How Soon Is Too Soon?

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Zack Alklazaris

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21st Birthday party? Yea that could be a good sign of what she wants with you right there if you play your cards right.

I've been all over the relationship board. I've been with the slut, the high school gf, the educated, and the loving. Believe me you want to take this slow and make sure you end up with the loving because the others usually end up just being cold.

I would suggest just try and become very very good friends with her then see where it goes from there. Is she getting drunk? Try not to drink too much (yea I know on your 21st I must be mad) You need to stay sober enough to observe her and remember the next day. If she gets plastered enough all those emotions from the break up will come pouring out and you will see exactly where she is in her life. Its a good starting off point to where you can take the relationship from there.

If she is sobbing, crying, and wishes to god he would take her back then its probably not a good time to push forward. But if she seems relieves and ready to move on I would suggest what I mentioned above about becoming really good friends. Then just see where the road takes you. Good luck.
 

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Redlin5 said:
Zack Alklazaris said:
(yea I know on your 21st I must be mad)
He's in the UK mate. He can drink already :p

*enjoys the 19 year old age limit here in Canada*
Ah, well then there is NO excuse to get plastered. At the very least it will stop you from making an ass of yourself. You definitely don't want that.
 

Thaluikhain

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Totenkopf said:
thaluikhain said:
Never take any advice from net randoms.
I'm not sure, but doesn't this statement contradict itself?
My advice is that it does not.

Seriously, though, yeah, net randoms aren't always wrong, but asking a bunch of people you don't know things about a person they don't know based on a few lines of text...not something to base important decisions on, as a rule.

At least this wasn't a medical advice thread though, those worry me.
 

Azrael the Cat

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I'd actually say go earlier rather than later. Most people like to get a fixed idea of their relationship to another person - i.e. is that person a friend, a potential lover, a person they hang out with who they might have a once-off with, etc. Some of these roles are mutually exclusive - e.g. a lot of people like random sex, but feel uncomfortable hanging around people who they've had random sex with in the past. Hence there's pressure to work out what role to play, and then stick to it. After all, there's conversations and behaviours that she might have with a friend, that she wouldn't want to have with someone she's going to go out with.

That's why you get the scenario where someone may fit the other person's idea of goodlooking (they may have even become friends initially because she was attracted to him), but after having been friends for a while she won't be interested in him sexually, because she's already placed him in the friendship role. It can seem silly, but think of it this way - if people DIDN'T have fixed roles, where they can put someone permanently into 'the friendship zone', it would become impossible to have friends of the gender that you're attracted to, as you could never establish proper friendship due to the constant possibility of the boundaries changing.

Trouble is, this works against the kind of person who either isn't interested in dating someone they don't already know really well, or is too nervous to do so, because by the time they consider acting, the relationship is firmly established as a friendship one. You say you've known her for a long time, so there's a good chance that this has already happened - in which case sorry, but you've already lost. However, it might also be the case that having gone out with the guy and breaking up with him means that she's at a time where she is re-evaluating who she sees as a romantic option, who she sees as a casual sex option, and who she sees as a friend.

If that's the case, you're best off moving early. The longer you leave it, the more she's likely to need to call upon you as a friend to act like a friend - i.e. provide her with platonic amusement and comfort post-breakup. At that point there's pretty much zero chance of you ending up going out with her.

Thing is, you're entirely correct in being worried about things being too soon as well. She might be hung up on him still, she might be sick of relationships right now, or (worst of all) she might be bitter about the way that relationship went, in a manner that she'll take out upon the next person she dates. That's the problem with 'rebound relationships' - they end up serving as a means for the person to take out their past frustrations upon a new date, rather than having a chance as a proper relationship.

BUT here's the kicker. None of those problems are going to resolve themselves in the timeframe that you've got available. If she's bitter, she might be bitter for the next year. Same if she's hung up on him, or if she's sick of dating. Wait that long, and (a) she'll probably be dating someone else, or (b) you'll be absolutely 100% in the friendship role.

