How to Forget?

[Casual Shinji]

Either report it to the police or cut your ties with these people.

It's obvious that your conscience is trying to tell you something so you should try to listen to it. Forgetting it isn't going to help.

 

[OutofMind634]

I'm sorry. I just can't stress this enough.

Address the situation.

And talking does help. A LOT. You have no clue how much human contact can help you. But once again, I can't stress this enough.

Act now, talk later.

I guess I just feel so strongly about this is because of what I said in my last post. Like I said, I've seen some bad shit and I'm angry because I can't do anything about it. But you can. Don't run from this and don't ignore it. You're in a position I can only wish I could be in. You can actually do something.

 

[iLikeHippos]

So, your goal is to simply forget?

Believe me, I have tried forgetting many things. But it didn't work, it kept rising to the fucking surface.
So I am pretty experienced in this. Or at least I find myself to be.

The only REAL way to forget about it is to deal with it, and efficiently.

If your friends have given you this conscience, Step 1 is to talk to them about how you feel like shit.
If you don't feel at ease after that, and still nervous, you have to do something about the matter of hand. This might be calling the police if this would be illegal and twisted.

Step 2 is to likely cut the bonds with those bastards for what they've done. Show you won't stand for it.
By now they might be angry at you for calling the feds anyhow.
And it's one step closer to moving forward with your life.
Also, for your own safety... Ask for a witness protection program.

Step 3. You could contact the victims or loved ones of these "inhuman" acts.
If you talk to them and still being humble, promising you have had these guilt trips for something you might not have done, if they forgive you, it can take a hefty load off of you.
Paying back and making amends really soothes the soul.

After that, you might just be feeling better and you're ready to "forget".

None of it is easy, and it might not turn out exactly like this, but you have to deal with it. It's NOT going to leave you alone. Not until you've found your answer.

 

[HateDread]

These "people" who commit it - I don't want to talk to them. I have to, to keep up my cover, to pretend I don't know what they do. I want them to rot in hell for what they do, don't worry.

I just know that if the victims cut ties with me... well... last time I reported some of it, they tried to kill themselves. And I still feel bad for that.

If I do, they'll end up mentally worse off, but if I don't, these acts will do it anyway.

Worse of all - the victims will deny it. I guarantee. They believe they're below everyone else, thanks to this, and don't wanna get these people in trouble.

It's a case of damned if I do, damned if I don't.

 

[OutofMind634]

Wow, ok this is much deeper then I thought. I don't know what else to say without knowing exactly what's happening. I'm sorry. I'm at a loss right now until I understand the situation.

 

[HateDread]

Your support is much appreciated.

Here's the kicker:

- A) Attempt to report to police. Difficult to do, as already been done. Long story - it's going to be one hell of a process. Victims WILL deny it.

- B) Contact relatives of the victim, who believe they're lying about everything they've ever said - when I reported some of the crimes, the relatives believed the person that told me was making it all up for attention.

Both ways lead to problems - both lose trust and break important confidentiality, Option A involves the right people, if it works, but it will be hard for them to act when the victim denies it. Option B leads to possible denial by the relatives, as has happened before, and no action.

I know which way sounds right, but remember, I'm the -only- person the victim tells about this - I am, through my actions, all that is keeping them sane. To stop that could hurt them more, inside, than any of these crimes.

I really don't know what to do.

 

[OutofMind634]

Alright 1: How old is the victim?
2: Is it just the one victim or are there others?
3. You said the victim tells you about it but they will deny it to anyone else. Have you considered secretly recording what the victim says so you'll have proof? Or will this just hurt the trust of the victim to a level that harms the situation?
4: How old are the people doing this and how many?

 

[HateDread]

1. <20
2. One
3. I have. But it'd destroy everything
4. Apparently +15 people, ages 16 up into the 30's.

 

[Rakkana]

Forgetting is not a good idea. Face it head on and deal with it.

 

[OutofMind634]

People who are 30 are getting in on this? Sick bastards. Ok, what kind of mental state is the victim in?

