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GWarface

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Making the first atom bomb..

No country should have weapons like that (now they are even worse) and if there really is some aliens watching us from above, we showed them how intelligent and fucking stupid we are at the same time.. Which really isnt a good sign to send..

But hey.. No nukes, no Fallout.. Thats not good..
 

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Eekaida said:
Religion. Since its very beginning its been used as an excuse for genocide, war, dictatorship, you name it. In every conflict I can think of, religion played a part.
I don't think theorising about the world around us or believing in spirituality is really a mistake. Perhaps organised religion, rather than simply religion as that is what caused wars, genocides, etc, not religion itself.
 

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Eekaida said:
Religion. Since its very beginning its been used as an excuse for genocide, war, dictatorship, you name it. In every conflict I can think of, religion played a part.
What about WWI, WWII, Korea, Cold war and Vietnam weren't those mainly based off politics?
 

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yman15 said:
Eekaida said:
Religion. Since its very beginning its been used as an excuse for genocide, war, dictatorship, you name it. In every conflict I can think of, religion played a part.
What about WWI, WWII, Korea, Cold war and Vietnam weren't those mainly based off politics?
Not to mention the Nepolianic wars, the Civil War, the Revolutionary war, and the War of 1812.
 

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Eekaida said:
Religion. Since its very beginning its been used as an excuse for genocide, war, dictatorship, you name it. In every conflict I can think of, religion played a part.
So did air.

OT: Probably the bit where we extended luxury beyond our means on the planet. I read somewhere that for everyone on Earth to lead a middle-class western lifestyle, we'll need three planet Earths to stay sustainable.
 

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Money. If people simply shared their acquired wealth of simply just traded goods like older times, we would have less homeless people, less starvation, less.... you see where I am going with this. Sure there are a lot of bigger issues out there that should have been stopped before money but, being below the poverty line myself, money has had no positive effect on humans. I has created greed and jealously and if people were to get rid of it, we might actually accomplish more than fighting over budget cuts and low medical funding and have a lower death rate with people not having to pay for medical treatment.
Not to be rude, but you know why we no longer use barter, correct?

Because without money, in order to trade, you have to find someone who has what you want and wants what you have and is willing to make the exchange. Money is simply something everyone wants from another, so it makes it easier than trading your watch when you want to buy gas for a car.

Money isn't the problem. Human nature is.
True, trading was a flawed system but I was thinking closer along the lines of nobody owning anything but more like mutually sharing everything with everyone. I meant to use trading to ease into the idea of "what's mine is your and what's yours in mine".
 

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monotheistic religion. Fuck Islam, Christianity, and all the other bastard religions they sprung from and led to. It's government in mystical form, that also makes you more susceptible to blindly following government. Raaaaaaaage.
 

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No, I don't, because I did include passages from the NEW TESTAMENT, that pretty much sums it all up that no Christian (not even "sensible" ones) are allowed to ignore the law as it is written in the old testament. In fact they aren't even allowed to interpret it in a personal manner, but have to accept and adhere to EVERYTHUNG written in the old testament weether they fucking like it or not.
Christians are allowed to interpret the bible in their own way, that's one of the main ideas behind Protestantism and the resulting rash of different denominations. My point is that by failing to consider the circumstances under which the passage was written you're assuming Christians are stupid enough to act like some Sci-fi religious race and just believe anything they're told. in Europe there's a long tradition of allegorical or subjective interpretations, being able to google-fu a passage or two that glorifies killing proves nothing.

And if by "disservice" you mean promoting antagonism towards christianity, then im glad I could do just that. The more intolerance of religion I can cause by using religion against itself, the better.
but you're not, you're comparing old rules to new rules. Frankly I don't know anyone who worships Jesus and doesn't interpret the Bible. Also, finding a few thousand-year-old passages that contradict each other in an amalgamated book is not fighting Religion; anyone who's read the Bible seriously knows that several of the passages are repeats of earlier ones (Jesus feeds a crowd magically twice) or meaningless without other missing texts. Every sensible Christian uses the Bible as food for thought rather than as a rigid rulebook, managing to outwit idiots isn't anything to cheer about.
You basically ignored all that I said didn't you?

I don't care what protestants are doing, they are IN FACT going against their own religion by ignoring the words of christ. Making them hypocrites (but then again, that's hardly any real news when it comes to religion either so).

The book is pretty clear about the matter of personal and allegorical interpretation. It's not allowed. If some people do just that, then they aren't being very good christians...
 

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how about taking so friggin long to get where we are now? i mean c'mon! i was hoping to become immortal in my life time, but due to our ancestors negligence science hasn't come that far.
Might have something to do with roughly 800 years of what we call "the dark ages", where religious crazies censored and opposed scientific research if it wasn't in accordance with their religious views.

A scientific solution to death would've never been accepted, since you know, we're only supposed to be able to achieve immortality "through Christ" and all that stuff.

So if you wonder why scientific advances hasn't come further than this, you need not look further than your local church, synagouge or mosque to find the culprits...
Don't worry, I take personal pride in making you upset about this at this point.
 

