How the hell does Gravity work ?

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beddo

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UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
some please answer this question since science still hasn't.

My Theory: Magic
Gravity works by bending space itself. So items 'fall' towards each other.

This is why it applies to objects over long distances without any conductor. It's one of the four forces that we know of in the universe:

Gravity
Electromagnetism
Strong Nuclear Force
Weak Nuclear Force
 

ryai458

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UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
some please answer this question since science still hasn't.

My Theory: Magic
so the thousands of brilliant scientist over the years who cant figure it out werent good enough, and you think the amazinly(sp) inteleigent people at the escapist can, well then you sir are desperate for answers why may I ask, or is it just pure curosity, if you are just wondering why it works STOP you might make them angry..
 

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Overlord_Dave said:
Yes that's what quantum entanglement is used for. But be aware that information DOES NOT travel faster than light. The entangled particles are kept next to each other and travel at normal (relativistic) speeds along a fibre optic cable, so no funny business.
They have separated entangled particles kilometers apart BTW. Entanglement holds at distance. Your right about the rest of it. The problem really lies in observation of the phenomenon; the particles have neither up nor down spin until they interact with something (i.e. are observed) at which point the wave function of both particles collapse giving them a defined spin. Thats about as deep as my understanding goes.
 

ILPPendant

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Don't be silly, Wikipedia has a clear Liberal bias. For real facts you need to go to Conservapedia.
 

Nicholas Traill

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Meh.

The larger the field is, the weaker it is.. you should see what they're doing at the LHC to look at it in a much smaller level.

That sorta makes sense in terms of black holes - seeing as the point of singularity is so very tiny and the gravitational field strength is really massive.
 

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ILPPendant said:
Jursa said:
Apparently the damn apple that fell on Newtons head started it all.
A trite story he perpetuated decades on to shift attention from the fact that some of his work was remarkably similar to that of his peer, Robert Hooke.

Interestingly as soon as Newton became president of the Royal Society, all the paintings and portraits of Hooke mysteriously disappeared quite literally overnight never to be seen again.
Thank you for jumping in there! I really hate that misconception, he came up with a couple of hundred natural laws, inverse proportionality of gravity one of them. Everyone only remembers Hooke as "that spring guy".
 

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megalomania said:
Overlord_Dave said:
Yes that's what quantum entanglement is used for. But be aware that information DOES NOT travel faster than light. The entangled particles are kept next to each other and travel at normal (relativistic) speeds along a fibre optic cable, so no funny business.
They have separated entangled particles kilometers apart BTW. Entanglement holds at distance. Your right about the rest of it. The problem really lies in observation of the phenomenon; the particles have neither up nor down spin until they interact with something (i.e. are observed) at which point the wave function of both particles collapse giving them a defined spin. Thats about as deep as my understanding goes.
I was under the impression that the explanation was to do with waves being sent through a very curved space-time essentially going back in time (since its just another dimension) which meant that the speed wasn't an issue, or else that the quantum state (while technically random) was to some degree caused by the separation and that the information can then travel through higher, closer dimensions... I really don't remember well though. And more on topic, gravity is from the bending of space-time etc etc. I'm sure most mildly intelligent people can provide a more than adequate explanation.
 

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I dont know, but it has to do something with ponies, made out of marshmallows.
 

PirateKing

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Microscopic flying unicorns push and pull everything toward or away. We should thank them really.
 

timmytom1

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Gravity works in such ways that those who know it`s secrets have their minds destroyed , a bit like the call of cuthulu if you will.
 

beddo

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Maze1125 said:
But, again, gravity isn't a force.
When an object is in freefall, it feels nothing. Freefall is in fact the natural state of affairs in the universe. Only when the fall is prevented, for example by the ground, is any force felt.
Gravity is a force. Otherwise what causes that object to fall? If it were in a strong field of gravity it would be ripped apart and squeezed. That would be the effect of the force of gravity.

The force that stops it is the electromagnetic force which hold atoms together, while this can stop the force of gravity it does not have the potential force that gravity has which is infinite. This is why gravity can rip matter apart.
 

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beddo said:
Maze1125 said:
But, again, gravity isn't a force.
When an object is in freefall, it feels nothing. Freefall is in fact the natural state of affairs in the universe. Only when the fall is prevented, for example by the ground, is any force felt.
Gravity is a force. Otherwise what causes that object to fall?
The curvature of space-time.

Also, the electromagnetic "force" is far far stronger than the gravitational "force", the only reason it appears not to be is because it exists in both positive and negative forms, which shield each other's effects.
 

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odd. If anything with mass has gravity, and gravity screws with space/time, does that mean that matter is relativly new to the universe? because assuming that the universe' original state was totally unperturbed, then if the big bang happened, does that that mean another component was added to create mass/objects or was the universe always so chaotic?
 

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Trivun said:
UnknownIncognito, I think we've been pretty tolerant so far (remember the irrelevant jokes thread?), but this is getting silly now. I'm asking you nicely, could you please just stop posting stupid threads that have no real merit for discussion? Thank you.

On topic, however, gravity works because of quantum physics. Every atom is made up of seperate elementary particles (protons, neutrons and electrons), but each of these is made up of even smaller particles (quarks, mesons, besons, etc.). Some of these particles, which every atom has at some fundamental level, are gravitons, which are basically attracted to each other according to Newton's Law of Gravitation. That's how gravity works. How they are attracted is similar to electromagnetism. There are four forces - weak, strong, electromagnetic, and gravitational, which are all basic properties of these fundamental particles (each type of particle has different properties, however). So these forces are what allow gravity, and it isn't just big things like planets, but everything in the universe is attracted to everything else. It's only noticeable at planetary sized levels though, since the force of gravity is minutely small for each particle, so only absolutely huge objects like planets have any sort of major gravitational pull.

That's basically it, as far as I can remember, but Wikipedia might be able to fill in any gaps since my own knowledge is based on a Quantum Physics course I did at A-Level.

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He wasn't necessarily trolling. He probably was, but astrophysicists see gravity differently then quantum physicists. General Relativity works perfectly for describing gravity over vast amounts of space, and quantum physicists have their own set of equations to measure gravity, but they don't do it very often, gravity itself isn't happy being measured between atoms.

Gravity in the macro is described as a bend or warp in spacetime caused by mass. Spacetime was a completely foreign concept to newtonian physicists. Newton described time and space being seperate static entities - just a place for things to happen. Einstein's theory brought the idea that space and time were intertwined, and an actual thing that can be molded and changed.