How the hell is that (not) acceptable?

[The_Waspman]

Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

Ugh. You know what? I actually find the terms poop and pee pee (it makes me cringe even just typing those) infinately more offensive that shit or piss. Well ok, maybe not offensive per se, but adults shouldn't be using words like that. They're terms for children. They're childish.

No, just... No.

Captcha: carbon footprint. Jeez, ok internet, I'll stop watsing time on you and do something useful.

 

[Starik20X6]

I've got another one. I was thinking today (surprising, I know): why is it ok to be attracted to some physical traits but not others? Nobody has a hissy fit when I say I like red haired girls. But suddenly I'm a bad person if I say I like large breasts? I can kind of see the logic, maybe, but the thing is, I didn't say there was anything wrong with less chesty girls, just like I didn't say there was anything wrong with not having red hair. And just because I have a preference for something doesn't mean I'm ignoring everything else- as I've said I like red hair but so far I've only been with blondes and brunettes. And I'm just one guy- I don't claim to speak for every man's preferences.

 

[Riff Moonraker]

Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

In this case, it simply depends on your company. If you are out in public, around children, it (rightfully so) isnt acceptable. Its a matter of respect. I have been in more than one situation where I have had to ask someone to watch their language, because I didnt want my kids to hear it. I behave in a similar way, in public, because I know its disrespectful to curse around children, as well as other people. Sure, it may not bother you and I to "color up" our language, but its not everyones cup of tea, and being civil, we should respect that.

All you've done here is repeat that it's considered bad, not explained why. Why are these words worse than any others? My point is it's meaning we should concern ourselves with, not the synonyms used to express it. So shit being unsuitable for kids makes no sense when poop and doo doo aren't. The word "shit" literally just a sound. It seems superstitious and weird to give it this sort of power.

Its common sense. Simply put, the majority of the public will frown upon someone cursing up a storm in public. Again, its a matter of respect for other people, and common sense will tell you that any parent with any sense is NOT going to respond well to a jerk running around in public swearing around their kids. I most certainly will not tolerate it, nor would alot of other people. Out of respect of other people, its the polite thing to do NOT to go spouting off that garbage in public around a bunch of people and get them offended.

When I am around similar company, my language is most certainly different than if I am out in public somewhere walking around, or even if my kids are with me. I dont talk that way in front of them, and I dont want anyone talking that way around them. I treat anyone elses kids the same way, and watch my language, because its the RIGHT THING TO DO. You dont need any other reason than that.

 

[Riff Moonraker]

I mentioned to my therapist that I was asexual, and he wanted to put me on medication. It's like that "Not wanting a girlfriend is a serious illness" bullshit.

Also, I really wish people would stop giving me a hard time for liking Hayden Christensen's Vader more than James Earl Jones.

But the biggest one is when people ask me what form of government I prefer, and I look at them with a perfectly straight face and say "Autocracy"

Not to get all anal on you, and all, but... James Earl Jones only voiced Vader. He did it in ALL instances that you saw him in the Star Wars movies. I think what you are doing is comparing the actors inside the vader suits, which would be Hayden Christiansen and David Prowse.

 

[NightHawk21]

Different people consider different things taboo. That's normal.

But society is strange sometimes. You walk down the street and notice random things.

For example, how the hell did public nudity become so taboo? Why did more "civilised" cultures come to disapprove of it? I can understand requiring clothes for specific things, but why the complete shift? Why are clothes now a requirement, rather than an option?

Any other examples?

I can give what I think are the two-three most probable explanations for how clothing became the norm.

1) The spread of religion. Most of the main three religions have sexuality clauses and only really support sexual behavior between married people (a direct extension I guess would be nudity since you aren't really technically nude unless you uncover your sexual organs)

2)The spread of early humans out into new areas. After our emergence from Africa, and our subsequent movement into Asia and Europe, our ancestors were bound to find colder climates that required some sort of protection. It stands to reason that they would then develop clothing for all parts of the year. There was also some reports of jewelery being made among the latter early humans, so I would think that clothes are not that far off.

