"I always let the Vanguard die."

[Bravo 21]

As a Vanguard, I can say with absolute certainty that there is one person who is more frustrating than us. The Extraction Pilot.
That's right, and I shall enlighten you as to why. Once, me and two others were playing, I was the Vanguard, there was a soldier, and an Infiltrator. We had played and excellent game, with me up front, the soldier somewhere in the middle, and the infil covering us both with the sniper rifle. Cut to the endgame, where we were getting on the shuttle out of there. Just prior to the very end, the infiltrator gets downed just a few metres outside the extraction zone. So I charged over there, saved him, and just before we could get back... Game over. Sole Survivor: the Soldier. So yeah fuck those pilots.

OT:Generally I try to support the team, but on bronze, fuck it, most classes can just do whatever they want most of the time, it's just generally easy.

Captcha: it happens... so fitting.

 

[Artemicion]

-snip-

Aaaand that's the best thing in the entire topic. So true.

 

[The Metalist]

Meh. I generally help anyone I can. But if a vanguard charges across the map, he's on his own. However if he charges just out of cover, my tech armour will generally let me help them. Personally, I think that anyone who doesn't help their teammates is either really confident, stupid or capable.(capable but still a colossal twat.)

 

[lordlillen]

when i play vangaurd i notice im the one doing most of the healing because i can charge and nova the basterd who tries to excecute my teammate.

 

[GundamSentinel]

I always try my best to revive everyone, if it doesn't put me in considerable danger or the player isn't behaving like a complete jackass, irrespective of class. Me, I sometimes play as Vanguard, but often as Infiltrator or Soldier as well, and I don't begrudge other people getting ridiculous scores. If I'm on the bottom of the scoreboard, but I feel like I've contributed, I'm happy.

 

[Elamdri]

I think if you fail to revive a Vanguard who you can safely revive because you dislike Vanguards and how they play, then you're a pretty poor sport. If it's because they're dead in a dangerous position, be it their fault or bad luck, well that's a different story.

What I don't get is people's dislike of Vanguards in bronze. What are we supposed to do? Purposely play poorly so that you don't feel so bad that your number on the pause screen isn't so much smaller than ours?

Biotic charge and nova is the most effective bronze level strategy for a Vanguard. It completely wrecks any enemy and the Vanguard is nearly immortal when doing so since they can completely refill their shields roughly every 3 seconds.

It's absolutely ridiculous to complain about someone doing the most efficient and effective strategy available to them. What's next, are we going to start complaining about infiltrators and headshots? Or what about adepts and biotic explosions?

Also, if having this much fun is wrong, I don't want to be right (Warning: Language)

 

[michiehoward]

Everyone I have played with has been supportive of my vanguard.
But maybe because I do not stupidly charge into a hornets nest of enemies every 10 secs.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Vanguards that understand that maybe on wave 8 or 9 they should start being a bit more careful are okay with me, It's the ones that go charging off on their own and expect you to res them when they get swarmed that are annoying.

 

[Elfgore]

I can live with Vanguards because even as an engineer I'm always top of the board. But I get really pissed when they are to busy uses biotic charge while waiting to get extracted and causing everybody the full extraction bonus, but then they make up for it in kills. I mean I like vanguards I play as them. But stay in the damn extraction point. You have a gun use it.

 

[PaganAxe]

I just unlocked the asari vanguard yesterday and started tearing shit up with her and the disciple shotgun. I'm typically smart about using her though. I know enough not to go charging into a prime surrounded by three hunters and two pyros. Charge has saved my life in a few situations though. I use it in close range to replenish my barriers. Then I can just finish them off with the disciple or with melees.

 

[Ch4llen]

I think if you play as a Vanguard and keep on rushing into unknown territory and getting killed, that's your problem. I prefer only charging close enemies and moving around with the team. In higher levels its normally the Vanguard who charges in, takes down the shields with nova and then an infiltrator takes the kill with the headshot.

 

[Gerishnakov]

I've definitely noticed Vanguard blitzing in a couple of matches. Generally I've found the best strategy is to chase them around and hope for the best.

On another note I unlocked the Turian soldier - how awesome are they?!

EDIT: I'm also still miffed how they changed the Sentinel's tech armour so it no longer gives you an instant shield refill. Seeing as Sentinels were originally meant to basically be the medics of Mass Effect, the instant shield refill would make reviving team mates in ME3 MP a lot easier. I loved ME2's Sentinel.

 

[Tohuvabohu]

I've definitely noticed Vanguard blitzing in a couple of matches. Generally I've found the best strategy is to chase them around and hope for the best.

On another note I unlocked the Turian soldier - how awesome are they?!

EDIT: I'm also still miffed how they changed the Sentinel's tech armour so it no longer gives you an instant shield refill. Seeing as Sentinels were originally meant to basically be the medics of Mass Effect, the instant shield refill would make reviving team mates in ME3 MP a lot easier. I loved ME2's Sentinel.

Tech Armor exploded every single time your shields were taken out in ME2. Now it's pretty much permanent and gives a flat damage protection which also protects your health, on top of boosting your shields. You can now explode the tech armor manually, which is pretty awesome.

Still, I liked ME2's Sentinel better. And even considering the changes to Tech Armor in ME3, it was much more useful in ME2.

 

[boag]

I see a lot of complaints agaisnt Vanguards being lobbied by people that Play Sniper.... worse yet Soldier Sniper. If you dont see what is wrong with this, you will never complete a Gold Mission.

 

[TakeshiLive]

Leave your Vanguards for gold.... pleeeze.... I beg of you.

Alright, bring him/her for silver if you're confident but there ain't no chance in hell I'm saving you from your own stupidity.

As for snipers, a little quote from a professional: "Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
Er okay... maybe not the last bit. Stay effective and efficent and we'll all get along fine.

 

[Drizzitdude]

(though the infiltrator on the team got in quite a few himself, the sneaky bastard). It's not something that I'll make a habit of, but it was made quite clear that the vanguard class is a broken, overpowered character.

So, Escapists, my question is this: Do you let the vanguard die? If not, what tactics do you adopt to stay competitive with one?

Wow your infiltrator musthave sucked. I just finished my last match; 75 headshots as an infiltrator the vanguard just couldn't keep up to me kill wise between the 2 other players (both soldiers).

Also while it may seem that the vanguard is overpowered at first try playing on silver or gold difficulties and you will find his dmg output DRAMATICALLY reduced. Without being able to perform an instant kill the vanguard loses a great deal of its potential and becomes more of a risk having than a benefit. The only vanguard I have seen perform reliably well on gold was one who was using a pistol to max his power recharge so the second he would nova he could charge again to get his shields back.

Also, watch a vanguard go up again a guardian from the front. soooooooooooo funny.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

Saw something today that made me WANT this guy to just die. Every time I see a vanguard with a sniper rifle (especially the Widow) all I think is "this asshole is just here to get kills. He has no delusions about this being a team game at all"

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

When I play multiplayer with my girlfriend, just the two of us, I admit she dies a lot more than I do. She is always a vanguard and I am constantly leaving her to fight off waves of enemies while I cloak to do other stuff. That is how infiltrators roll though!

 

[Elamdri]

Also, watch a vanguard go up again a guardian from the front. soooooooooooo funny.

It's not that hard actually. Charge them, scope in with your heavy pistol while they are staggered, put two in their head, and they're dead.

 

[Elamdri]

The only vanguard I have seen perform reliably well on gold was one who was using a pistol to max his power recharge so the second he would nova he could charge again to get his shields back.

If a Vanguard isn't using just a pistol, he's an idiot.