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Death God said:
CM156 said:
Death God said:
Money. If people simply shared their acquired wealth of simply just traded goods like older times, we would have less homeless people, less starvation, less.... you see where I am going with this. Sure there are a lot of bigger issues out there that should have been stopped before money but, being below the poverty line myself, money has had no positive effect on humans. I has created greed and jealously and if people were to get rid of it, we might actually accomplish more than fighting over budget cuts and low medical funding and have a lower death rate with people not having to pay for medical treatment.
Not to be rude, but you know why we no longer use barter, correct?

Because without money, in order to trade, you have to find someone who has what you want and wants what you have and is willing to make the exchange. Money is simply something everyone wants from another, so it makes it easier than trading your watch when you want to buy gas for a car.

Money isn't the problem. Human nature is.
True, trading was a flawed system but I was thinking closer along the lines of nobody owning anything but more like mutually sharing everything with everyone. I meant to use trading to ease into the idea of "what's mine is your and what's yours in mine".
The problem I see with that is without ownership, no one has any reason to take responsibility for what there is.
 

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GWarface said:
Making the first atom bomb..

No country should have weapons like that (now they are even worse) and if there really is some aliens watching us from above, we showed them how intelligent and fucking stupid we are at the same time.. Which really isnt a good sign to send..

But hey.. No nukes, no Fallout.. Thats not good..
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by the way if there really are aliens watching us they had either get down here and help or leave and go back to their own planet and fix their own problems instead of wasting time in space.
 

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Eekaida said:
Religion. Since its very beginning its been used as an excuse for genocide, war, dictatorship, you name it. In every conflict I can think of, religion played a part.
DUMBASS ALERT. Conflict is a part of human nature. "Religion" starts wars about as often as "not having enough of X resource(s)". Call us corrupt, fallen, whatever, but (and history will vindicate me on this) humans will always twist and despoil ANYTHING to suit their ends. Go back to the 1920's and you'd find that popular scientific opinion held that a woman's brain was inferior to a mans brain.

Your ignorance and bigotry is our worst mistake. Well, not just you, but everyone like you as well. Which probably half the country right now.
 

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Valknott said:
monotheistic religion. Fuck Islam, Christianity, and all the other bastard religions they sprung from and led to. It's government in mystical form, that also makes you more susceptible to blindly following government. Raaaaaaaage.
so religions with like 500+ deities are ok?
 

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CM156 said:
Death God said:
CM156 said:
Death God said:
Money. If people simply shared their acquired wealth of simply just traded goods like older times, we would have less homeless people, less starvation, less.... you see where I am going with this. Sure there are a lot of bigger issues out there that should have been stopped before money but, being below the poverty line myself, money has had no positive effect on humans. I has created greed and jealously and if people were to get rid of it, we might actually accomplish more than fighting over budget cuts and low medical funding and have a lower death rate with people not having to pay for medical treatment.
Not to be rude, but you know why we no longer use barter, correct?

Because without money, in order to trade, you have to find someone who has what you want and wants what you have and is willing to make the exchange. Money is simply something everyone wants from another, so it makes it easier than trading your watch when you want to buy gas for a car.

Money isn't the problem. Human nature is.
True, trading was a flawed system but I was thinking closer along the lines of nobody owning anything but more like mutually sharing everything with everyone. I meant to use trading to ease into the idea of "what's mine is your and what's yours in mine".
The problem I see with that is without ownership, no one has any reason to take responsibility for what there is.
Also true. Every thing has a downside to it but I'd prefer people not taking responsibility for what there is rather than people dying of hunger and being homeless due to not having enough money.
 

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Christianity. Now before all the hate mail hear me out. Christianity started off all well and good by establishing a decent set of morals. But like all things people perverted the religion to gain more power. Which lead to the dark ages and the brief death of science. We would have been significantly more advanced by now if it wasn't for Christianity. Also I'm Russian orthodox. /emote ducks
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
cthulhumythos said:
how about taking so friggin long to get where we are now? i mean c'mon! i was hoping to become immortal in my life time, but due to our ancestors negligence science hasn't come that far.
Might have something to do with roughly 800 years of what we call "the dark ages", where religious crazies censored and opposed scientific research if it wasn't in accordance with their religious views.

A scientific solution to death would've never been accepted, since you know, we're only supposed to be able to achieve immortality "through Christ" and all that stuff.

So if you wonder why scientific advances hasn't come further than this, you need not look further than your local church, synagouge or mosque to find the culprits...
so you mean stuff our ancestors did. DAMN THEIR LAZINESS.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
So if you wonder why scientific advances hasn't come further than this, you need not look further than your local church, synagouge or mosque to find the culprits...
Geez, I knew I had a bad memory, but I had no idea I was around in the middle ages, let alone holding back science...


Dude, this is just getting sad.
 

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werewolfsfury said:
Valknott said:
monotheistic religion. Fuck Islam, Christianity, and all the other bastard religions they sprung from and led to. It's government in mystical form, that also makes you more susceptible to blindly following government. Raaaaaaaage.
so religions with like 500+ deities are ok?
Yes.
 

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drthmik said:
Evolution

The concept of evolution has resulted in more mass murder than all the religious wars in all of recorded history combined
And the concept of the atom, atomic bombs are devastating. We should never have figured out that atoms exsisted, we would have been much better off /sarcasm

Really? I am 99.9% sure im feeding a troll but 1. We didn't invent evolution, its a natural possess and 2. You can't not science because you think people will use your sciencing for evil.