How to freshen up Call of Duty: Stop using Americans

[him over there]

Simple solution to both add variety and fill the required "insert controversy here" event as well as make the campaign substantial, just make a world war two Call of Duty that attempts to tastefully and explicitly reference and pay respect to those that were killed in the holocaust, offering a legitimately realistic and emotional experience. Of course Something with this much baggage and no room for error will probably drive off the high school hardcore gamer demographic and I doubt any of the past CoD devs have the finesse and taste to pull it off. So you don't exactly have to get rid of Americans, just stop shoving the "America is Super awesome Fuck Yeah!" Attitude in an international markets face.

 

[OneOfTheMichael's]

Hey, you could always play from the prospective of a Canadia- I'm sorry, I couldn't say it with a straight face. It is never happening.

Juno Beach, the Battle of Caen, and the Falaise Pocket. Leo Major liberating Zwolle alone and with one good eye. The Battle of Chosin Reservoir. CANSOFCOM and JTF2.

You think Canadians are polite and peaceful. For the most part, we are; we just don't feel the need to brag about our military and its accomplishments.

Thank for you giving us those examples of great moments in history were canadians fought bravely for their country and contain peace internationally.

OT: But I totally agree that playing as a american in all the CoD games, gets tiring and I would LOVE to have played as anyone but the american.
Also my favourite mission is the russian one just because it gives perspective.

 

[Wintermoot]

the fans are probably going to call it "unpatriotic".

 

[TehCookie]

You could always play other games for a while. I don't know how anyone could play the same game all the time. Take a break and play something else and come back to it later.

 

[Korten12]

Hey, you could always play from the prospective of a Canadia- I'm sorry, I couldn't say it with a straight face. It is never happening.

Juno Beach, the Battle of Caen, and the Falaise Pocket. Leo Major liberating Zwolle alone and with one good eye. The Battle of Chosin Reservoir. CANSOFCOM and JTF2.

You think Canadians are polite and peaceful. For the most part, we are; we just don't feel the need to brag about our military and its accomplishments.

Thank for you giving us those examples of great moments in history were canadians fought bravely for their country and contain peace internationally.

OT: But I totally agree that playing as a american in all the CoD games, gets tiring and I would LOVE to have played as anyone but the american.
Also my favourite mission is the russian one just because it gives perspective.

You know that in MW3 you control mostly British and Russian Soldiers? Sure a couple of missions you control the american Frost, but mostly it's either Soap, Yuri, or Price.

Did anyone here actually play MW3? B/c they seem to act like you play Americans 100% of the time.

Out of the games 18 missions, you control Americans 5 times! 5! That means you have 13 or so where you not. 12 if you decide to count the short one where you control the man with his family.

 

[Jewrean]

Admittedly they are doing what is safe, because the last thing an American male teenager wants to do is pretend to be a French or German person (because they are selfish twats that only care about themselves and jerking off).

Excuse me? Where did you get this logic?

It's not logic and it's not true either. But it's how game developers see the market and how to make money. Why else would they employ such a cliche stratedgy over and over again?

 

[Korten12]

I also want to ask, how many of you actually know that Modern Warfare takes place in an alternate timeline? Did anyone know..?

Yeah after the Chernobyl disater of 1986, it's history diverge. That's why what seems like impossible today are possible in it. Such as the Russians attacking the US. Though I will say somethings still don't make sense. But it makes it make a bit more sense.

 

[the clockmaker]

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*Applause*. Yes, that would be a fantastic game. But like someone said earlier, I wouldn't trust Infinity Ward or Dice with such a task. How about those guys who made Metro 2033? They made a SP focused game that was excellent. I am sure they can do it again.

Also, the dialogue of the game is spoken in Russian and German with subtitles. Gives it that real authentic feeling.

The dialog would have to be in their native language, because that would help in defining the people that you fight with as 'other' and 'alien' the second that you start playing on the other side. While you are russian, the germans have no subtitles and vise verca. The whole point is to try and force the player through seeing that seeing the numberless mooks that they kill as being reasoning human beings, while at the same time forceing them to experiance the disconect with the hostile 'other' that soldiers feel during war time.

