How to freshen up Call of Duty: Stop using Americans

[Chicago Ted]

Hey, you could always play from the prospective of a Canadia- I'm sorry, I couldn't say it with a straight face. It is never happening.

Except it has already, years ago, in a Call of Duty game no less. Not a ton of missions but point was it was there. I think it even ended the Canadian section with going to reinforce the Poles from the Polish section of the campaign.

Which game was this? I never heard about it.

Call of Duty 3

You play as the Americans, but also the British helping out the French Resistance, and also the Canadians and Polish.

 

[Gypsybob]

Perhaps we could have a war game that is the most realistic and gory war game ever. A game which doesn't glorify war but instead condemns it through its realism and story driven game play. For example it could be set in Iraq during the Iraqi war where you're can pick a soldier a country from the Multi-National force where you're on patrol and then you start hearing gunshots. Now in CoD you would all take cover and then pop up and cap their asses without a second thought but in this you would have to dive onto the ground and crawl to cover and spend quite a while taking pot-shots at insurgents all while seeing you're fellow soldiers graphically die. That'll send a message.

 

[Atmos Duality]

I would recommend a stump grinder and some mint fragrance personally.

Sorry...There's no way Activision is going to let anyone change the reigning champ's winning formula. It can stagnate until it rots off and stinks up the rest of the industry, and it wouldn't change.

 

[marurder]

Main problem is a large part of the fan base would cry havoc if their beloved cannon fodder American soldiers aren't in there shooting at something. I would like to see it from a Russian point of view, invading America, being forced to retreat and fighting in Germany and France in a story that is opposite the COD storyline. That is not meant to say on the same maps! But it would be an interesting perspective of how a Russian had to get out of Washington during the EMP in MW2 and regroup. It would serve to make some closure and flesh out the weak storyline without actually having to write new plot twists that are (stoopid) convoluted.
But I think the story needs to be better and more consistent, and not YANK the control away every 30s like it does in MW3. I found it took control a lot and very limiting compared to MW (a much better game).

 

[Mugen]

Hey, you could always play from the prospective of a Canadia- I'm sorry, I couldn't say it with a straight face. It is never happening.

Juno Beach, the Battle of Caen, and the Falaise Pocket. Leo Major liberating Zwolle alone and with one good eye. The Battle of Chosin Reservoir. CANSOFCOM and JTF2.

You think Canadians are polite and peaceful. For the most part, we are; we just don't feel the need to brag about our military and its accomplishments.

People belittle Australian military achievements, too. Also, the accent.

Siege of Tobruk anyone? Not to be that guy, but we stopped a freaking Panzer-division. That hadn't been done before.

OT - Call of Duty - Commonwealth: Combined Arms.

maybe a bit word-y, but you could play from a British, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, South African point of view.

i hear there was talk of invading Japan towards the end of the war, maybe it could involve an alternate timeline, really jazz things up?

 

[Fox242]

I always thought about a game where you play as various German soldiers, U-boatmen, Luftwaffe pilots, panzer crewmen, etc. You would start out when the Reich was at the height of its power, then you would gradually go through the downward spiral that the German warmachine went through. The final level would basically be the "Heart of the Reich" level from World at War, only from the other side obviously.

 

[Reaper195]

I actually didn't mind the American element in the third. Yeah, I'd've rather played as an actual character (With the exception of the last level. Fucks sake, Infinity Ward. Did it take you that many CoD games to fucking get it!?), but it beats the patriotic horse shit we had shovelled down our throats from the second game.

 

[Fox242]

Hey, you could always play from the prospective of a Canadia- I'm sorry, I couldn't say it with a straight face. It is never happening.

Juno Beach, the Battle of Caen, and the Falaise Pocket. Leo Major liberating Zwolle alone and with one good eye. The Battle of Chosin Reservoir. CANSOFCOM and JTF2.

You think Canadians are polite and peaceful. For the most part, we are; we just don't feel the need to brag about our military and its accomplishments.

