivists.CincoDeMayo said:
That would still take a lot of air tanks.dnnydllr said:
1 tank of air only lasts 30minutes if your working hard (breathing more)
I am not sure, it took one million people to build the Forbidden City in China and that took 14years, the only problem is I can't work out how many people would EXACTLY be needed since Raptures exact size is not available with it being a game and all.
Why are people trying apply modern costs and number crunching to this? Rapture wasn't built from Ryan's bank account, it's foundation were him awesome personality. Ryan did pay for Rapture he sold it to the greatest minds in the world taking post WW1/2 optimism and cynisim he convinced humanities brightest and best to help him build a utopia.
Ask yourself this how much would you pay to live in a world free of oppresion, free of war and free of people trying to control you? Especially in the light of WW2. Rapture's cost isn't counted in Dollars or Pounds it's counted in the minds of great scientists, the hearts of philosophers, the souls of artists and the sweat and blood of untold thousands toiling whilst dreaming of paradise. To attempt to quantify it with numbers is missing the very nature of the construct.
Ask yourself this how much would you pay to live in a world free of oppresion, free of war and free of people trying to control you? Especially in the light of WW2. Rapture's cost isn't counted in Dollars or Pounds it's counted in the minds of great scientists, the hearts of philosophers, the souls of artists and the sweat and blood of untold thousands toiling whilst dreaming of paradise. To attempt to quantify it with numbers is missing the very nature of the construct.
ever thought of sponsors who gave Ryan an million or two for a better home in the city, that combined with more donors and Ryan's own money and they had a shipload of money for the construction of Rapture.
I think cost would be the least of the problems with constructing something like Rapture. Depending on exactly where under the ocean it would be built, there are all kinds of structural issues that science has yet to resolve.
But then again, this is a silly argument considering the fact that you can inject yourself with a plasmid in Rapture that will allow you to shoot ice out of your fingertips.
But then again, this is a silly argument considering the fact that you can inject yourself with a plasmid in Rapture that will allow you to shoot ice out of your fingertips.