3)Movement into cities with the agricultural revolution about 10k years ago. [This one presents a much later case where humans have already invented clothes, but nudity wasn't taboo yet.] The movement into larger urban centers that occurs some time later is probably the cause of the taboo. Urban life requires at least a minimal amount of personal hygiene, which is probably easily accomplished with some basic bathing and clothes. In addition you see the replacement of contact syphilis (not its actual name, but its a non-sexually transmitted syphillis) by the sexual transmitted one since direct contact would likely be more difficult to come by if wearing clothes became the norm.

 

[DANEgerous]

Also, someone tell me what the fuck makes weed worse than tobacco and alcohol?

Well, since alcohol leads to youths being violent, dramatic, pukey and coma...y, and tobacco leads to cancer, while marijuana leads to sitting on your couch with your mates playing Mario Party.

Yeah I don't get it either.

But the government said they have studies, i have not found these studies but the assure me they exist. So you see that is why, it is also why our drinking age is 21. have you net seen the studies on how much lower Europe's intellect is due to the policies? Neither have I but that is because we are not doters.

So you see that is why it is.

 

[Cyrus Hanley]

Breast Milk - A really weird thing for most people that aren't small children (I feel weird about it too), yet most people (myself included) are absolutely fine about drinking a cow's milk. Think about that objectively and you have to wonder how we came to that conclusion.

I still wonder what was going through the mind of the guy who thought it was a good idea to squeeze that thing hanging off the cow and drink what came out of it.

 

[Riff Moonraker]

I mentioned to my therapist that I was asexual, and he wanted to put me on medication. It's like that "Not wanting a girlfriend is a serious illness" bullshit.

Also, I really wish people would stop giving me a hard time for liking Hayden Christensen's Vader more than James Earl Jones.

But the biggest one is when people ask me what form of government I prefer, and I look at them with a perfectly straight face and say "Autocracy"

Not to get all anal on you, and all, but... James Earl Jones only voiced Vader. He did it in ALL instances that you saw him in the Star Wars movies. I think what you are doing is comparing the actors inside the vader suits, which would be Hayden Christiansen and David Prowse.

As the voice of Vader, James Earl Jones gave him his personality. However, Vader in the suit is an entirely one-dimensional character. He never really had any kind of personality until 2002. It wasn't until I saw scenes like this that I actually started to like Vader as a character:

Ah, I think I see what you are getting at... you mean the whole dark jedi Vader, not just Vader in the suit. Then again, I felt like at the end of Jedi he had ALOT of personality, when Luke took his mask off. Yeah, it was brief, but to me it was VERY powerful. (Which, THAT Vader was played by Sebastian Shaw.Yeah, James Earl Jones voiced him, David Prowse was in the suit and did the fighting as Vader, and Sebastian Shaw did the end scene when the mask came off... )

 

[Relish in Chaos]

-Words (without context) being taboo at all.

-Nudity (not public, though; I understand the reasoning for that, although it?s not as if there?s a law against teenage girls wearing shorts so short that their arse is hanging out), and sex in general. Also, why is sex considered more offensive than violence?

-Why is owning lolicon illegal? It doesn?t actually feature real children. Hypothetically, going by this line of thinking, I could draw a picture of a naked boy eating an ice cream and get arrested?for something fictional that I drew.

-Homosexuality. Just fucking get over it? It?s not as if they?re forcing you to have sex with another man, so why should you get in a pissy mood about sex and relationships between two consensual adults who just happen to be the same sex? Why should your interactions be held up on a higher pedestal than theirs? I mean, nowadays it?s not OK to pick on black people and Jews, yet it?s still perfectly fine (and, in some cases, even encouraged) to beat up on gay kids for something that they can?t control and isn?t hurting anyone?

