Humanity lost in a cloud of hate and anger?

[Saviordd1]

So yesterday I stumbled on a video thanks to someone on this forum

Video here:

And I was thinking, what happened to that sort of thinking? It seems like the world today is obsessed with anger, and hate, and drama. Like we forgot somewhere along the line that there's more to the world then being witty and cynical, to being a dick, and when someone tries to suggest kindness instead of hostility they are shunned and suppressed.

Maybe I'm to young to see something (I'm 16) but it seems to me that in general the world is very angry and hateful, sometimes without purpose. Hell beyond that we don't even see the real world half the time, the media shows us what they deem is correct.

Even our literature and music seems obsessed with just entertaining ourselves (Sex, Drugs, violence) even our video games. Now there's nothing wrong with entertainment but that seems to be all we do. The first world nations seem to get annoyed when minor things are taken away, when their entertainment is interrupted.

I don't know, this is a bit of rant obviously, but am I the only one who thinks this way? That sees that even some of the nicest people I know are pretty much huge dicks, that we have lost the idea of basic kindness?

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

The twenty four hour news networks happened.

Through sensationalism used to keep ratings up, they've desensitized us.

 

[Scarim Coral]

I prefer this one (it's more invoking)-
OT- I don't know what to say other than that what reality is. Yes that speech make alot of good points but the only driving force is for us to take actions which it seen we don't. It's easy to said than get it done. However I believe there is still good in the world in the smallest ways but they don't get recorded that often.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

Don't get dismayed because the most vocal side to humanity is also the most ignorant. You have to look for the good, it is there and it's plentiful.

 

[Saviordd1]

The twenty four hour news networks happened.

Through sensationalism used to keep ratings up, they've desensitized us.

Yeah, by the time kids are grown up their to sheltered to understand and to desensitized to worry.

I prefer this one (it's more invoking)-
OT- I don't know what to say other than that what reality is. Yes that speech make alot of good points but the only driving force is for us to take actions which it seen we don't. It's easy to said than get it done. However I believe there is still good in the world in the smallest ways but they don't get recorded that often.

Your right that one is better

Yeah it seems that way, people want the bad, but I believe there is so much good.

Don't get dismayed because the most vocal side to humanity is also the most ignorant. You have to look for the good, it is there and it's plentiful.

It's hard to see sometimes though isn't it?

 

[FFHAuthor]

Oh look, another one of these threads. Lovely.

 

[Nickolai77]

Drama, conflict and violence interest us, and it's nothing new at all.

It's why the Romans staged real-life mock battles in their amphitheatres, it's why practically every single story and legend- from the Iliad to Beowulf to Shakespeare to Star Wars, is full of sex and violence, because sex violence and conflict is what interests us as humans and always has done and will ever do.

I don't know of many good stories out there which do not feature any violence, implied sexuality or conflict. Even the most sensitive of childrens programs have a problem or challenge to overcome which may stir negative emotions in their young audience.

It's what makes us human, engaging with and feeling violent or hateful emotions because we as humans are driven by primal instincts. But what equally makes us human, and sets us apart from other animals, is our ability to suppress our primal instincts with our rational minds.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

Don't get dismayed because the most vocal side to humanity is also the most ignorant. You have to look for the good, it is there and it's plentiful.

It's hard to see sometimes though isn't it?

Yeah... I can't argue with that. Enriching ones life is a long term goal, and quite a few mounds of shit are obscuring it.

 

[gallaetha_matt]

I can't disagree with you at all, I think what you're saying is completely right. People are hard and cynical these days.

But this is just the price we pay when the worlds wealth is controlled by the minority. Our entire lives are dictated by men and women more rich and powerful than any of us plebs could ever hope to be. It's scary to think how small one's voice is in such a vast and uncaring world. Sometimes it can feel like the only way to survive is to toughen up, get cynical and start taking whatever you can.

I can sympathise with what you're saying, I really can. But you know that old saying? 'If you don't know who the sucker is then it's probably you' that's pretty much the attitude that people are forced to adopt just to survive. If you're not using others than chances are you're being used yourself, be it by your job, your family, your marriage, your friends. From the Nigerian Prince that got all of your bank details to the big corporations that want to smash your life to pieces if you try to download just one song off the internet.

Really the best thing you can do in life is to hide in your fortress until the zombies come. Then it's my time to shine!

Tl;dr: let's agree to disagree.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

This might be news to some of you but mankind as a species is a rather hate-filled and angry species.

So how exactly could humanity "get lost" in something that pretty much defines it?

When are you ever going to realize the fact that this lovey-dovey "humanity is really good deep inside" bullshit is just pink-misted idealism and not representative of what humanity really is?

I'll put it in simple terms for you so that you might understand:

"mankind is really good" = Idealism, i.e what most people WANT to be true.

Mankind is hate-filled and angry = Reality, i.e what's actually going on.

Get it?

 

[ediblemitten]

Honestly, these threads are getting tired very quickly. People have always have been angry and dramatic. There have always been savage, terrible people, there has always been war, there has always been hate, killing and, ahem, 'drama'. Actually, we've improved markedly as a race in my opinion. Look up the Thirty Years War, the great dick-swinging, aristocratic's-last-breath, slaughterfest that was world war I, maybe the Mongol conquests, or have a look at the Taiping rebellion, and them come back and tell me WE'RE hateful and angry.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

At first I was annoyed because I thought it was gonna one of those threads again, and what a pleasant surprise that it's not.

