oh its you......stinkychops said:Can you tell me a fight scene between a man and woman in an action movie where the woman loses?Vault101 said:for some reason Ive lost interest in comic book movies...thecoreyhlltt said:i went and saw THOR, deffinately a must see for anyone and everyone...
also I think Ive become some sort of angry feminist because all I can think about when it comes to thor is....well THOR going around doing manley fighting things while his love interest probably gets kidnapped eventually (not saying shes not a strong charachter or anything...she could be)
Not saying its a bad film its probley great (I havnt seen it) but yeah...mabye after watching films Ive just grown tired of Men having all the fun...
An advertisement where the man isn't the butt of the joke in a male-female relationship?
"Highschool musical 3, shrek 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean"
Never seen HSM but shrek and POTC both contain examples of (some might say) excessive female-gender role subversion.
Why can't a man's motivation be protecting someone he loves?
As for me, had a wicked night.
I hate your damn aunt and I've interacted with her all but 2 times -.-Con Carne said:It was my cousins 21st birthday. A small group came to my house to drink before going out to the bar so we wouldn't spend as much when we went out. Shortly after, he got drunk right quick and started throwing up, so my brother practically carried him home. My cousins mom who is a bit of a Holy Roller, found out. She came over and she was pissed. So all in all, I'd say it was a good night. lol Happy Birthday to him.
debate about Male masculinity? or was that somone else?stinkychops said:Have we met before?Vault101 said:oh its you......stinkychops said:Can you tell me a fight scene between a man and woman in an action movie where the woman loses?Vault101 said:for some reason Ive lost interest in comic book movies...thecoreyhlltt said:i went and saw THOR, deffinately a must see for anyone and everyone...
also I think Ive become some sort of angry feminist because all I can think about when it comes to thor is....well THOR going around doing manley fighting things while his love interest probably gets kidnapped eventually (not saying shes not a strong charachter or anything...she could be)
Not saying its a bad film its probley great (I havnt seen it) but yeah...mabye after watching films Ive just grown tired of Men having all the fun...
An advertisement where the man isn't the butt of the joke in a male-female relationship?
"Highschool musical 3, shrek 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean"
Never seen HSM but shrek and POTC both contain examples of (some might say) excessive female-gender role subversion.
Why can't a man's motivation be protecting someone he loves?
As for me, had a wicked night.
I wasnt critcizing anything....plus the whole "counter argument" thing I dont think does much for eather sides of the debate plus thats being a little defensive...anyway allow to to share my veiw
those are all annoying double standards yes, its true that both genders are subject to double standards..Im aware of this
also as you pointed out "a fight between a man and women..woman always wins" you say that like I would think its a good thing? its not in fact its a bad thing because the girl is never going to lose because the idea of "hitting a girl" is still taboo, therefore she eather pulls some kind of kung fu and will never get a scratch....OR she'll simply only fight the oppoasing female which is even worse
thats why I love kill bill ,it subverts all that, the bride gets bashed and takes and gives out all kinds of beatings...she's EAQUEL
also the "man being the butt of the joke" in relationships is also annoying for both genders, because if you want to look at it one way it shows that men just want to do fun crazy things while the woman is a joyless shrew who wants him to "settle down and have kids" OR it shows that most men are imature man children
anyway in regards to thor...it was just a feeling I had as to why Im so "meh" when it comes to action/comic book movies...sure like a few years ago I would have been liek OMG THOR!! AWSOME!!
but now for some reason I notice gender/ double standards more and it botheres more...not that I cant enjoy such films...but Im less likeley to bother with them in the first place (depending on the film of coarse...)
I think I get my action fix from Videogames nowdays anyway..and leave the drama and storys for films
EDIT: just to make it clear I wasnt criticizing POTC or HSM or shrek about gender roles..completley seperate matter
My problem is that there are plenty of movies where women are the action heroes, or kick ass.
Suckerpunch just came out. It seems that some people just take issue with any positive representation of men.
Thor's mum slices a dude in half and it has a female shield-maiden with actual adequate armour covering pulling some cool stunts. Don't judge before you've seen it.Vault101 said:for some reason Ive lost interest in comic book movies...thecoreyhlltt said:i went and saw THOR, deffinately a must see for anyone and everyone...
also I think Ive become some sort of angry feminist because all I can think about when it comes to thor is....well THOR going around doing manley fighting things while his love interest probably gets kidnapped eventually (not saying shes not a strong charachter or anything...she could be)
Not saying its a bad film its probley great (I havnt seen it) but yeah...mabye after watching films Ive just grown tired of Men having all the fun...
Really? that sounds awsome!Cowabungaa said:Thor's mum slices a dude in half and it has a female shield-maiden with actual adequate armour covering pulling some cool stunts. Don't judge before you've seen it.Vault101 said:for some reason Ive lost interest in comic book movies...thecoreyhlltt said:i went and saw THOR, deffinately a must see for anyone and everyone...
also I think Ive become some sort of angry feminist because all I can think about when it comes to thor is....well THOR going around doing manley fighting things while his love interest probably gets kidnapped eventually (not saying shes not a strong charachter or anything...she could be)
Not saying its a bad film its probley great (I havnt seen it) but yeah...mabye after watching films Ive just grown tired of Men having all the fun...
No need for so much QQ, just relax and enjoy the show. Being an 'angry feminist' is absolutely pointless. Not to mention silly, and you don't make friends with it either.
Sounds awesome and is awesome.Vault101 said:Really? that sounds awsome!
QQ?...anyway im not actually an angry feminist and mabye its not even the feminism thing I just feel so "meh" towards such films now, even though as I said a few years ago I would have been like OMG THOR AWSOME!!!! I dont really know why
also I think because of reading so much TV tropes I notice even the more subtle double standards in alot of things
I think comic book movies in particualr actually...I mean over the years theres been so many great ones like spider man, Dark knight ,Iron man and many moreCowabungaa said:Sounds awesome and is awesome.Vault101 said:Really? that sounds awsome!
QQ?...anyway im not actually an angry feminist and mabye its not even the feminism thing I just feel so "meh" towards such films now, even though as I said a few years ago I would have been like OMG THOR AWSOME!!!! I dont really know why
also I think because of reading so much TV tropes I notice even the more subtle double standards in alot of things
Anyway, 'such' films? Sounds rather generalising, and very vague.
As for double standards, getting worked up about those is such a waste of time and energy. Ignore the silly things.
that's almost exactly what i thought when i first saw the previews for it, i think hollywood just needs to pump the brakes a bit... that and stop casting Ryan Reynolds for EVERYTHING!!!Vault101 said:for some reason Ive lost interest in comic book movies...thecoreyhlltt said:i went and saw THOR, deffinately a must see for anyone and everyone...
also I think Ive become some sort of angry feminist because all I can think about when it comes to thor is....well THOR going around doing manley fighting things while his love interest probably gets kidnapped eventually (not saying shes not a strong charachter or anything...she could be)
Not saying its a bad film its probley great (I havnt seen it) but yeah...mabye after watching films Ive just grown tired of Men having all the fun...