-Prostitution and drugs. There wouldn?t be so much trafficking and dodgy drug deals respectively if they were made legal. I mean, porn stars are legal.

-What does and does not make you a child molestor, according to law. So apparently I?m a ?depraved rapist? if I?m 20 and happen to have sex with a 17-year-old when we both know what we?re doing? I just find it quite inconsistent that someone can have a black mark for the rest of his life for a sexual incident with someone that?s only ?immature? in the eyes of the police, or who may not have bothered to tell the guy her age. Same thing with ?thought crimes?. So what if I find that particularly developed 14-year-old girl hot; it doesn?t mean I only go for them or that I actually want to fuck her.

-Censorship, which I feel can often hurt the art of something. Sex and violence should only be offensive if it?s gratuitous in an out-of-place environment or making out bad things to be good (like a graphic scene of a baby being fucked, and/or the main character and all of his actions, including this, are portrayed to be positive or something like that)

-Why many humans are perfectly fine with eating meat from cows, pigs, etc., but recoil in horror at the notion of people rating dogs, frog?s legs and animal testicles from other countries.

-Anal sex. How is it any more disgusting or dangerous than vaginal or oral sex? No, seriously. Tell me how sticking your dick in someone?s shitter is any worse than sticking your tongue where someone pisses and bleeds once a month?

-Crossdressing. So it?s fine for women to walk around in men?s (or, nowadays, gender-neutral) clothing like trousers, but it?s unacceptable for men to walk around in skirts and high heels? What kind of bullshit double standards is that?

-Tradition in general. At least, most of it.

-Defending discrimination via religion. Why is it suddenly OK to deny homosexuals accommodation in your hotel because ?God said so?? If the owner wasn?t Christian, he wouldn?t get that special treatment in court. And why are so scared of criticizing other people?s cultures and religions, because we might offend them? Oh, boo fucking hoo! If I said that I believed in dragons that talked to me at night, I?d get laughed at and no-one would care if I was ?offended?. If I want to disapprove of you bringing up your kid to believe that any non-Christian is going to Hell without exposing him to other (more open-minded) worldviews, I bloody well will.

-Why is objectification of women in porn a bad thing? Yeah, that?s what it?s meant for: so you can let off some steam and jack off without having to think about what school this girl went to and if she?s a nice person? Also, why does no-one complain about the objectification of men in porn? No, seriously.

-Why is alcohol considered worse than certain (harmless) drugs? Why is someone accused of ?trying to act cool? by taking weed, but it?s perfectly alright to get pissed off your head on whiskey, pass out, and wake up with a headache in the morning?

-Why is it socially acceptable for women to hold hands with each other, but not for men, because that?s seen as an admission of homosexuality? Or this:

Generic situation of people in changing rooms or something for a formal event

*Woman comes out of changing room*
Woman 1: Oh, you look so hot in that dress!
Woman 2: Thanks, that's nice of you.

*Man comes out of changing room*
Man 1: Oh, you look so hot in that suit!
Man 2: ?Bit gay, mate.

I think a lot of men are just insecure, but if anything, wouldn?t it make you more masculine to be confident in your apparent heterosexuality and be perfectly fine with admitting that a guy looks good-looking, even if you?re not sexually oriented towards him? Who cares if some dick thinks you?re gay?

In regards to nudity being taboo, it's probably because most people are hard enough to look at with their clothes on. And I much prefer not seeing the puckered butt-hole of a stranger every time someone bends over to pick something up in public.

After a while, you?d desensitize yourself to it. Then again, I guess that would mean most people would be desensitized to any kind of sexual attraction, leading to a lack of interest in sex and, thus, a lack of reproduction. So perhaps it worked out for the better.

What I?m not on board with is old fogies flipping their shit any time there?s a nip slip on TV before the watershed. I mean, grow the fuck up!