 

[backinthepresentfuture]

i'm quite certain nothing will freshen something thats dead and rotted away, with it's grave filled to the brim with shit and a fat kid called activision squishing it all down.

 

[Cronq]

They should make a World War game where you play as the Swiss!!

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

If you played as the bad guys, what would the missions be like? Go murder and burn the Jew children for the Nazis? Blow yourself up in the name of Allah? The mainstream media masturbates to the idea that a game like this would pop up.

........you really think nazi soldier=gestapo? Are you serious? Does American soldier=Abu Ghraib prison guard? smh

 

[Dawns Gate]

I think a game where your a UN peacekeeper in some hellhole (I'll just use Canadians in Bosnia/Croatia because I know that stuff pretty well) and you have to search for weapons cache's, bluff through barricades, drive under fire through enemy checkpoints to help your bleeding-out friend, deal with the overall f'ed up situation without committing suicide, and every once in a while get in a nasty and brutal battle such as Medak Pocket, the Vandoo's defense of their 'citadel' from german mercenaries, or the capture of the Sarajevo airport.

I think, if done properly could tell a deep and epic story with lots of fast paced action scene's too.

 

[TheCorpseMan99]

Leave it to forum posters on the Escapist to harsh on Americans. Come on guys, the already thick U.K. bias is enough.

 

[Hal10k]

WW2 game from the Axis perspective.

Think about it.

There are plenty of strategy games, if you count those. The Panzer General series comes to mind.

 

[TheOneBearded]

If you played as the bad guys, what would the missions be like? Go murder and burn the Jew children for the Nazis? Blow yourself up in the name of Allah? The mainstream media masturbates to the idea that a game like this would pop up.

or how about do it from the side of the Axis or the talliban but show what it was really like.

That is what some of the Axis soldiers did. Not too long ago, I was watching this documentary on WW2 and in it the Nazis massacred a whole town of people; including children. Then, they just piled them up in the town square. I'm not too familiar with the rest of the actions done by the Axis as a whole, but I do know what the Germans did and they were bad.

 

[TheOneBearded]

If you played as the bad guys, what would the missions be like? Go murder and burn the Jew children for the Nazis? Blow yourself up in the name of Allah? The mainstream media masturbates to the idea that a game like this would pop up.

........you really think nazi soldier=gestapo? Are you serious? Does American soldier=Abu Ghraib prison guard? smh

True, not all Nazis were evil - they were just doing their job. However, there is a difference between doing your job and going overboard with it. It doesn't matter if you are a grunt or Hitler's right hand soldiers, if you went overboard and felt good about it, you are a sick person.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

If you played as the bad guys, what would the missions be like? Go murder and burn the Jew children for the Nazis? Blow yourself up in the name of Allah? The mainstream media masturbates to the idea that a game like this would pop up.

........you really think nazi soldier=gestapo? Are you serious? Does American soldier=Abu Ghraib prison guard? smh

True, not all Nazis were evil - they were just doing their job. However, there is a difference between doing your job and going overboard with it. It doesn't matter if you are a grunt or Hitler's right hand soldiers, if you went overboard and felt good about it, you are a sick person.

you still seem to be suggesting that all nazi soldiers had something to do with the Holocaust, which is utter bullsh*t. I don't know why you care how German soldiers on the French beaches felt when they were fighting the Allies.

 

[TheOneBearded]

If you played as the bad guys, what would the missions be like? Go murder and burn the Jew children for the Nazis? Blow yourself up in the name of Allah? The mainstream media masturbates to the idea that a game like this would pop up.

Or it could show the lay-man such as yourself that not all German's were Nazi's, just how US soldiers aren't all redneck 'publican's who want to kill them evil EYERACKEES to protect good old capitalism.

As such it could show that there is no right or wrong, but only winners and losers. And since CoD likes killing the player off so much, there is no problem.

I know that some Germans weren't in the Nazi mentality and were just simply doing their job and that, in war, there isn't a "right" body. All they (the involved countries) are doing is protecting something by killing other people, whether that something be an ideal or a resource.

Yes, it would show that, in war, there isn't a right or wrong, but do you really think the mainstream media [some who go apeshit over the excessive use of the word "*****" in Batman:Arkham City (which wasn't that much)] is ready to deal with a game like that? They can barely stomach the current Call of Duty games!