You good sir are mistaken, as that's clearly not a child.Riff Moonraker said:Thats child abuse, in my opinion.genericusername64 said:I would think us americans would eat the most meat
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!
How often do you eat meat?
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My point wasn't to say that meat is unhealthy and that vegetarianism is healthy. My post my simply because the guy I quoted was straight up being an idiot. I agree with what you say and in a sense it vaildates my own reasoning. It's about making better and well informed choices.Vivi22 said:
What I mean is, on one hand I could eat nothing but deep fried cookies all day and call it vegetarian, or I could eat nothing but KFC and be an omnivore. But that's to misunderstand the issue.
My real point is that how the average person eats, especially in relation to meat, is unhealthy. Not that eating meat in itself is, but rather what it's become. The industry pumping out excessive amounts of sub-par quality flesh from animals forced to roll in their shit all day and our subsequent over-consumption of it. It's fucking up ourselves and our environment. That's the real issue.
Also, I was quoting from the American Dietetic Association. Not the American Diabetic Association.Vivi22 said:
Anyway, as far as I'm aware the Diabetic Association recommends whole-grains over starchy/processed/refined carbs. That's not the same as telling diabetics to eat whole grains, rather telling them to make it count when they do. I think you're heavily misunderstanding the message there. But that's a separate issue.
For the record, I agree with you on this front. There is far too much factory farming in the US resulting in poor use of land, poor treatment of animals, and animals being pumped full of hormones and steroids to fatten them up. There's also far too many people who are eating processed meats which are so far from what nature intended I hesitate to call it food anymore, but that's a slightly different issue.Treefingers said:
Wow, my bad. Completely misread that in your original post, so my apologies.Treefingers said:
As to the claims made by the Dietetic Association, from what I can gather from reading their site, they recommend the same low fat high carb diet as the government does, and think weight loss is a simple matter of calories in and calories out. Both are false and have never been based on good science. Following the government recommendations for diet, particularly the part about having several servings of grain everyday is a recipe for getting fat, sick, and feeling hungry all of the time. It's even worse for young children because they need saturated fat for proper brain development, but the government recommendations would have them eating small quantities of lean meat. Much less meat and leaner meat than our ancestors thrived on for the better part of a million years.
Weight loss isn't about some simple relationship of calories in and calories out. If you aren't controlling insulin by preventing spikes in blood glucose then you aren't going to have a lot of success with weight loss unless you cut calories so much you go into starvation mode. Then you get to experience the joys of feeling hungry all of the time and gaining all of that weight back and then some once you go back to eating a normal amount of food and your insulin sensitivity is through the roof.
