Hypnotism. UPDATE - It WORKS

[Nimbus]

I have a bit of experience with this. Both my parents tried this a long time ago with mixed results. While my Father quit straight away, my Mother didn't. A few years later, stressful circumstances drove my Father back to smoking. I wouldn't be too hopeful, were I you.

 

[CanadianWolverine]

I was mentioning plastics specifically, which are known to release a synthetic estrogen into water when heated - so I don't microwave plastic *shrug*. It seems it is not clear just yet the effects of plastic wear and tear over time leaching into whatever they are containing, but studies on mice have shown some pretty nasty problems with their vaginal areas - so what can I say, when it comes to plastics I feel cautious with regards to the development of children. And that is not even getting into the male fetus still birth rates regarding other toxins. Is it so bad to show some concern as to how our enviroment can effect us, such as lead piping and lead based paints?

actually there's been no product recalls and since it's made american media, that means there's a very small percentage of a chance of it automatically happening, ie one manufacturer that sells bottles in one specific area. the media likes to blow things out of proportion and scare ppl. if you look at things like the cell phones causing gas station fires, they don't the fuel ppl only issued the ban because it's possible, mythbusters proved it's impossible

i take what the media, especially american one, says with a very large grain of salt. i only really bother to take a lot of truth if there's wide scale product recalls or changes as those are a better indication of an issue

Huh, I tend to do my best to avoid the American "If It Bleeds It Leads" Mainstream News as well, but this is what I was thinking of:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/04/17/bisphenola-stores.html

A string of major retailers pulled plastic products with bisphenol A off their shelves on Thursday, part of a purge at stores across the country in anticipation of a Health Canada warning that the chemical is dangerous.

...

Studies in peer-reviewed journals have indicated that even at low doses, the chemical can increase breast and ovarian cancer cell growth and the growth of some prostate cancer cells in animals.

That sort of thing. Besides, well before it was hitting the news, when I was doing research on storing water long term for long camping hikes, I learned about plastic containers not being all they were made out to be - they do break down over time, so you end up drinking the plastic flakes. It is possible to get really hard plastic that breaks down less, but if you want to store water for a long time there are definitely better solutions. In the mean time, I just don't use plastic containers for my daughter if its showing wear and tear - and definitely don't use the containers mentioned in that article I linked for ya. Unless you think that news source is inaccurate and fear mongering as well. *shrug*

It is just something that came to mind she mentioned the desire for less smoke around her daughter. *shrug*

 

[Mr. Moose]

As far as I know if he doesn't want to quit then your 120 just got flushed.

To be less of ass about it what I mean is that hypnosis only works if the person wants to do said thing.

Well he kind of wants to. He wants to for me and the baby but the problem is he doesn't seem to want to for himself. He has, what I have dubbed, and invincibility complex. He doesn't see what's wrong with smoking as long as he keeps it away from me and the baby. He thinks it won't have any adverse effects on him and doesn't see the symptoms that have started.

So he half wants to? I dunno. I hope we didn't just waste our money because of his negative attitude.

May I ask whats wrong with him smoking?

It's his body, he has every right to do what he pleases with it.
You DON'T have the right to say he can't

 

[Higurashi]

As we speak I am sitting in a hall while my fiance is being hypnotized into not smoking anymore. He's 29 years old and has been smoking since he was 13. He was supposed to quit cold turkey when our baby was born but hasn't. And I'm fairly certain he doesn't want to quit. But, we put down the 120 USD for this two hour session and now I'm waiting to see results. And I'm fairly bored..

So has anyone tried hypnotherapy to quit an addiction before? I learned a bit about it in psychology so I think it really could work, especially since he believes in it and that seems to be the first step in the right direction.

Is the 120 USD worth it? Or did we just waste a hunk of cash we could have used toward video games?

No, you most certainly did not waste anything. For it to have an effect on such a strong habit, however, it might require follow-up treatment. And yes, his will to end it must be adamant. He has not stopped, even as the baby was born? Oooh, I would come down there and smack him myself if I could. Addictions are worse than habits, and habits are one of the most difficult things to change.. but for the love of his child.. I just can not understand how he can keep it up. Argh.

Edit: Hurk. I went Gonzo with that post. I just hope I can avoid the chanting. *looks warily around*

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

The only legitimate use for medical hypnotism sanctioned by the APA is pain management. It works rather well too. This won't work he's been smoking for more than half of his life and you cant change behavior that deeply rooted in ones consciousness in one hour.

It doesn't even matter if he wants to because addiction is only psychological. Even if this was to have a small chance of this working he would have to go in for a lifelong regimen. Just get nicotine gum, that's actually been proven to work. And since he DOESNT want to quit and hypnosis is all about SUGGESTION and not ORDERING this can't succeed.

Edit: Hurk. I went Gonzo with that post. I just hope I can avoid the chanting. *looks warily around*

Congrats on post 1000 Higur.

 

[jasoncyrus]

As many have said before me it all boils down to if that person actually WANTS to do what the hypnotist is attempting to make them do.

It also depends on how strong wiled they are and if they actually believe it works.