People belittle Australian military achievements, too. Also, the accent.

Siege of Tobruk anyone? Not to be that guy, but we stopped a freaking Panzer-division. That hadn't been done before.

OT - Call of Duty - Commonwealth: Combined Arms.

maybe a bit word-y, but you could play from a British, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, South African point of view.

i hear there was talk of invading Japan towards the end of the war, maybe it could involve an alternate timeline, really jazz things up?

That'd be good. I've always wanted to see any sort of fiction where Operation: Downfall actually took place and a Call of Duty game based on it would be fantastic.

 

[GonvilleBromhead]

Hey, you could always play from the prospective of a Canadia- I'm sorry, I couldn't say it with a straight face. It is never happening.

Juno Beach, the Battle of Caen, and the Falaise Pocket. Leo Major liberating Zwolle alone and with one good eye. The Battle of Chosin Reservoir. CANSOFCOM and JTF2.

You think Canadians are polite and peaceful. For the most part, we are; we just don't feel the need to brag about our military and its accomplishments.

People belittle Australian military achievements, too. Also, the accent.

Siege of Tobruk anyone? Not to be that guy, but we stopped a freaking Panzer-division. That hadn't been done before.

OT - Call of Duty - Commonwealth: Combined Arms.

maybe a bit word-y, but you could play from a British, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, South African point of view.

i hear there was talk of invading Japan towards the end of the war, maybe it could involve an alternate timeline, really jazz things up?

Well, the Canadian Corps and the ANZAC were considered elite in the First World War, by absolutely everyone, and I for one do not dispute this

 

[D-Ray]

well, COD MW3 is following a story line that was started in the first one. So, there's no reason to jump around all the world's different views to please everyone. That's Battlefield's job.

 

[Nyaoku]

I gotta idea. How about you start off as an 11yr old in Vietnam during that war. You get kidnapped and forced into the militia after seeing your family/friends gunned down during the raid. The man who executes your parents is the commanding officer of the group who, while you're forced through "training" becomes a leading general who you seek out for revenge. You have to pretend to be fighting for the militia, doing gorilla-style warefare through the jungle,trenches,etc while you secretly move from battle to battle amidst the confusion untill you locate him and take him out near the end of the war. Thoughts?

 

[Jewrean]

But that's just my opinion. What do you think?

I couldn't agree more. America is a failing empire in real life. I've got no problem with American people in general but I'm quite sick of the arrogance that they portray in the media, hollywood, and video games.

Admittedly they are doing what is safe, because the last thing an American male teenager wants to do is pretend to be a French or German person (because they are selfish twats that only care about themselves and jerking off).

WW2 game from the Axis perspective.

Think about it.

I've been saying this for years and I'm glad someone else agrees. Yay! It should show it from a Nazi Youth who was peer pressured into joining the Nazis but eventually decides (after seeing a concentration camp) that morally he should join the allies (note: not the Americans... the ALLIES).

 

[rofltehcat]

French army! just think of the Parkour possibilities!

http://9gag.com/gag/1793165

Other than that maybe a game where you are a guerilla fighter? In all the games you are basically playing the faction with superior technology, superior numbers and seemingly the only army with bulletproof wests.
Guerilla warfare would turn that completely around. Would also make stealth gameplay possible.

 

[Akimoto]

I'm one of those weirdos that bought MW3 and only played the singleplayer. On the whole I found it fun (even though it suffers from the same infuriating problems as its predecessors), but one thing really ticked me off.

I have found a like-minded person! Urrah!

I loved World at War because I spent half the story, and the finale, as a Russian soldier. Not a damned American.

Yes yes yes! For the love of Pete and for God's sake, stop using Americans/Brits all the time. Have some Asians or at the very least, Russians.

Russian finds out conspiracy in Russia, traces to Asia and stops corrupt American/Brit.

And STOP switching between characters, it prevents the player from growing onto the guy.

