How Would You Improve the Forum Health Bar?

[Soviet Heavy]

I know a lot of people here aren't very pleased with the forum health bar. But instead of complaining about it, what do you think could be done to improve it?

[SNIP]
Apparently, there is an Amnesty system in place to regain health. My bad for not doing my homework. Thanks to Jonluw for pointing it out.

Also, I would have had the health bar begin taking points off after it became implemented. Right now, I am being held accountable for a couple of infractions from nearly a year ago. I'm not a fan of the retroactive punishment. That would be the same as not receiving the clean slate from your juvenile record upon becoming an adult. You might have learned your lesson, but the health bar doesn't care.

What would you do to improve the health bar?

 

[Jonluw]

Uhm... Yes. From what I understand, your forum health bar is reset after a set amount of months without incidence, actually.
So there.

[HEADING=3]Amnesty[/HEADING]
After every 6 months without any warnings, you will drop down one level on the Forum Health Meter. After 2 years without any warnings, your meter will be returned to 0, regardless of where it was before.

These adjustments don't apply to any users that have been permanently banned, and they don't remove the history that the moderators can see on your account. Anyone that is seen "gaming the system" will be held accountable for it.

There's not really anything I would change.

 

[Je Suis Ubermonkey]

Mine is empty. Preserve the status quo, because for me the status most definitely is quo.

Maybe give it lasers. Nothing can't be improved with lasers.

 

[TheIronRuler]

This is explosive...
I shouldn't comment here in fear of the admins.

Spoiler: if you're not an admin read this

Admins, I said you shouldn't read this.
Nevermind, I support your claim that the infraction should disappear after.. perhaps 3 months of 'good' behavior?

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Uhm... Yes. From what I understand, your forum health bar is reset after a set amount of months without incidence, actually.
So there.

[HEADING=3]Amnesty[/HEADING]
After every 6 months without any warnings, you will drop down one level on the Forum Health Meter. After 2 years without any warnings, your meter will be returned to 0, regardless of where it was before.

These adjustments don't apply to any users that have been permanently banned, and they don't remove the history that the moderators can see on your account. Anyone that is seen "gaming the system" will be held accountable for it.

There's not really anything I would change.

When was that implemented? When I first read the new rules that wasn't there.

 

[Dango]

I'd take it away, it's a bad idea...

 

[Jonluw]

Uhm... Yes. From what I understand, your forum health bar is reset after a set amount of months without incidence, actually.
So there.

[HEADING=3]Amnesty[/HEADING]
After every 6 months without any warnings, you will drop down one level on the Forum Health Meter. After 2 years without any warnings, your meter will be returned to 0, regardless of where it was before.

These adjustments don't apply to any users that have been permanently banned, and they don't remove the history that the moderators can see on your account. Anyone that is seen "gaming the system" will be held accountable for it.

There's not really anything I would change.

When was that implemented? When I first read the new rules that wasn't there.

*shrug*
I dunno.
Ask a mod if you're very interested.

 

[Avatar Roku]

I'd take it away, it's a bad idea...

I dunno about that. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone permabanned for something seemingly minor, only for the mods to then have to explain that this was his 18th warning or some such. Remember the controversy over MaxTheReaper? The Health Bar adds clarity, if nothing else. Granted, it could probably be done better, but the overall concept isn't so bad.

 

[Woodsey]

I would remove it. Six whole months to wipe a fucking warning? Warnings that used to be non-official reminders of how to be on the forum?

As a system, its gone full-retard.

Uhm... Yes. From what I understand, your forum health bar is reset after a set amount of months without incidence, actually.
So there.

[HEADING=3]Amnesty[/HEADING]
After every 6 months without any warnings, you will drop down one level on the Forum Health Meter. After 2 years without any warnings, your meter will be returned to 0, regardless of where it was before.

These adjustments don't apply to any users that have been permanently banned, and they don't remove the history that the moderators can see on your account. Anyone that is seen "gaming the system" will be held accountable for it.

There's not really anything I would change.

When was that implemented? When I first read the new rules that wasn't there.

Same day the introduced the rules - I wouldn't be surprised if they had it in place already, but then waited since they knew people wouldn't be happy. Its still fucking stupid.

 

[Socks and Shoes]

I'd get rid of it, don't like the concept of putting a user's wrath history on display for everyone to see.

 

[Megahedron]

Uhm... Yes. From what I understand, your forum health bar is reset after a set amount of months without incidence, actually.
So there.

[HEADING=3]Amnesty[/HEADING]
After every 6 months without any warnings, you will drop down one level on the Forum Health Meter. After 2 years without any warnings, your meter will be returned to 0, regardless of where it was before.

These adjustments don't apply to any users that have been permanently banned, and they don't remove the history that the moderators can see on your account. Anyone that is seen "gaming the system" will be held accountable for it.

There's not really anything I would change.

When was that implemented? When I first read the new rules that wasn't there.

