How would you make a M rated first party Nintendo franchise?

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gyrobot_v1legacy

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An idea that has always bugged me was how every other console out there had abandoned the children's market to a certain degree that outside of party games there has been little effort to make anything "child friendly" (unless you call bleeding sandbag humans with no dismemberment child friendly) and Nintendo has yet to make one straight from their first party devs.

The idea I had was to connect the Galaxy Federation to similar futuristic plots (Star Fox, Metroid and F-Zero) where the Federation gets caught in a bloody hot then cold war between an alternative dimension where the GF became a collective of dangerous warbands as they begin to wreck havoc on the Federation. As a mercenary he is sent across the galaxy to either provoke conflicts for profit or to secure the interests of the GF's collective of clients with their own agenda.

So what kind of first party M rated franchise you would like to see from Nintendo?
 

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Rather than see their child friendly games turn grimdark mature I'd rather see something new from them. Unless it's related to Eternal Darkness, which is an M game they made and an awesome horror game at that.

Nintendo usually doesn't make games that focus on a story driven games and are more about polished mechanics, so I'd want to see an awesome beat em up/hack n slash from them. Though seeing how they are working with Platinum to make Bayonetta 2 I'm getting what I wanted.
 

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Metroid has always been pretty dark, it wouldn't be particularly hard to turn it into an M rated game.

I'd make it first person, like the Metroid Prime games, make the monsters you're fighting a bit more grotesque, and add in some blood and gore when you blow them up with missiles.

Bam, done, easy.
 

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Create Dead Space again but this time replace Isaac with Samus Aran and the necromorphs with space pirates. Heck we could do a continuation of Metroid fusion and just have X-parasite monsters or something. Add some blood there, a little scariness here and we got ourselves a M rating!

Alternatively make a darker Zelda, I could see that happening, Twilight Princess had the graphics down, just need a darker story and we're set.
 

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The big question for me is why would you want to change a franchise in to something it's not? If nintendo wants to make a new "dark" game, just make a NEW game instead of harping on the old tired franchises.

But i suppose out of the core franchises i agree that Metroid is probably the most fitting. Darken the story up, add some gore and guts and there you go.
 

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gyrobot said:
An idea that has always bugged me was how every other console out there had abandoned the children's market
Lego games
SSX
Littlebig Planet
FIFA
Film-license games.
Just saying.
OT: I think Nintendo doesn't just keep the characters, it keeps the same formula for games (as in, for all mario games or zelda games) save a few variations.
Maybe a tonally different game would be best fitting.
 

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Make Conker 2.0 (not really Conker since Microsoft owns that but something like it), thats basicly it, there is no need going guns blazing with a shooter or making an already existing series go dark and edgy when you can actually make something new that.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Metroid has always been pretty dark, it wouldn't be particularly hard to turn it into an M rated game.

I'd make it first person, like the Metroid Prime games, make the monsters you're fighting a bit more grotesque, and add in some blood and gore when you blow them up with missiles.

Bam, done, easy.
Agreed, Metroid would be the easiest I imagine. Certainly more so than Zelda, Pokemon, or Mario. Zelda could certainly be bumped to a T, but the others are staying firmly where they are.
 

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Rutabaga_swe said:
But i suppose out of the core franchises i agree that Metroid is probably the most fitting. Darken the story up, add some gore and guts and there you go.
It could work I guess
After finishing Metroid Fusion I thought about premise to next 2 sequels
In first sequel you take control of another bounty hunter who tries to track down Samus
In the process you find her trapped by some private corporation that studies her and figure out what exactly chozo did to her
Intent is to provide solution for military to develop their own supersoldiers
In the end you capture Samus, but before handing her to Federation, protagonist is contacted bu remaining chozo and offered larger reward for Samus.

In second sequel one of research sites that was applying knowledge gained by studying Samus, goes silent.
Federation sends few other bounty hunters (including protagonist of previous game) but they get wiped out
Bounty on Samus is dropped and her assistance is required on this research site to contain situation
And things get really bad.
But I guess that would remind Dead Space a little too much
 

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Always thought zelda could stand to be a bit darker and more violent. Not that I would change much but games get slapped with an M rating pretty easy nowadays. I think if they actually let characters die in the plot, made the monsters bigger and nastier looking, and made links swordplay a bit more visceral it would probably end up being rated M. Halo is about shooting technicolor aliens and every one of those has been.
 