Anyways, I think it probably has to deal with 24/7 news reports and talking heads expanding on it, and even going further into talking about what other horrible things have happened or might happen. It gets rather depressing.

After a while everything seems hopeless and people have nothing else better to do than complain and be completely negative about it, thus enters cynicism. When you are so deep into that thinking it's rather difficult to see any good happening, and when you do, you can't help but be cynical about it and discredit the good work being done. It's just what happens when you constantly see horrible things happen and feel like you can't do anything about it, when you might be able to do something about it.

And let's all be honest, what gets quick attention? Something negative done in a witty funny way, and that kind of shit gets old really fast. Yes, I was just being cynical, but it's true.

Best part is, they're the minority, thankfully. So, just ignore them and tell them to cheer the fuck up, and tell them to buy a puppy or something.

 

[bennyboy05]

It's not that humanity is lost in in a fit of rage and intolerance, it's just that the people who are are the one's who get the most media attention. However, those same people are in the minority. There is a lot of good in the world it's just hard to see sometimes.

 

[SidingWithTheEnemy]

To answer you thread correctly:
Yes, humanity is lost.

It's not that you don't have an almighty clone soldier as avatar and that you proudly wear the badge that you watched over 150 of the probably most ranting and despicable game critiques ever made on earth. (They are brilliant no doubt but not because he is the nice guy, right?) So you probably are familiar with the whole fascination of all these things that common sense despises.
So you know exactly why. Everyone does. It just feels better that way. Morals, Rules and Sarcasm aside, Conan got it quite nicely when he talks about what's best in life.

Spoiler

Basically we are just animals who kill to survive. And you know what happens to a horde of animals when it gets to close together... Yeah... Ever seen perfectly happy grass chewing cattle when it's pent-up for transport. They just go berserk... That's basically humanity with our little privacy and personal space left.
But it is still nice that there are some threads like this where we are reminded that it could be different.

 

[Saviordd1]

This might be news to some of you but mankind as a species is a rather hate-filled and angry species.

So how exactly could humanity "get lost" in something that pretty much defines it?

When are you ever going to realize the fact that this lovey-dovey "humanity is really good deep inside" bullshit is just pink-misted idealism and not representative of what humanity really is?

I'll put it in simple terms for you so that you might understand:

"mankind is really good" = Idealism, i.e what most people WANT to be true.

Mankind is hate-filled and angry = Reality, i.e what's actually going on.

Get it?

Is it though? Even in the worst people I know I've seen good, I've seen them defy the very evil they say they are. Humanity isn't "Really good" Its flawed, but its good at the same time.

Honestly, these threads are getting tired very quickly. People have always have been angry and dramatic. There have always been savage, terrible people, there has always been war, there has always been hate, killing and, ahem, 'drama'. Actually, we've improved markedly as a race in my opinion. Look up the Thirty Years War, the great dick-swinging, aristocratic's-last-breath, slaughterfest that was world war I, maybe the Mongol conquests, or have a look at the Taiping rebellion, and them come back and tell me WE'RE hateful and angry.

We are, we're also ignorant to the world, how many people suffer to make your clothes because they work on less then minimum wage? How many people die in africa and we just don't care? How many people suffer in poverty in our own cities and we give them a few dimes and call it our good deed? We've gone backward, we just disguise it with the media.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Is it though? Even in the worst people I know I've seen good, I've seen them defy the very evil they say they are. Humanity isn't "Really good" Its flawed, but its good at the same time.

The worst people you know are hardly the most angry and hate-filled people in the world. Most likely, the worst people you know are complete pussycats compared to me. And even my hate and anger isn't as limitless as some other specimens of humanity that I know of.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

There is a lot of good in the world it's just hard to see sometimes.

Keep telling yourself that while you still can. It's a nice little fantasy to indulge in.

 

[Saviordd1]

Is it though? Even in the worst people I know I've seen good, I've seen them defy the very evil they say they are. Humanity isn't "Really good" Its flawed, but its good at the same time.

The worst people you know are hardly the most angry and hate-filled people in the world. Most likely, the worst people you know are complete pussycats compared to me. And even my hate and anger isn't as limitless as some other specimens of humanity that I know of.

Honestly, unless you murder people, you aren't that bad. I know you love to see yourself as some hate filled bad ass but honestly I'm not impressed

 

[Saviordd1]

To answer you thread correctly:
Yes, humanity is lost.

It's not that you don't have an almighty clone soldier as avatar and that you proudly wear the badge that you watched over 150 of the probably most ranting and despicable game critiques ever made on earth. (They are brilliant no doubt but not because he is the nice guy, right?) So you probably are familiar with the whole fascination of all these things that common sense despises.
So you know exactly why. Everyone does. It just feels better that way. Morals, Rules and Sarcasm aside, Conan got it quite nicely when he talks about what's best in life.

Spoiler

Basically we are just animals who kill to survive. And you know what happens to a horde of animals when it gets to close together... Yeah... Ever seen perfectly happy grass chewing cattle when it's pent-up for transport. They just go berserk... That's basically humanity with our little privacy and personal space left.
But it is still nice that there are some threads like this where we are reminded that it could be different.

Yeah I guess your right, but we can change, Humanity can be so much more.