How to make Sonic games better

[windfish]

And they should stop making more, and more new characters, re-use some old ones like Metal Sonic.

I agree. There are way, way too many playable characters in the Sonic series at the moment. Get back to Sonic, Tails (please no mech. Let him fly) and Knuckles. Give Sonic 2-2.5D speed rush games, give knuckles the free-roaming action/adventure levels (but please, please, something that's not just a boring scavenger hunt) and let Tails be Tails. If possible, get some of that old Sonic 2 action going. With actual co-op - not the Sonic Heroes bizarre trinity system.

Also, go back to referring to Robotnik as Robotnik. Eggman just isn't threatening.

Oh, and stop with the "OMG EPIC STORYLINES AND WORLD-SHATTERING PLOTS!" -it's kind of a ridiculous premise for a game about an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog. Handle small plots that center around some preventing shenanigans by reasonable enemies who just want to "take over the world." You know, something small. Not "awaken an ancient evil which opens one of its six mouths to sing the song that ends the earth." I like the concept of the story-book series.

I actually think Sonic Unleashed is going to be really, really good. The werehog levels will be a fine change of pace, if they get the camera and execution down. As long as they don't outlast the actual Sonic Sonic levels. The best thing they could do with a sonic game, though, is make a reboot. A reboot which forgets everything since SA1, or even Sonic 3. Or just a straight-up reboot.

Please. Shadow the Hedgehog is dead. He had a good death. Bringing him back was like bringing back Barbossa in Pirates of the Caribbean. Bad idea.

 

[Aoi Denkou]

Okay, I said that they should stop making new characters, though there are a few that are good.
I liked Shadow, he, and he alone, could use Chaos Control, then they started giveing the power to EVERY character under the sun.
Blaze was also very good.
I liked that they re-used the Chaotix (or at least some of them) in Sonic Heroes.
But Sonic 06 was, the main problem, okay Sonic 06 and Shadow the Hedgehog.
Sonic + Guns = TERRIBLE GAME
Sonic 06 brought so many new characters, it was just unbearable.
Silver = Bad
Mephiles = Bad
Iblis = Bad
Solaris = Bad (Sucks as a last boss)

 

[Fraught]

Make the new Sonic game like Starfox, only the ship would be Sonic, you would be running, it would have better graphics, it wouldn't have the toad, you were at high speed, and there were more obstacles and a lot of those rings.

I mean, Sonic isn't a platformer guy, jumping around. Plus, it makes new Sonic games just another totally-average platformer.

Make Sonic run, run the whole game, then, it will be truly a masterpiece.

 

[Amnestic]

Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine was the best Sonic game of them all. It didn't have Sonic in it at all.

;D

 

[Aoi Denkou]

I mean, Sonic isn't a platformer guy, jumping around. Plus, it makes new Sonic games just another totally-average platformer.

Make Sonic run, run the whole game, then, it will be truly a masterpiece.

That's what the Secret Rings was.
Sonic stages in Unleashed seem to fit that as well.
And what do mean "Sonic isn't a platformer guy"? All Sonic 1,2,and 3 were platformers, platformers with speed.

 

[Fraught]

I mean, Sonic isn't a platformer guy, jumping around. Plus, it makes new Sonic games just another totally-average platformer.

Make Sonic run, run the whole game, then, it will be truly a masterpiece.

That's what the Secret Rings was.
Sonic stages in Unleashed seem to fit that as well.
And what do mean "Sonic isn't a platformer guy"? All Sonic 1,2,and 3 were platformers, platformers with speed.

I mean, look at the new Sonic (or was it Unleashed?) game. Sonic is climbing up ledges, and walking on ropes to get across gaps. That is NOT Sonic.

 

[Aoi Denkou]

I haven't seen any tight-rope walking or ledge-climbing in either.
Sonic did use ropes as spring-jumps in Sonic 06, if that's what you mean.

 

[Fraught]

I haven't seen any tight-rope walking or ledge-climbing in either.
Sonic did use ropes as spring-jumps in Sonic 06, if that's what you mean.

I remember seeing rope-walking and ledge-climbing in a Sonic game that was showed in GameSpot's On The Spot.

 

[Aoi Denkou]

I don't remember any sonic game having rope-walking, and the only game that had ledge climbing was Sonic Adventure 2.

 

[Exodia's Right Leg]

Make the new Sonic game like Starfox, only the ship would be Sonic, you would be running, it would have better graphics, it wouldn't have the toad, you were at high speed, and there were more obstacles and a lot of those rings.

I mean, Sonic isn't a platformer guy, jumping around. Plus, it makes new Sonic games just another totally-average platformer.

