I actually don't like the "permabanned" avatar swap

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wintercoat

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JEBWrench said:
wintercoat said:
If it doesn't matter, then why change the avatar in the first place? If it didn't matter, the mods would just ban the person and be done with it. It comes off as immature and unprofessional, all for the sake of going "hurr durr permaban gif XD".
Removing avatars of permbanned peoples saves space on the server, and would cut time down on queries done in the database.
But their avatar isn't replaced, it's overlayed. As was mentioned by someone else, not everyone sees it. If anything, it'll take up more space. If space was an issue, they'd disable the banned accounts avatar.
 

The White Hunter

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Vegosiux said:
SkarKrow said:
Read it. Remember it applies to user groups and live chat too (some good Escapists fell to that!). Don't be a douche and don't low content. In as long as I've been here (probably over a year now? idk)I've had one warning and it was for low content, now I have a clean record again. To be honest, it's pretty hard to get yourself banned and you probably deserved it.
Why are you telling me this? I'm not banned, obviously? Yet I would still very much prefer to keep seeing the real avatars of people that were, even the ones I'd have shoved out the door with pleasure myself.

What's that? "Tough luck, bro"? Oh yea. The universal answer isn't it. *eyeroll*
I wasn't telling you specifically. If you can't follow the forum rules you'll eventually get banned, that's how it goes. Why should changing their avatar be such a big deal to you? Does it really have such a profound effect on you?

It's not a case of tough luck at all, it's a case of if you break the rules, take the punishment. The punishment involves a comedic replacement of your avatar.

Here's another thing: once permabanned, you won't be seeing their avatars around much anyway. I wonder why that might be?
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
wintercoat said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Love how the title of this thread is phased, like someone actually cared to ask you if liked it or not ¬_¬


What does it matter? The person is permabanned. As far as I'm concerned, if they couldn't avoid getting banned after 8 warnings then they're not a part of this community anymore.
If it doesn't matter, then why change the avatar in the first place? If it didn't matter, the mods would just ban the person and be done with it. It comes off as immature and unprofessional, all for the sake of going "hurr durr permaban gif XD".
I dunno, because it's funny I guess?

I know humour is subjective, but I smile when I see the GIF under the name of some user who still can't behave themselves after 8 warnings.
I get a warm fuzzy feeling when I see the gif under the name of somebody who's been douching up the forums for a few weeks too long and finally got theirs.
 

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SkarKrow said:
I wasn't telling you specifically. If you can't follow the forum rules you'll eventually get banned, that's how it goes. Why should changing their avatar be such a big deal to you? Does it really have such a profound effect on you?

It's not a case of tough luck at all, it's a case of if you break the rules, take the punishment. The punishment involves a comedic replacement of your avatar.

Here's another thing: once permabanned, you won't be seeing their avatars around much anyway. I wonder why that might be?
Okay, and when are you going to address the question of someone who's actually still around here, not banned, and not likely to be banned anytime soon, and still not liking to see those gifs?

Because I've been asking that one for a while now.

EDIT: Oh and also, I'd very much appreciate if people stayed away from the appeal to worse problems fallacy.
 

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It's needlessly demeaning. I mean, sure, I could get behind gloating, but I'd do it in a classy way, you know, stroking a goatee and a kitten.

Okay, what I'm trying to say here is I don't see a purpose behind it except for going "FUCK YEAH, BITCHSLAPPED!" at someone who can't defend. And that I see a user avatar as a rather personal thing, an extension of one's forum personality, and it's rude to mess with that. So they should have behaved so they don't get permabanned and they won't have that problem, you say? Sure, I suppose there's some truth in that. But adding insult to injury is childish.

That, and I haven't been permabanned and still have a problem with it...

Rant over.
I've gotta go with the first response and say it seems like a pretty silly thing to get upset/offended about.

Granted, I think the vast majority of things that people claim offend them are silly because I really hate Political Correctness, but that's just me.

As for the people getting permabanned...yeah, it's not like they're going to be making any new posts with an avatar that's been forced onto them. Their life on the forum is over...think of the permabanned avatar as a tombstone, not an insult. "Here lies one who could not obey the simple rules of the forum." You say the avatar is an extension of someone's personality on the forum. That I can agree with. But if they've been permabanned, their personality has officially left the forum...you won't be hearing from that personality again. In a matter of days the last posts they made will become buried and you won't be seeing their avatar - their real one or the changed one - anymore. So why bother getting upset over something that won't even be around in a couple days?

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Vegosiux said:
Okay, and when are you going to address the question of someone who's actually still around here, not banned, and not likely to be banned anytime soon, and still not liking to see those gifs?

Because I've been asking that one for a while now.
The easy answer is "Cry me a river then build a bridge and get over it." :p
 

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wintercoat said:
JEBWrench said:
wintercoat said:
If it doesn't matter, then why change the avatar in the first place? If it didn't matter, the mods would just ban the person and be done with it. It comes off as immature and unprofessional, all for the sake of going "hurr durr permaban gif XD".
Removing avatars of permbanned peoples saves space on the server, and would cut time down on queries done in the database.
But their avatar isn't replaced, it's overlayed. As was mentioned by someone else, not everyone sees it. If anything, it'll take up more space. If space was an issue, they'd disable the banned accounts avatar.
Just throwing out a suggestion as to why. Given that the majority of the work is client-side, having a convenient way to narrow down any queries could be considered proper form.
 

