It's the final part of the most beloved game series in history...
They probably want to make it a good one.
They probably want to make it a good one.
How to feel about Valve (a love/hate rant of sorts)
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They DO NOT HAVE ANY DEVS FOR IT!wrecker77 said:
Got it? :/ That's the only reason they don't update it now. They don't have enough devs that can work on the PS3 version. If they had they would be updating it.
As for the whole rant.
Episode 1 took 2 years which was a bit bad, Episode 2 came out like within 1 or 2 years too. Episode 1 being the shorter game but was still ok.
Episode 2 was longer and was the same length as the first game. Well depends on how you play them. HL2 can be cleared in a somewhat fast time.
For L4D2 I think it's GREAT that they could push it out so quick. It has a lot of content too. So I'm fine with it.
Though I still want CSS to be updated to Orange Box engine. Valve it's been like 2 years since you said it.
Hurry up a bit.
1. Not VALVe, Gabe Newell hates the PS3 for whatever reason and I in turn dislike him.dodo1331 said:
2. VALVe is a computer company, they make computer games. Not console games. VALVe has done nothing with the PS3's hardware, they gave EA The Orange Box to port to the PS3, they had nothing to do with it. All they've done from what they've said is "looked at it" and that's hardly enough to learn a new platform. VALVe shouldn't expect to be gods of programing on a completely different platform they've never touched, and it's silly of us to expect that from them. The PS3 is not "harder" to work with, it's just "different".
Personally, to me, I want VALVe to be taken down a peg or two. I don't want them to suffer or anything, but I do want them to realize that they are not invulnerable and they can screw up to. I've just been getting a really bad vibe from VALVe, they seem to be stumbling everywhere with the PS3 support crap, the stupid TF2 unlocking system, the whole L4D2 stuff, and other things. It's just getting bumpy for them I guess, and I hope they learn whatever they can from it.
I love Valve but it wouldn't do them any harm to take on board a LITTLE negative feedback from gamers once in a while, it will just stop them from getting lazy.
And that means more fantastic games.
And that means more fantastic games.
I love valve I just got a little bit annoyed by the whole L4D 2 full price game thing. Still gonna buy it and hopefully love it tho.
Half-life 2, the episodes, TF 2 and the game L4D itself makes up for evrything tho :3
Half-life 2, the episodes, TF 2 and the game L4D itself makes up for evrything tho :3
I felt exactly the same upon hearing that, especially considering this will very likely be among the last, if not the last source engine game. So why involve all this heavy stuff now. You leave us hanging with the intense storyline significant end of 2 and then put us on hold like we don't freakin matter. You're already producing sequels to games that didn't even exist when ep 2 was released and it really honestly doesn't seem to me like valve really cares anymore.Powerman88 said:
The thing that really hurts is I can't argue with the quality of their games, but with something like this when they almost seem to be intentionally ignoring a title they know literally millions of gamers are hanging on edge for... Prioritizing new projects over finishing off the hl2 storyline which is something a lot of us have been desperate for here.
I think this really comes down to them taking advantage of what they know to be a secure market. I'm really starting to feel seriously let down by them, this whole sign language thing was an excuse, a lay off to placate some one asking a lot of questions.
Well the questions aren't going to stop Valve and the more time that you allow to go by the more likely you may actually start to hurt your fan base here. I don't know why the priorities over there keep shifting, and I honestly doubt any level of reaction from us save complete boycott (which we all know isn't happening) would change this.
I really dislike Valve...
To me they're just a bunch of douche-bags... Who like themselves extremely much. They've made some decent games (Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike) and some good ones (Portal, Left 4 Dead)... And there's the Half-Life series, one of the most overrated gaming-series ever.
I have no idea how they've achieved their God-like status in the industry...? They haven't done anything exceptional and from what I've heard and seen (e.g interviews) of them; they're not very nice people...
Then again, I think that a Disney-game is the best game ever, so who am I to judge?
To me they're just a bunch of douche-bags... Who like themselves extremely much. They've made some decent games (Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike) and some good ones (Portal, Left 4 Dead)... And there's the Half-Life series, one of the most overrated gaming-series ever.
I have no idea how they've achieved their God-like status in the industry...? They haven't done anything exceptional and from what I've heard and seen (e.g interviews) of them; they're not very nice people...
Then again, I think that a Disney-game is the best game ever, so who am I to judge?