Make Sonic run, run the whole game, then, it will be truly a masterpiece.

Short story: make Sonic and The Secret Rings.

 

[weirdaljedifan2]

Make the new Sonic game like Starfox, only the ship would be Sonic, you would be running, it would have better graphics, it wouldn't have the toad, you were at high speed, and there were more obstacles and a lot of those rings.

I mean, Sonic isn't a platformer guy,

uh... what? Have you even PLAYED the original SEGA Genesis games?

 

[GloatingSwine]

I mean, Sonic isn't a platformer guy, jumping around. Plus, it makes new Sonic games just another totally-average platformer.

Make Sonic run, run the whole game, then, it will be truly a masterpiece.

That's rather the problem though. Sonic is a platformer guy. He used to be a very good platformer guy. And then all this "durr run faster" bullshit started taking over the series, and all of a sudden we have Sonic 06 (no, it wasn't the plot that was the problem, it was the shit controls and shit level design).

Bring back the technical platforming, the exploration of levels with mulitple paths through them, and keep the speed freakery to the special stages where you can build a play style around it properly without making a shallow rubbish game.

 

[gamebrain89]

I enjoyed sonic chronicles, great game. And I agree, cream is really useful, especially with the chao that skips the little button tapping sequences.

However I have 1 MAJOR complaint with all the newer sonic games. His name is ROBOTNIK! I grew up on the genesis games, and as far as I remember they always refered to him as Robotnik in the user manuals. I f^*#ing hate it when he is called eggman,sue me.

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Also, go back to referring to Robotnik as Robotnik. Eggman just isn't threatening.

Exactly my point, sorry I didn't see it before I posted

 

[Aoi Denkou]

However I have 1 MAJOR complaint with all the newer sonic games. His name is ROBOTNIK! I grew up on the genesis games, and as far as I remember they always refered to him as Robotnik in the user manuals. I f^*#ing hate it when he is called eggman,sue me.

I've heard much controversy on this subject, so I'll say it like it is, Robotnik was the American name for the character. He has always been known as Eggman in Japan, ever since Sonic 1.
The internet is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

 

[gamebrain89]

However I have 1 MAJOR complaint with all the newer sonic games. His name is ROBOTNIK! I grew up on the genesis games, and as far as I remember they always refered to him as Robotnik in the user manuals. I f^*#ing hate it when he is called eggman,sue me.

I've heard much controversy on this subject, so I'll say it like it is, Robotnik was the American name for the character. He has always been known as Eggman in Japan, ever since Sonic 1.
The internet is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

So why stop localizing it? and Sonic Chronicles treats Eggman as a nickname, and Robotnik as his real last name. Thought that was interesting.

 

[Aoi Denkou]

Well I haven't played the game, and I really don't care what you call him, Eggman or Robotnik, we all know who he is.

 

[weirdaljedifan2]

However I have 1 MAJOR complaint with all the newer sonic games. His name is ROBOTNIK! I grew up on the genesis games, and as far as I remember they always refered to him as Robotnik in the user manuals. I f^*#ing hate it when he is called eggman,sue me.

I've heard much controversy on this subject, so I'll say it like it is, Robotnik was the American name for the character. He has always been known as Eggman in Japan, ever since Sonic 1.
The internet is a wonderful thing, isn't it?

So why stop localizing it? and Sonic Chronicles treats Eggman as a nickname, and Robotnik as his real last name. Thought that was interesting.

I noticed that to, I actually liked it being treated as a nickname. He actually called himself Robotnik, that is cool.

 

[The Ghost]

Sonic needs to be 2D. Or at least 3D in as much as Street Fighter IV. 3D Models on a 2D plane would be fine.

Sonic has never worked in 3D. Not a single 3D Sonic game is as good as Sonic 2.

as much as all of us crazy idealists would love love a new 2-d sonic game on consoles, the sonic series as already crossed the line into the 3-d world and had the door slammed shut and locked for eternity. So we can all pretend that the new sonic console games might actually be fun or go crying back to our Nintendo DSes. Unfortunately this solution will not be permanent. The question you have to ask yourself though is what more can you do with 2-d graphics. Gameplay is greatly limited and although it can be extremely fun to have a mindless sidescrolling woodland creature go around killing robots to save little animals from an evil fat man, I want a new game not just an expansion pack. The obvious solution to this is give up on the sonic games, constantly make sequels for sonic adventure and rely on the fanboys for profit, and try to make a new game with original ideas.

 

[Blazing Angel]

Although I really(and I emphasize heavily on the really)they do need to stop with the new characters and the really should dig up the old ones from their nameless graves(Except Silver he pwns all!)