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Kaymish

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or do what some PC enthusiasts do and install a phase change cooling system (or some other sort of cooling modification) its a bit louder than normal and it voids the warranty but you wont have over heating problems
 

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LWS666 said:
when you turn the box off, the heat doesn't just magicly dissapear. it'll hang around for a bit, and won't escape if there's a disc. plus, you've probably noticed your discs getting scratched for no reason? it's because of this.
Just because it doesnt instantly dissapear does NOT mean it's causing the processor damage! As soon as the power is cut the chip'll stop producing heat, thus even with the fans off the temperature does not increase, even with poor ventilation it'll cool at a steady rate.
If your theory was correct then you're more likely to kill the 360 through normal use then leaving it idle with a disk in the drive.

The only way you're likely to kill a CPU through heat is if you're overclocking (badly) or have seated the heatsink poorly, those things can take fairly stupid temperatures anyway. Or doing something stupid like covering vents while powered on, obviously.
 

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Yeah, gotta call BS on this one. For this to be effective, you'd have to leave the tray open, otherwise it's still closed and no heat is going to go that way. Plus, that's what the giant heat pipe and fans are for in the back of the case: to get heat out that way. Oh, and to prevent the RROD, get a newer 360 with the best chipset.

Also, how does heat not getting out scratch my discs? I could see if it the 360 was melting discs, maybe, but scratching? Calling BS again. Put your 360 laying horizontally, and leave it alone when it's reading a disc (360 =/= Wiimote, don't pick it up and wave it around) and you should have no scratched discs. I know I don't have any.
 

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"One possible cause of the General Hardware Error may be cold solder joints. The added mass of the CSP chips (including the GPU and CPU) absorb the heat flow that allows proper soldering of the lead-free solders on the motherboard, therefore, the solder has not properly melted underneath these chips, which can lead to voids (air bubbles) and weak spots in the solder known as cold solder joints. Because of prolonged constant temperature changes inside the console, the voids cause cracking."

Above Taken from Good Old Wikipedia

Furthermore, with regard to scratched disks, its because the 360 has no mechanism to secure the disk in the drive. so moving your console around with a disk inside will literally "fuck it up" my good man.
 

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mjc0961 said:
Also, how does heat not getting out scratch my discs? I could see if it the 360 was melting discs, maybe, but scratching? Calling BS again. Put your 360 laying horizontally, and leave it alone when it's reading a disc (360 =/= Wiimote, don't pick it up and wave it around) and you should have no scratched discs. I know I don't have any.
Likewise, always leave my discs inside and have never found any unexpected scratches.

This thread is pure speculation stated as fact.
 

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I'm I the only one bold enough to ask how the OP would logically defend this claim?

Why on earth would a disc being in the console while it's turned off harm the console? No, how COULD it?

Note that I'm not saying that it couldn't. I just don't see how it could. Enlighten me if you can... Just sounds a bit farfetched to me.
 

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LWS666 said:
so, i recently found out that, the main reason the 360 RRoDs is because there's a game disc in the drive when it's off. it also scratches the disc. this is because when it's on the fan keeps the heat away from the prosessor. when it's off the heat i meant to escape through the disc drive, but a disc will prevent that and keep the heat in ruining the 360 and disc.

just wanted everyone to know.
Source? Otherwise i'll put this down to speculation or theory. I've had several RROD's & I remove the discs from my console. Care to explain that?

EDIT: Screw being as polite as I was. OP I'm calling you out on Bullshit
 

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Best way to not get RROD is to not have an Xbox, it's just a design flaw that was made somewhat better by the Jasper (I think) motherboards.
 

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meh, I thought it was because the circuit boards warped if they got too hot and it breaks the connections.

plus I always turn off my 360 once I've taken the disc out and I got two RRoDs
 

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actually thr rrod is caused by overheating. ive found that the best way to prevent this is to rip any game that you are currently playing to the hard drive.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
My steps that have so far worked on a three year old 360:

Keep it elevated, away from carpets and horizontal. (I use a stack of 8 VHS cassettes)

Keep it away from the wall behind it.