Personally I've found that I cannot be hypnotised as I have an exceptionally abrasive personality when people try to tell me to do something. I call it the "Do it your fucking self" barrier.

 

[mark_n_b]

Well he kind of wants to. He wants to for me and the baby but the problem is he doesn't seem to want to for himself. He has, what I have dubbed, and invincibility complex. He doesn't see what's wrong with smoking as long as he keeps it away from me and the baby. He thinks it won't have any adverse effects on him and doesn't see the symptoms that have started.

So he half wants to? I dunno. I hope we didn't just waste our money because of his negative attitude.

What the heck is that? Half wants to? That translates to doesn't want to at all. Frankly I am guessing he is of the impression that if he smokes at work or the pub or at home when the baby isn't around it shouldn't matter at all, and in those circumstances I doubt he cares to quit at all. And as for quitting for you, I might remind you that you have been together long enough to have a child and he clearly hasn't quit yet. Not saying anything about your relationship, but it is relevant to you husband's motives.

Hypnosis does work, but it is really just a type of guided meditation, so it doesn't work in the capacity that you can make a person actually think they are a chicken until you say the key word or to kill their father the ambassador at the next UN summit.

Visiting a professional to assist in the issue is a good sign, but it has to be 100% (a smoke at break is completely counter productive), it is a 16 year old habit, never mind the addictive quality of cigarettes, it's normal behaviour, how much time does he spend smoking in a given day all told, an hour? what is that hour going to be filled with, it has to be something different or he is as likely as anything to go back to smoking. Where does he smoke? If he's guaranteed to light up at the pub or when he goes over to Doug's to play pool, it's time to stop going to the Pub or Doug's. And of course, nicotine is addictive and comes with huge cravings that are hard to fight.

Do new things with him, encourage him (but don't patronize), examine other support options with your doctor (hypnosis is just one) and, most importantly, trust him. None of this "I don't know if he wants to for himself" if you doubt his seriousness to quit, that is a big stressor that may drive him back to the butts.

In short, hypnosis, not a mystic cure, and it is as likely as any quit-smoking treatment to fail, but it is as good a resource in the battle as any.

 

[jim_doki]

hypnosis isn't magic. unless you WANT to be hypnotised, then you can't be hypnotised

 

[Ace of Spades]

It worked for my Dad oddly enough. I thought that hypnosis was a bunch of bullshit before that.

 

[Ionait]

poof

 

[CrafterMan]

Hey good on you man, hypnotism actually cured my mates smoking habit to.

Its quite interesting, I don't know the science behind it, but hey whatever works

Glad to hear anyway

 

[Ionait]

poof

 

[sms_117b]

I point you in the direction of series 4 episode 9 of Mythbusters, where they try multiple types of effects of hypnosis, it only works if you want it to was the conclusion

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Thank you all for your thoughts and replies. Sorry it has taken me so long to get to them and write back. The hypnosis took place on Saturday and today is Tuesday. He hasn't smoked a single cigarette. (He did go searching rather enthusiastically for one yesterday after stress at work and his boss accusing him of bs, but he couldn't find one.)

no it didn't work, he just can't find any smokes, if he goes looking for a smoke he still wants to smoke. he'll start again, i'll put money on it

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

You could tell him that you could kill him with a nicotine overdose if he picks up another one.

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

Thank you all for your thoughts and replies. Sorry it has taken me so long to get to them and write back. The hypnosis took place on Saturday and today is Tuesday. He hasn't smoked a single cigarette. (He did go searching rather enthusiastically for one yesterday after stress at work and his boss accusing him of bs, but he couldn't find one.)

Um .. then it didn't work. If hypnotism worked it would mean that he doesn't want to smoke. he obviously still does so I'm confused how that could be viewed as a success. You can still be an alcoholic and still not drink because you can't find any booze.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Wow, you really don't have to be a giant asshole about it.. you know.

not really, the truth is the truth, sometimes it sucks and sometimes it's great but at least it's the truth and reality not holding onto some sort of delusion that you think is the truth

 

[soulless_lover]

Sir, you assume too much about my parenting style. I hightlighted for you what is very much not true and would ask you to recall that statement. I realize very much so that cleaning too much is just as bad as cleaning not at all. Don't feel bad for my child, take your concern else where to where it is pertinent and not inflammatory. I was mentioning plastics specifically, which are known to release a synthetic estrogen into water when heated - so I don't microwave plastic *shrug*. It seems it is not clear just yet the effects of plastic wear and tear over time leaching into whatever they are containing, but studies on mice have shown some pretty nasty problems with their vaginal areas - so what can I say, when it comes to plastics I feel cautious with regards to the development of children. And that is not even getting into the male fetus still birth rates regarding other toxins. Is it so bad to show some concern as to how our enviroment can effect us, such as lead piping and lead based paints? Honestly, I thought you were better than making such wild assumptions cleverlymadeup, I have enjoyed reading some of your other posts in the past but this now casts them in a different light since you have made such baseless accusations about my parenting.

can i just say you're awesome? that has to be one of the best and most intelligent replies to an inflammatory statement i've ever seen.

plus, those muttonchops rule everybody and their grandma.