Technically, you're never capable of playing without someone telling you that you're doing it wrong. Ever. Ever ever.blakfayt said:Your a whatever instrument-ist when you can play it without having someone tell you that your doing it wrong, you aren't blasting riff after riff on the guitar, but you aren't constantly screwing up either, it goes n00b->guitarist->professional.MisterGobbles said:So today, one of my friends started giving me drumset lessons. I'm normally a guitarist so I figured it'd come in handy sometime, but why I am taking is irrelevant to this thread.
But afterwards, for some reason, it got me thinking: how well do you have to be able to play something in order to be considered a "guitarist" or a "drummer" or whatever term applies to the instrument you play? One could argue that being able to play a simple beat on drumset doesn't make you a drummer, any more than being able to play a chord on guitar makes you a guitarist.
But what is the line? I myself don't really have an opinion, but what do you guys think? What is the point at which you personally consider someone able to say that they play something?
So, the folks who received money at one point for playing music and don't anymore aren't musicians? Even if they've been playing music for years and years (and may still continue to do so)?Nautical Honors Society said:Yes, but we are talking technicalities. If somebody asks someone what do they do and they respond "oh I am a musician" or "oh I am an actor" and they currently aren't getting paid then they are wrong.MisterGobbles said:That I would have to disagree with. There are plenty of community theater actors and such that don't get paid to do the things they do (although most of them have been paid before for their acting), and plenty of musicians that don't get paid either.Nautical Honors Society said:If you get paid to do it then thats when you can consider yourself a "drummer, bassist, guitarist" etc, otherwise you just play the instrument.
The same goes for actors. You can only call yourself an actor if you are getting paid.
Yea technically. I don't like it either, but if you aren't currently a working actor or musician you are just someone who acts or plays music.InsomniJack said:So, the folks who received money at one point for playing music and don't anymore aren't musicians? Even if they've been playing music for years and years (and may still continue to do so)?Nautical Honors Society said:Yes, but we are talking technicalities. If somebody asks someone what do they do and they respond "oh I am a musician" or "oh I am an actor" and they currently aren't getting paid then they are wrong.MisterGobbles said:That I would have to disagree with. There are plenty of community theater actors and such that don't get paid to do the things they do (although most of them have been paid before for their acting), and plenty of musicians that don't get paid either.Nautical Honors Society said:If you get paid to do it then thats when you can consider yourself a "drummer, bassist, guitarist" etc, otherwise you just play the instrument.
The same goes for actors. You can only call yourself an actor if you are getting paid.
Or, for that matter, how about the folks that regularly jam with others? Are they not musicians either because they're not getting paid to do that? Do we just call them "other friends who are into music"?
I get what you're saying, but there has to be more to it than just a paycheck. I'm not making any money currently with playing music, but I play music on a regular basis. Like, every week, if not every day. Am I just "some guy that's into music" since it's technically not my job?