 

[Riff Moonraker]

Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

In this case, it simply depends on your company. If you are out in public, around children, it (rightfully so) isnt acceptable. Its a matter of respect. I have been in more than one situation where I have had to ask someone to watch their language, because I didnt want my kids to hear it. I behave in a similar way, in public, because I know its disrespectful to curse around children, as well as other people. Sure, it may not bother you and I to "color up" our language, but its not everyones cup of tea, and being civil, we should respect that.

All you've done here is repeat that it's considered bad, not explained why. Why are these words worse than any others? My point is it's meaning we should concern ourselves with, not the synonyms used to express it. So shit being unsuitable for kids makes no sense when poop and doo doo aren't. The word "shit" literally just a sound. It seems superstitious and weird to give it this sort of power.

Its common sense. Simply put, the majority of the public will frown upon someone cursing up a storm in public. Again, its a matter of respect for other people, and common sense will tell you that any parent with any sense is NOT going to respond well to a jerk running around in public swearing around their kids. I most certainly will not tolerate it, nor would alot of other people. Out of respect of other people, its the polite thing to do NOT to go spouting off that garbage in public around a bunch of people and get them offended.

When I am around similar company, my language is most certainly different than if I am out in public somewhere walking around, or even if my kids are with me. I dont talk that way in front of them, and I dont want anyone talking that way around them. I treat anyone elses kids the same way, and watch my language, because its the RIGHT THING TO DO. You dont need any other reason than that.

But why? Why don't people like those words? There's no reason for those to be bad words. That's my point. All you're saying is "those words are bad because people don't like them." The point I'm making is there is no reason for people to not like those words.

I dont know who determines that, lol, I just know that it IS. Who knows... maybe you and I could start saying, "Aboobuka" and tell people its an absolutely filthy word, and in a few generations, it could be the A word that you just dont mention... They are definitely deemed bad from somewhere, all I know is that it was already established fact when I was growing up. Dagnabbit, man, now I will be wondering about that the rest of the day. Thanks.

 

[Nerexor]

AND ANOTHER THING! WHY THE FUCK DOES "'I' before 'E', except after 'C'" NOT APPLY TO THE WORD "Weird"???

I'm sure I saw somewhere that there are more exceptions to that rule than there are words that follow it.

Because the english language didn't develop out of a cohesive set of rules. It's old saxon (where we get a lot of our everyday short words. House came from Hus, for example), mixed with bits of norman french, bastardized greek and latin, and linguists only know what else. And we keep adding to it, mixing and mashing words together to make other words, applying new meanings to existing words, that no dictionary could ever hope to keep up with it.

Long story short, language is complicated, and that is why we have exceptions to every rule.

 

[rob_simple]

I've personally never understood how a person in most 'civilised' countries is deemed responsible enough to breed before they are allowed to drink alcohol.

Hell, in the UK you can knock a girl up and marry the poor ***** before you can legally watch Terminator 2.

Da fuq?

 

[esperandote]

About nudity it's a fashion industry and capitalism conspiration. Technically people would do fine just wearing underwear and shoes, and anything else for when is cold, though i would want to look at fat, hairy people in underwear.

 

[esperandote]

Drinking in public, that rule gets a little loose when there's some public event but if you walk down the street in a regular day drinking a can of beer you might get fined here.

 

[Shadow flame master]

Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

Same thing with me. I mean, if you listen to people yell and rap in a microphone, AT FULL VOLUME, then you shouldn't get mad at me for cussing too. Espeacially when you're cussing with the lyrics.

 

[ThePerfectionist]

Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

To add on to that, I keep getting told to not say "hell" as it is offensive and a swear word. What the fuck?

The problem with this censorship is that we start classifying backwards. I'm not supposed to say "shit" in front of the children I teach, so I say "crap" instead. One of them told me that was a bad word.

I think this is a sign. If we start using some words as substitutions for bad words, then those substitutions are going to come to mean the exact same thing and be just as bad. Freedom for language is the only solution, so I say FUCK that.