SO my advice is to act ASAP. Ok, don't ask her out in the same week that she's broken up, but don't wait for months either. The situation isn't ideal, but it isn't going to get any better either. And if you've liked her for a long time, I'm guessing that you've passed over many opportunities to ask her out in the past, waiting for a perfect set of circumstances that will never arise.

Better to take the view that the circumstances are never going to be perfect, and might never be 'good'. Also accept that this may go poorly, and that it may well damage your friendship - having said that, it's unlikely to ruin your friendship unless you act like a possessive git who can't get over rejection. 12 months down the track it isn't going to matter that you once asked her out - hell, it won't even matter if she knows you're still interested in her, so long as you stick to the designated boundaries as a friend and don't constantly try to hit on her. So there isn't really a lot to lose by acting, looking at it that way - best to get it done with. I hope this doesn't sound rude, but I've known a lot of people like you, and most of the time they never end up asking the person out. If you wait upon circumstances, rather than simply asking her out now because you're interested in her now, there's a good chance that you'll never ask her out.
 

Ledan

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How about asking her out for an unofficial date?
See how she takes it.
Unofficial date: a date where neither party is sure whether or not it's a date or not. More of just hanging out together privately. Alone
 

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Zack Alklazaris said:
Redlin5 said:
Zack Alklazaris said:
(yea I know on your 21st I must be mad)
He's in the UK mate. He can drink already :p

*enjoys the 19 year old age limit here in Canada*
Ah, well then there is NO excuse to get plastered. At the very least it will stop you from making an ass of yourself. You definitely don't want that.
I have faith in Timelord but I agree with you.

[sub][sub]Drinking as a way to meet girls has never been something I'd advocate.[/sub][/sub]
 

JaceArveduin

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I'd just like to state I knew exactly what this thread was for, even if I wasn't aware of the wording you'd be using.

My advice? Avoid my advice at all costs, there's a reason I'm single.
 

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TimeLord said:
This is a question about asking out a girl. Aha! You opened the thread and I caught you with my problem now! You're stuck now!

My story is pretty simple really, there's this girl (for sake of example let's call her Laura, it's not here real name) call Laura, I've liked her for a long time but for the past year or so she's been going out with this other guy. The guy recently broke up with her (as in last week recently) and I want to ask her out. Now I'm not stupid, I'm not going to do it right away in case she still has feeling for her ex or she says yes and I'm just a rebound guy. I am good friends with her and a number of her mates and have been asking their opinions but they don't seem to be able to give me and kind of a useful answer. Also, I've invited her to my 21st birthday party in January, which she has agreed to come to.

So my question is this, should I just wait and stay friendly with her until on or around the time of my party to make a move, or should I do something beforehand? What are your thoughts?
Do what you want to do, rather than worrying about how to "do it right." By doing what you want, you're being honest with yourself and with her. That is going to allow you to find out whether you're right for each other.

Think of it like those online "personality" tests -- if you answer the questions honestly, you get a little insight into your personality. But most people figure out what "character" or "color" or whatever they wish they were... and change their answers to fit that result.

In real life, doctoring your answers just means you end up selling a version of yourself that may or may not really exist. That creates nothing but problems and disappointment later on. Best to just do what you want to do. If that means ask her out tomorrow, do it. If she says "No," you just saved yourself a ton of wondering and worrying. If she says, "Not yet," you know to wait a bit. If she says, "Yes," there you go. And if you end up "the rebound guy," then enjoy it while it lasts.

Seriously, though, don't try to find the "right way" to do things. Find your way, and focus on making sure you're being honest with yourself and others. When you find someone that doesn't match up with that, you're incompatible (whether or not you "really like them"). And when you find someone that matches, it'll go a lot smoother.
 

SilverUchiha

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Here's another question: how many boyfriends has she had aside from this past one? If this is the only one, then waiting may be a good plan (but just for a month or so). But if she is the kind of girl who always seems to be with a new boyfriend pretty quickly after leaving one, then I'd try getting her before someone else does... and when I say "I'd try," I mean I would advise you to try. I wouldn't, but that's just me.