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Seeing as Nintendo is usually about game design/mechanics that are honed to a fine point as opposed to deep and thought provoking narrative, I think it'd be pretty easy for them to make an M rated game.

Take something with the movement/trick mechanics of, let's say, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater or Jet Set Radio or some such. Turn the speed and stylishness up to 11. Then make each trick double as a combat move and center the game around brutal, stylish, high-speed violence on a rocketboard or rocket skates. Make each level nice and big with plenty of things to ramp off of/jump off of/grind/wallride/walljump off of so the player can take advantage of their maneuverability and then throw in a dick joke or two. You wouldn't even need to add any gore or viscera to make the the game M rated, the player could be fighting robots that spray oil and hydraulic fluid everywhere for all it matters. As long as what little dialogue present in the game is filled with enough innuendo and swearing that M rating will show up in no time.

*Possible Example Objective Text*
"Hey bro, see that giant douche-bot flying around? The one that's, like, exploding the shit out of everything? Boost up a building or something, grind down that huge Cock Compensation Cannon it's lugging around, and slam a rocket or two into the big Fuck Me Here light on it's forehead. That should get everyone's attention and look totally sweet."

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And then Hemlet read the thread title a second time. Derp. Okay, on topic: Take Metroid, add a little bit more gore and viscera. Boom, M rating. Metroid get's pretty dark at times anyways, and some of the creature designs are good and nasty. It's the only first-party Nintendo game that I can think of that really toes the line between a T and an M rating, so I don't think it would take too much to push it into M rating territory.
 

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I think it would be pretty easy...

I mean the franchises like Zelda, Metroid and StarFox are all about killing stuff, so all they would need to do is make people lose their body parts and blood flying about like in a jelly feast and that's pretty much do it?

Also why not throw in some uggly-ass-language and nudity into the bin and they're ready to go.

But then again... no thanks.
 

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The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time HD, now with fully voiced characters. Starring Robert de Niro as Link and Samuel Jackson as Navi.

"Hey, ************! Listen!"
 

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Um... I know Madworld wasn't technically first party, but, well, Madworld. The bloodiest, goriest, vulgarist game I've ever seen even near a Nintendo. And look how well that was received.

Basically, nintendo's stuck in a loop. They continue what they're doing, people bash them for being too kiddy, they try to mix it up (with games like the aforementioned Madworld, Red Steel, or ZombiU) and people say the kiddy console shouldn't try to be hardcore, cuz nintendo is a kid's toy.

Hell, you want to instantly make a 1st party ninten game rated M? Pikmin are now just really tiny humans, and not plants.
 

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Super Smash Brother Brawl 2 (or whatever) now with finishing moves! I wouldnt want them to make any game M rated just for the sake of it though but as has been said before a sequel to Eternal Darkness would be good and ofc there is Bayonetta 2 I dont know what rating that will get but it may be M I suppose but I dont care what rating it gets just that I get the game.
 

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Give Super Mario Bros. a spin off, a la There Will Be Brawl: a film noir-esque adventure game, similar to The Wolf Among Us.

That would be pretty cool, and since we already did it with fucking cartoon pigs and cinderella, an italian plumber and a fire-breathing basilisk wouldn't be that strange.

[small]But Luigi would totally be the protagonist[/small]
 

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Scars Unseen said:
The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time HD, now with fully voiced characters. Starring Robert de Niro as Link and Samuel Jackson as Navi.

"Hey, ************! Listen!"
I like to imagine Navi delivering the extract from the bible whilst collecting debts for Link.

Now all we need is Johnny Travolta as Navi's assistant.
 

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Only way would be for Nintendo to give some devs from their stable, freedom to create what they want. Otherwise they are banking on indies, who they once didn't want to know unless they were a legit business with offices. Problem is that Wii U is still very limiting in what can be made for it. The tablet controller also negates any true freedom in creating the game a person wants to create.