I disagree. I think the market (IE us as consumers) has a huge impact on the direction of a developer. If we don't buy their games they don't exist as a profitable business (see GRIN earlier this week).YuheJi said:
Its nice to hear that I am not crazy and the only one who feels this way. As much as I will never stop buying Valve's games because they are all awesome, I do feel kind of like a battered consumer that gets no respect from the company that creates the brilliant art I consume. Please Valve appreciate the fact that we support your status and lifestyle. Yes you earned every last smidge of respect you get, just be a LITTLE humble. That's all I ask.crooked_ferret said:
/Crying Session
Maybe it's a waste of your time, but not a waste of their money. Remember the facial emotive technology that made Alyx so personable? Similar technology is used to help children with autism. [http://www.facefx.com/story/video-game-technology-used-help-children-autism] (That link doesn't specifically talk about Valve tech, but I've heard of Valve's tech being used for this before...) If Valve develops a sign-language graphical component for computer systems, incorporating it into their video games is the absolute smallest part of the picture. Sorry, but Valve seems to be maturing past servicing their fans with great games. They're actually helping people with real problems.Powerman88 said:
Well, if you mean as a game developer, then I think you might be getting your wish.Jumplion said:
They said they would rather make a much better quality product than struggle with getting to grips with the console itself and make a sub par product overall. IMHO that's a legitimate reason, especially when they are making an arse load of money as is. And if you look at their games, they aren't about the cutting edge, they are about the mechanics and story.nathan-dts said:
But they have employed a PS3 dev team, so everybody wins.
I found Valve more or less when Left 4 Dead came out. It interested me and I bought it and have enjoyed it and the updates. Portal was quite amusing too. I kinda missed Half Life when it came so I dont care about the constant buzz around the new episodes. Also, I dont have a ps3 so that matter is not my concern.
I love that they gave free-to-play weekends or beta-testing on games like DoW 2 and Team Fortress 2, which I played a lot. I am a big Warhammer 40k fan so the chance to play the new game was an awesome move from Valve. TF 2 didn't interest me though...
Via Steam I hear about new interesting games I would never had heard of without it.
Anyway, Steam has great offers and cheap prizes for games and updates just keep coming. As with the variable release times for games, I can be patient. It's not like Valve is the only company that makes games anyway. I can buy and play other games while waiting for, lets say L4D 2 or Portal 2, which I am interested in. If it seems too expensive first, I can wait until the prize drops.
Valve is a company and we should treat it like one. Valve is not our personal friend, who does cool stuff for fun. It is here to make money with a sertain business plan, which has worked with its customers, the gamers. We cant expect Valve to do everything we dream of and expect to get it like a five-year-old. Take it easy.
/rant over.
I love that they gave free-to-play weekends or beta-testing on games like DoW 2 and Team Fortress 2, which I played a lot. I am a big Warhammer 40k fan so the chance to play the new game was an awesome move from Valve. TF 2 didn't interest me though...
Via Steam I hear about new interesting games I would never had heard of without it.
Anyway, Steam has great offers and cheap prizes for games and updates just keep coming. As with the variable release times for games, I can be patient. It's not like Valve is the only company that makes games anyway. I can buy and play other games while waiting for, lets say L4D 2 or Portal 2, which I am interested in. If it seems too expensive first, I can wait until the prize drops.
Valve is a company and we should treat it like one. Valve is not our personal friend, who does cool stuff for fun. It is here to make money with a sertain business plan, which has worked with its customers, the gamers. We cant expect Valve to do everything we dream of and expect to get it like a five-year-old. Take it easy.
/rant over.
The main reason is because PS3 games are much harder to code, meanwhile the pc is much, much easier to code and seeing that the xbox360 has very similar coding pc, you can see then why they hate the PS3, well not so much the PS3 but more the coding if anything. But I see what you mean, they COULD be making more money but it would probably take alot of time to make the games on it.wrecker77 said:
Anyways, I don't mind Valve but at times I get frustrated at how long they take to make a game, off the top of my head...Half Life 2 Episode 3 for instance.
It's all love for me. They made some of the greatest games of all time and continue to support their products way after release, providing new content and updating with patches. Counter-Strike got a recent patch for it, and that game was made ages ago.
I have no idea why anyone can be angry at Valve.
I have no idea why anyone can be angry at Valve.
Very few PC game developers have a consistent record of creating games that are notoriously immersive and compelling (Portal, the Half-Life series), or that have ridiculous amounts of replay value (Team Fortress 2, Counter Strike).Xvito said:
Whatever you may think of it, the original Half-Life is the single best-selling FPS of all-time, and is considered by most of the gaming establishment to be one of the most influential games ever. It may seem tame and a bit crude by todays' standards, but then again so does Doom and StarCraft.
Really, like anything else, to some extent you had to be there to understand how special it was.