Keep all vents free, none covered.

Switch off and let cool down every 2 hours or so.

So far, so good.
I do exactly the same, right down to keeping it elevated on a stack of VHS tapes (2x8).

I thought I was being a bit strange keeping my 360 on a stack of tapes, so I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who does it.

They may be an obsolete medium, but those old VHS tapes still have their uses.
 

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Rancid0ffspring said:
LWS666 said:
so, i recently found out that, the main reason the 360 RRoDs is because there's a game disc in the drive when it's off. it also scratches the disc. this is because when it's on the fan keeps the heat away from the prosessor. when it's off the heat i meant to escape through the disc drive, but a disc will prevent that and keep the heat in ruining the 360 and disc.

just wanted everyone to know.
Source? Otherwise i'll put this down to speculation or theory. I've had several RROD's & I remove the discs from my console. Care to explain that?

EDIT: Screw being as polite as I was. OP I'm calling you out on Bullshit
okay, i forgot where i heard this and it was about a year ago. the reason i said i heard about it recently is because it was shorter than saying "i heard about this a year and a bit ago and just got the idea to put this up". besides, it can't hurt.
 

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The best way to avoid RRoD in a 360 is to buy the newer models with the Jasper in them. The Jasper chip has been able to drastically reduce the failure rate of the 360's.

Too bad Microsoft were too dumbshit to just put Jaspers in them in the first place...
Oh well.
 

MiracleOfSound

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Jamash said:
MiracleOfSound said:
My steps that have so far worked on a three year old 360:

Keep it elevated, away from carpets and horizontal. (I use a stack of 8 VHS cassettes)

Keep it away from the wall behind it.

Keep all vents free, none covered.

Switch off and let cool down every 2 hours or so.

So far, so good.
I do exactly the same, right down to keeping it elevated on a stack of VHS tapes (2x8).

I thought I was being a bit strange keeping my 360 on a stack of tapes, so I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who does it.

They may be an obsolete medium, but those old VHS tapes still have their uses.
Ha glad someone else had the same idea...

Thing about VHS is they're just the right size to hold the 360 and not cover up the vents on the underside.

I could never part with my old copies of Terminator 2 and Aliens anyway, I'm glad I found a use for them :)
 

SeanthePsycho

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This isn't necessarily true. I owned a 360 for two years and kept the disc in the tray when the console was off and only got red ringed once last summer which I think was due in part to leaving my 360 in a bag in my car on a two hour road trip before I got to my friends house, and then played 360 for another few hours to get RRoD.

I don't think there is a definitive way to prevent it. Almost everyone I know that owns a 360 has been Red Ringed at least once and the various methods encompassing its prevention may not actually work, like wrapping the towel around it to let it keep cool, or whatever the method was.

I miss the good old days where you could just solve all the problems of a vdieo game by simply blowing into the cartridge.
 

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Darkness62 said:
sidereal_day said:
I don't get it. Do you think your FAILbox joke is clever or something? You said several times, as if each time it got funnier and funnier.
Not to butthurt FAILBox fanbois such as yourself... That is probably all you saw as well, no idea about anything else I was talking about right? Hell you probably paid $300 + for one of these PoS, no wonder it hurt your feelings. XD
I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm in no way an Xbox fanboy. If anything, I'm a PC gamer. I just wanted to point out how juvenile your little quip was and that it wasn't nearly as clever as you thought.
 

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Jamash said:
MiracleOfSound said:
My steps that have so far worked on a three year old 360:

Keep it elevated, away from carpets and horizontal. (I use a stack of 8 VHS cassettes)

Keep it away from the wall behind it.

Keep all vents free, none covered.

Switch off and let cool down every 2 hours or so.

So far, so good.
I do exactly the same, right down to keeping it elevated on a stack of VHS tapes (2x8).

I thought I was being a bit strange keeping my 360 on a stack of tapes, so I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who does it.

They may be an obsolete medium, but those old VHS tapes still have their uses.
I do it too, only I use four music cds.