 

[Thyunda]

I'm one of those weirdos that bought MW3 and only played the singleplayer. On the whole I found it fun (even though it suffers from the same infuriating problems as its predecessors), but one thing really ticked me off.

I have found a like-minded person! Urrah!

I loved World at War because I spent half the story, and the finale, as a Russian soldier. Not a damned American.

Yes yes yes! For the love of Pete and for God's sake, stop using Americans/Brits all the time. Have some Asians or at the very least, Russians.

Russian finds out conspiracy in Russia, traces to Asia and stops corrupt American/Brit.

And STOP switching between characters, it prevents the player from growing onto the guy.

Gotta disagree on two counts. 1. I'd appreciate some actual English characters - not the internationally-vague Soap and Price. Well, they USED to be British. Till Task Force 141. Now the only British about them is their accent.

2. I like the varied characters. Except for playing as 'Burns' for one mission. Dmitri became a favourite character..possibly more memorable than the others because the Marine guy was all 'hoo rah' and 'badass', whereas Dmitri went through some serious shit, and remained resolute. Plus, he did more dramatic stuff than any other CoD character. Ever.

 

[Westaway]

Hey, you could always play from the prospective of a Canadia- I'm sorry, I couldn't say it with a straight face. It is never happening.

Except it has already, years ago, in a Call of Duty game no less. Not a ton of missions but point was it was there. I think it even ended the Canadian section with going to reinforce the Poles from the Polish section of the campaign.

Which game was this? I never heard about it.

Call of Duty 3, the big bad one. Yeah, you play a mute Canadian, but the game was really awful. Treyarch have a hard time making games.

 

[Black Arrow Officer]

It would be interesting to see a battle from a "last legs" perspective rather than another "America fuck yeah!" terrorist/Nazi/Russian massacre. A German perspective would be the best in my opinion. Defending Berlin from the Red Army? Sieging Stalingrad, perhaps even going on a "black ops" mission to eliminate the Soviet commander? Would be pretty badass.

 

[Skin]

If you played as the bad guys, what would the missions be like? Go murder and burn the Jew children for the Nazis? Blow yourself up in the name of Allah? The mainstream media masturbates to the idea that a game like this would pop up.

Or it could show the lay-man such as yourself that not all German's were Nazi's, just how US soldiers aren't all redneck 'publican's who want to kill them evil EYERACKEES to protect good old capitalism.

As such it could show that there is no right or wrong, but only winners and losers. And since CoD likes killing the player off so much, there is no problem.

 

[General Vengeance]

1984

Three perpetually warring totalitarian super-states control the world.

Oceania (ideology: Ingsoc, i.e., English Socialism) comprises Great Britain, Ireland, Australia, Polynesia, southern Africa, and the Americas.

Eurasia (ideology: Neo-Bolshevism) comprises continental Europe and northern Asia.

Eastasia (ideology: Obliteration of the Self, i.e., "Death worship") comprises China, Japan, Korea, and northern India.

 

[Talshere]

WW2 game from the Axis perspective.

Think about it.

Good idea but would need to be carefully handled. At the end of the day, a game that gets you to murder hundreds of innocents could be genuinely compelling if done properly, it would require you to have a true introspective look that the potential ramifications of the average job solider should they wish to stop the slaughter. How much are they told? Were they told the truth? Its could be explored in interesting way not in the lest because we all KNOW the truth behind the situation and ultimately what is happening.

As I say though, it would need a delicate though which quite frankly I dont think any of the current FPS devs are up for. Can you seriously imagine Infinity Ward handling this material with the delicacy required to make it truly compelling? Trayarch "MIGHT" be able to be trusted but quite frankly I wouldnt bet on it, nor would I put it in the hands of EA and the DICE guys.

If I were seriously looking at something like this, Id be courting someone like Bioware because ultimate to make it something other than an attempted justification and trivialisation of one of the most horrific acts in human history it would have to be story driven, you would have to genuinely connect with the Axis soldiers you were fighting with, no mean feet considering more or less the entire world is predisposed to hate them is a blind unreasoning passion.