Same! They clearly did it in secret because if we all learned that overwhelming complaining actually worked to change things, this forum would become very whiny.

But hey, I'm now perfectly happy with the forum health bar. It compliments me every time I go to my profile!

 

[-Drifter-]

Well, ideally I'd get rid of it altogether, but failing that, I'd say that it shouldn't count offences made before it's implementation. I haven't had a single warning since it was added, yet my bar is down to half.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

I don't wanna sound nitpicky but I've been a good little boy and I haven't had any bars knocked down

T^T I want a health pack!

Maybe that should be it. 500 posts without a problem you get a health pack or something.
I dunno >.>

 

[Dango]

I'd take it away, it's a bad idea...

I dunno about that. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone permabanned for something seemingly minor, only for the mods to then have to explain that this was his 18th warning or some such. Remember the controversy over MaxTheReaper? The Health Bar adds clarity, if nothing else. Granted, it could probably be done better, but the overall concept isn't so bad.

It could be done, much, much better. The way it is now is just terrible. If you can't gain back health, then others shouldn't be able to see it. Say you got lots of probations and maybe a suspension or two around the time you join, then a year or so later, you've gotten the hang of the forums. You're a decent forum-goer, not doing much wrong, but your health bar is still in the red, so now people who don't know you on the forums can click on your profile and assume that you're a complete asshole (which will happen). And worse yet, you could get pissed off at someone for a perfectly legitimate reason, and because you cursed one too many times, your past mod wrath earns you a perma-ban.

Basically, the system should be more forgiving, and less stupid.

 

[RanD00M]

I would scrap it and just revert back to the old system. Hey it worked for a lot of years, don't see why it wouldn't still.

 

[Haydyn]

I like the "Clean Record = Full Health Bar" idea. No changes to the system, but a change to the design. Having a clean record I wouldn't want to fix what isn't broken.

 

[Avatar Roku]

I'd take it away, it's a bad idea...

I dunno about that. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone permabanned for something seemingly minor, only for the mods to then have to explain that this was his 18th warning or some such. Remember the controversy over MaxTheReaper? The Health Bar adds clarity, if nothing else. Granted, it could probably be done better, but the overall concept isn't so bad.

It could be done, much, much better. The way it is now is just terrible. If you can't gain back health, then others shouldn't be able to see it. Say you got lots of probations and maybe a suspension or two around the time you join, then a year or so later, you've gotten the hang of the forums. You're a decent forum-goer, not doing much wrong, but your health bar is still in the red, so now people who doesn't know you on the forums can click you're profile and assume that you're a complete asshole (which will happen). And worse yet, you could get pissed off at someone for a perfectly legitimate reason, and because you cursed one too many times, your past mod wrath earns you a perma-ban.

Basically, the system should be more forgiving, and less stupid.

I see what you're saying, and I agree that it should probably be private. Point of clarification, however, you can gain health back. Slowly, to be sure, but (as posted above), 6 months without warnings to lose a level, 2 years to wipe clean regardless of level.

Is that too slow? Probably, I'd likely change it to 3 and 9 months, respectively (and I just pulled those numbers out of my ass, btw), but I really don't think the concept itself is so awful.

 

[josemlopes]

I see myself getting banned, 2 years is way too long and from time to time (maybe once a year) a get a warning about something that no one cared about (seriously, I see 1 new message and then BAM, "Warning" and I am all like "WTF? I have seen worst, why did I got this?").

 

[Dango]

I'd take it away, it's a bad idea...

I dunno about that. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone permabanned for something seemingly minor, only for the mods to then have to explain that this was his 18th warning or some such. Remember the controversy over MaxTheReaper? The Health Bar adds clarity, if nothing else. Granted, it could probably be done better, but the overall concept isn't so bad.

It could be done, much, much better. The way it is now is just terrible. If you can't gain back health, then others shouldn't be able to see it. Say you got lots of probations and maybe a suspension or two around the time you join, then a year or so later, you've gotten the hang of the forums. You're a decent forum-goer, not doing much wrong, but your health bar is still in the red, so now people who doesn't know you on the forums can click you're profile and assume that you're a complete asshole (which will happen). And worse yet, you could get pissed off at someone for a perfectly legitimate reason, and because you cursed one too many times, your past mod wrath earns you a perma-ban.

Basically, the system should be more forgiving, and less stupid.

I see what you're saying, and I agree that it should probably be private. Point of clarification, however, you can gain health back. Slowly, to be sure, but (as posted above), 6 months without warnings to lose a level, 2 years to wipe clean regardless of level.

Is that too slow? Probably, I'd likely change it to 3 and 9 months, respectively (and I just pulled those numbers out of my ass, btw), but I really don't think the concept itself is so awful.

Was that amnesty section added in afterwards? I'd honestly never noticed that section.

Still, the mods can be a bit stupid misunderstanding, not mention they've been encroaching on the forum games' free speech a bit lately. They perma-banned a perfectly innocent user recently...