I can fix the economy

[Ancientgamer]

The enconomy is just going through it's usual cycle, it's not the end of the world. Companies vie for power. A few come out on top, forming the larger mega corporations. The enterprises continue to grow until they reach an unsustainable level. They fall. It all starts over again.

That's how capitalism works.

 

[-Drifter-]

By not giving money, you may be speaking of one or more things. Please be specific.

A) Are you suggesting that we boycott companies because they are big?
B) Are you suggesting that the government allows companies that are to die, to die, rather than bailing them out with taxpayer money? (as the clear bias in the wording suggests, I could potentially get behind this concept)

The bailout to me sort of suggests that the government doesn't believe in it's own system. If your going to be capitalist, you better start acting like it!

 

[Kollega]

theres no one working at the car makers, theres just a bunch of robots.
and i dont feel sorry about fireing robots. because they are robots.

Sorry,but there's still lots of people involved in a car-making industry. Despite existence of industrial robots,there still is some duties that people perform much better than robots. For example,seats and interior installation. Besides,someone's got to work in maintainence for all those robots. And program them.

 

[Leorex]

the way i figure it if you need a bail out your to big, and the government needs to break you up into smaller company's.

 

[flare09]

Too bad big companies don't work like that.

 

[YuheJi]

I think we just need to fuck up with the banks and let them fold so we can watch how the BEG for more money and tell that the people need them.

That would probably kill the economy and possibly the country. The banks are the ones that create the money in our economy via loans. Most of the money in circulation doesn't actually exist; banks loan out money that they expect to get back. That essentially is creating money, which can stimulate the economy if people do eventually pay back (which has obviously been the problem).

 

[Timotei]

Think of a jungle or tropical rain forest. When a large tree falls, the light that was confined to the treetops shines down to the forest floor, giving energy to the smaller plants and helping them grow. If that tree were, just for an example, AIG or GM, then smaller companies would fill the gap left by the original giant.

Seeing as how giving these huge companies money didn't really work, the only other option is to NOT give them money.

Thoughts?

My Failometer is in the FACEPALM zone.

 

[Skeleon]

Yeah, do it. I'll be sure to tell the German car industry that America is ripe for... investment. Nyanyanyah.
Long story short: There's plenty of big companies left that'll take their place and form some kind of monopoly. We don't want that.

 

[A random person]

Uh, money isn't sunlight. Businesses don't block it, they distribute it.

 

[fulano]

I think we just need to fuck up with the banks and let them fold so we can watch how the BEG for more money and tell that the people need them.

That would probably kill the economy and possibly the country. The banks are the ones that create the money in our economy via loans. Most of the money in circulation doesn't actually exist; banks loan out money that they expect to get back. That essentially is creating money, which can stimulate the economy if people do eventually pay back (which has obviously been the problem).

Sorry but...wha-wha-WHAT?!

First of all you are going a bit overboard when saying that banks are the ones that create the money, and via LOANS, worse of all. I'm sorry, but that's crap, and that is assuming we just let the banks fold and not create new ones in their place, managed by different people.

Second, the real problem in the first place is that you have wealth, invisible wealth, that has no material representation in the real world. Just what is it that money is? A concept, now all of a sudden?

Wealth has to have something real to represent it, otherwise you have the shit that we're all in.
Jeez...I mean, by getting loans, meaning credit, which most oftentime came from invisible wealth, you are getting yourself into a debt that then you are supposed to pay with your real hard earned money because you played with their fake money. Now, shit has blown over and people can't pay their magic money, but the debt didn't go away.

Makes sense to you? Fuck no.

Even if you are a hard-nosed proponent of capitalism you have to admit that that's not how it works--and in fact that's why it's failing.

P.D: Don't mistake this for me being disrespectful, it's just that sometimes I'm flabergasted at the things that I see.

 

[trombone2007]

Think of a jungle or tropical rain forest. When a large tree falls, the light that was confined to the treetops shines down to the forest floor, giving energy to the smaller plants and helping them grow. If that tree were, just for an example, AIG or GM, then smaller companies would fill the gap left by the original giant.

Seeing as how giving these huge companies money didn't really work, the only other option is to NOT give them money.

Thoughts?

My Failometer is in the FACEPALM zone.

Thanks for the great feedback. I'll be sure to ask you for your advice in everything I do from now on.

 

[chronobreak]

theres no one working at the car makers, theres just a bunch of robots.
and i dont feel sorry about fireing robots. because they are robots.

There are over 1 million Americans in the Auto Workers Industry, friend. I really hope you aren't being serious right now.

 

[letsnoobtehpwns]

If you can fix the economy, then do it. I'm tired of hearing people ***** about it just to sound more political!

 

[Screens]

I'm wondering as to how exactly several small companies can fill the gap left by the collapse of giant trust.

I can see a hole in your analogy, also. The difficulty is that you assume that all trees are sized roughly equally. While that works in ecology, the fact of the matter is, companies like GM and AIG completely dwarf smaller companies. A better analogy than trees might be a tree, to something more along the lines of a sprout. That sprout is going to take decades to grow to the size of the giant, while the giant will probably keep on growing. Actually, the sprout has a better chance of dying than the giant, simply because of the enormous size of the tree. The odds of a sprout taking the place of a tree is slim to none.

 

[PyroZombie]

So your to say we should all take axes and cut down the buildings?

 

[Valiance]

Think of a jungle or tropical rain forest. When a large tree falls, the light that was confined to the treetops shines down to the forest floor, giving energy to the smaller plants and helping them grow. If that tree were, just for an example, AIG or GM, then smaller companies would fill the gap left by the original giant.

Seeing as how giving these huge companies money didn't really work, the only other option is to NOT give them money.

Thoughts?

Holy shit, batman, not rewarding companies for bad performance with 60 billion dollar taxpayer bailouts? WOAH!!!

Actually understanding that GM will never be where Honda, and Toyota are? That they've been working with products design to prematurely fail for years and if they changed now would be too far behind in manufacturing skills?

Or perhaps reading Ralph Nader's book about GM eventually failing 40 years before they did? (Unsafe at Any Speed. Grossman Publishers, 1965.), eh?

Wait! I might have it! How about you take that 60 billion dollars and give 300,000 dollars to every single taxpa- *is shot*

 

[PatientGrasshopper]

Think of a jungle or tropical rain forest. When a large tree falls, the light that was confined to the treetops shines down to the forest floor, giving energy to the smaller plants and helping them grow. If that tree were, just for an example, AIG or GM, then smaller companies would fill the gap left by the original giant.

Seeing as how giving these huge companies money didn't really work, the only other option is to NOT give them money.

Thoughts?

I agree, government intervention always interfere with the natural course of things. Sometimes we should just let companies take their course and the economy will be better for it in the long run.