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How is this even an issue? Wow. People find the weirdest things to ***** about.
 

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I don't mind the avatar swap, but I do wish it could be something slightly more refined. Something like a black box with white text reading,

"Dear Sir or Madam, you have been banned

Hugs and Kisses
-Mods" That would be nice.
 

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Mr.PlanetEater said:
I don't mind the avatar swap, but I do wish it could be something slightly more refined. Something like a black box with white text reading,

"Dear Sir or Madam, you have been banned

Hugs and Kisses
-Mods" That would be nice.
Nay, good Sir! It should be a picture of a 40 being poured out on the sidewalk for the passing of our former homies.
 

Thistlehart

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You don't like it, eh? Fair enough.

I don't like that you don't like it. Seems a silly thing to get so bent-out-of-shape over.

Now where are we?

RJ 17 said:
The easy answer is "Cry me a river then build a bridge and get over it." :p
Whoa. And there it is, ladies and gentlemen. /thread
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Love how the title of this thread is phrased, like someone actually cared to ask you if liked it or not ¬_¬


What does it matter? The person is permabanned. As far as I'm concerned, if they couldn't avoid getting banned after 8 warnings then they're not a part of this community anymore.
What he said.
They're banned. They gave up the right to ***** about anything.
 

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It took me ages to figure out that people had their avatar changed to that when they got banned, I just figured there was a bunch of dickheads with that obnoxious avatar that all had just happened to have been banned.


EDIT: Oh god, my precious non-avatar. Destroyed. This is the worst day of my life.
 

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Weird. I've never seen that avatar before. I've even clicked on a banned persons profile once or twice and still haven't seen it before.

I have to agree with the OP though, it does seem rather petty and unnecessary.

It seems like it's somewhat unsportsmanlike to make fun of someone after they've been banned.
 

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Just look at the rather, uh, colourful language you are allowed to use. Just look at pretty much any of us - except, say, Saint Daystar Clarion - who post here with little to no restraints - we use nasty words, foul language, some of us seem to have verbal diarrhea; we posit sometimes extreme and extremely unpopular viewpoints, and we don't get spanked for it, because it's but human to err in the melonfarming vocabulary department when emotions go high and we don't feel like it's a Borg suit'n'tie event.

Some of the bans seem harsh, when people get banned for one-liners or similar n00bish infractions. Then again, I must say that I myself am pretty sick of one-liners. Just look at pretty much any video or video sharing site, and you'll see an approximate 0.0001% of one-liners actually being funny, the rest being of the illiterate, propagandist or plain stupid kind. Granted, those still seem to be rare here, but replying to a thread with one line or just one word is not proper style, and I welcome it being discouraged.

As for perma-bans... I tried to keep a tab on those, and all I can say is this: Just from superficial analysis I can say that I have not seen any 'unfair' perma-bans. People were asking for it, and most of them have been hard working on making it happen. Some, amongst them some very active and outspoken non-meat-eating forum members, seemed pretty instant but having had a look at some of the material they posted actually saw me worried about their in-the-flesh, IRL proximity to humans, animals, plants and inanimate objects.

The moment you manage to get perma-banned, why would anyone want to hold on to their avatar, and why should they be allowed to prolong their negativist, obnoxious and toxic presence?

I've been privvy to some personal interaction with some of those that are no longer with us and, yes, I can confirm that none of them were proper evil, but it's most likely a stupid person that will run you over, rob you blind, shoot you dead, eat your dog or rape your horse. Proper evil is rather rare, and the Escapist forums are no exception to that rather simple fact of life.
 

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TopazFusion said:
You can just go to their profile to see what their avatar used to be.

And anyway, it's not like they're going to be posting all around everywhere with that avatar. You'll only see it on very recent bans, or on thread necros.

For those who don't know what the OP is talking about . . .

That is immature and really stupid.
Real classy Escapist, real classy. ¬__¬

EDIT: Escapist, what little respect I still had for you has just plummeted.
 

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smithy_2045 said:
It took me ages to figure out that people had their avatar changed to that when they got banned, I just figured there was a bunch of dickheads with that obnoxious avatar that all had just happened to have been banned.


EDIT: Oh god, my precious non-avatar. Destroyed. This is the worst day of my life.
OOH! You filthy wordsmith from down below, you satanic whisperer, you lost soul from the abyss!

You bear the mark of evil! Begone, creature of the endless night! Thou shalt not poison our eternal souls with your disruptive ways!

Oh, and here's the captcha, added for emphasys:

live your dream
 

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This sum up my thought on the OP-

Well ok so far it seen only the OP cared about this.

Meh I have no sympathy to those who get banned anyway (seriously it's not hard to see the amount of warmings you get if you look at your health bar at your profile).

Those banned members didn't respect the mods, the guidlines/ rule set upon here and some other members opinions therefore they wouldn't be respected once they are banned (well ok some people did like a certain banned member but still). It's not like we are desecrating their gravestone.

Beside a few banned members had the default avatar if you don't get yourself an avatar anyway so it kind of given them a favour (how hard is it to pick something as a avatar? To me it look like that person couldn't bother to set one up.)

One way or another I bet this new avatar swap will add fuel that to that Escapist hating website.

EDIT- Great, you anger a mod well turned this silly thread to be even more funnier!