 

[sycoesis]

in my opinion if the cops are worthless then and your out of other options then you need to make those harming/what ever there doing terrified of being anywhere near you or the victim, if this isn't possible you need to remove the victim from there reach i suggest keeping him/her with you at all times staying in populated areas with security of some sort be it mall cops or what ever if need time to plan take here to the police station you don't have to go in if that would upset the victim but odds are the people wont bother you while you in sight of the building for risk of getting caught. depending on the problem you should arm yourself don't get a gun unless there using guns if its just beating or a physical assault i suggest getting a big knife or blade its intimidating and simple to use if it comes down to it. another way would be to leave, leave everything pack what you need grab what money you can and simply leave this is for the safety of someone no one else but you seems to be trying to help if there turning a blind eye they might as well be in on it to you can go to family (unless family's the problem) or friends in a different town preferably somewhere the people you going from don't know about but make sure you can trust whoever you go to. and lastly if all the above wont or cant work or doesn't fit the problem then remember this is the safety of a friend/loved one your worried about and if there's no other way you need to record/ gather proof of whats been happening and force your friend to seek refuge with the authorities even if it means they will hate you they need help and as a friend you have too help them. sorry if i rambled a bit long but i hope it helps ad i hope it gets resolved.


also on the forgetting i don't know if it will work but it works for me imagine a pitch dark room wit a single puncture letting light in then allow the hole to crack and spread and then shatter allowing all the dark memories to fall and break into dust and blow away leaving only a peaceful mind set to focus on......again don't know if it'll work but hope it helps not with the forgetting but with the dealing

 

[HateDread]

in my opinion if the cops are worthless then and your out of other options then you need to make those harming/what ever there doing terrified of being anywhere near you or the victim, if this isn't possible you need to remove the victim from there reach i suggest keeping him/her with you at all times staying in populated areas with security of some sort be it mall cops or what ever if need time to plan take here to the police station you don't have to go in if that would upset the victim but odds are the people wont bother you while you in sight of the building for risk of getting caught. depending on the problem you should arm yourself don't get a gun unless there using guns if its just beating or a physical assault i suggest getting a big knife or blade its intimidating and simple to use if it comes down to it. another way would be to leave, leave everything pack what you need grab what money you can and simply leave this is for the safety of someone no one else but you seems to be trying to help if there turning a blind eye they might as well be in on it to you can go to family (unless family's the problem) or friends in a different town preferably somewhere the people you going from don't know about but make sure you can trust whoever you go to. and lastly if all the above wont or cant work or doesn't fit the problem then remember this is the safety of a friend/loved one your worried about and if there's no other way you need to record/ gather proof of whats been happening and force your friend to seek refuge with the authorities even if it means they will hate you they need help and as a friend you have too help them. sorry if i rambled a bit long but i hope it helps ad i hope it gets resolved.


also on the forgetting i don't know if it will work but it works for me imagine a pitch dark room wit a single puncture letting light in then allow the hole to crack and spread and then shatter allowing all the dark memories to fall and break into dust and blow away leaving only a peaceful mind set to focus on......again don't know if it'll work but hope it helps not with the forgetting but with the dealing

Thank you for taking the time to write that.

I used to give up -all- my time to protect them. I was basically their bodyguard. I was ready to move 24/7. I walked them everywhere, every day. Problem is, once I made some reports, their relatives took a... disliking to me... and they went into denial about it all, blaming me. Therefore I cannot do such protection anymore.

And yes, people of all ages are in on it. I've nearly caught them in the act before. The problem is the victim has almost a split-personality - they half want to tell me, and half want to deny it ever happened. Most of the problem is their coping mechanism. In this way, I almost have to hurt them to help them.

And when I said forgetting, I didn't mean forgetting the situation. I meant forgetting the images of what happens. I would never just -forget- this and let them suffer. The only thing stopping me from opening a can of legal whoop-ass is the victim and how it would affect them.

 

[not_the_dm]

Single-malt whisky. Works every time. To oblivion...

 

[OutofMind634]

From what I've heard I'm afraid to say it but I think the only way to help the victim involves hurting them. If fixing the situation involves harming the victim and your relationship with the victim, do it. After this ordeal is over with get the victim the psychological help they need. It might be painful but at least you'll know you did what you had to to help the victim and hopefully one day the victim will realize this and thank you.
And with that said, I've done all I can. I'm pretty much useless at this point. I'm sorry but if you still need someone to talk to about this I'm still here.

EDIT: That or get them to stay with someone out of town, if that's possible

 

[Corpse XxX]

Maybe you should talk to your friends and explain the matter to them.. Or get new friends!