Human History in 6 words

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tkioz

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"People Being Dicks to other People" that is human history. Why am I stating such a bleedingly obvious thing then you ask? Well it has to do with a statement I saw on IRC last night between two people arguing politics, one American, one Japanese that quickly descended into a slanging match, with one memorable line that stuck out "at least my ancestors never owned slaves!"

I just wanted to cry at the ignorance such a statement implied, but the very virtue of being alive chances are some of your ancestors did some really questionable things, they lived to pass on their genes didn't they? Be it murder, thievery, cowardice, slavery, whatever, chances are they did something horrible to someone else.

That's bloody human nature, it's not survival of the fittest with us, it's survival of the nastiest, so by the rule of stones and glasses houses that means you shouldn't claim your family, religion, nation, whatever is better to anyone else's because everyone of those things did something nasty at some point or another, likely to someone who didn't deserve it.
 

LogicNProportion

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"We came, we saw, we conquered." <-- My version of human history in six words.

"Scipio. Law. Wanderer. Killer. Womanizing. Me." <-- MY family history.

Scipio = Farthest ancestor fought beside him as one of his officers at Carthage.

Law = Same ancestor became a judge in Rome, giving my family power.

Wanderer = Renaissance saw my family as merchants and mercenaries.

Killer = Mafioso.

Womanizing = My father in a man-whore.

Me = Duh.
 

khiliani

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what the fuck went wrong here

sums up practicly everything, including some good bits
 

ultrachicken

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I think people measure how great their religion is based on whether or not they think it's actually correct.

It's not only the "nastiest" that survive. Plenty of civilians haven't owned slaves, or committed mass genocide, etc. It's just the ones that do get the most attention.

Please, stop with the "humans are such jerks!" threads.
 

Drakmeire

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We fucked some shit up! WOOO!
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Better not mess with Theodore Roosevelt.
http://www.cracked.com/article_15895_the-5-most-badass-presidents-all-time_p5.html
 

tkioz

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ultrachicken said:
I think people measure how great their religion is based on whether or not they think it's actually correct.

It's not only the "nastiest" that survive. Plenty of civilians haven't owned slaves, or committed mass genocide, etc. It's just the ones that do get the most attention.

Please, stop with the "humans are such jerks!" threads.
Imagine you're a farmer in 16th century France, you've got just enough food stored away so that you and your family might eat for the winter; along comes a family of refugees, they beg you for food and shelter, do you a) help them and put your own family at risk of starving during winter or b) turn them away knowing full well they'll likely starve?

Using today's morality turning them away is a wrong act, but the very fact we were born means that our ancestors made these sort of choices and chose themselves.

Humans are jerks, it's hard-wired into us, doesn't mean we shouldn't try and over-come it, but it's not something we should be ignorant about either.