I can't finish Final Fantasy 7...

[Bourne Endeavor]

I didn't feel that way with FF7, but I did in Chrono Cross, after Serge slips into an alternate dimension in which he drowned ten years ago. Just couldn't play it after that.

Missed out on an amazing JRPG although if that is not your taste so be it.

WOW. Really? That's your hang up? An amazing development lacking story about redemption and friendship someone trying to save the world and you're stuck on just one part of the story? Keep Stop playing, it gets no better.

Fixed that for you! :O)

The amount of "THIS IS MY OPINION!" could not be shouted any further; granted from an unbiased view point, no FFVII does not have a resoundingly groundbreaking storyline however it is far from a weak point, at least not to the extent it is being made out to be in this thread. The fact so many have attempted to attribute logic to these Fantasy games is mind boggling, especially when you consider WRPGs do that precise same thing.

You know in Mass Effect how your squad mates die in combat but suddenly rise up from the dead once you have eliminated the threat? Yep perfectly logical. They are video games people, not real life, whining about battle mechanics and storyline not meshing together is ridiculous. If you dislike the game, cheers for you. Guess what? I found Baldur's Gate significantly inferior to Final Fantasy X, Xenogears, Suikoden II, Lunar and many other titles. Why? It is a wonderful concept I believed called: "Personal preference"

 

[IckleMissMayhem]

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The amount of "THIS IS MY OPINION!" could not be shouted any further; granted from an unbiased view point, no FFVII does not have a resoundingly groundbreaking storyline however it is far from a weak point, at least not to the extent it is being made out to be in this thread. The fact so many of attempted to attribute logic to these Fantasy games is mind boggling, especially when you consider WRPGs do that precise same thing.

They are video games people, not real life, whining about battle mechanics and storyline not meshing together is ridiculous. If you dislike the game, cheers for you. Guess what? I found Baldur's Gate significantly inferior to Final Fantasy X, Xenogears, Suikoden II, Lunar and many other titles. Why? It is a wonderful concept I believed called: "Personal preference"

Sorry, but if I'm playing an RPG, or an FPS for that matter, I want a decent storyline to back it up. Otherwise I think I may as well be pushing buttons connected to a blank screen - what's the bloody point?! At least in other FF games the storyline was a lot more appealing (FFVIII/IX/FFX)

And yes, it was my opinion. Never tried to pass it off as fact. I don't get angry or upset with people who enjoy(-ed) FFVII, just I personally hated that game. And don't try to "I'm unbiased..." yada-yada-yada me, I don't believe anyone can be truly unbiased about anything or anyone.

For those who are attempting to logic-ise Aeris' death... IIRC, Cloud was the only one present, and Sephiroth had taken control of him, so he wouldn't have been able to do anything to stop her being made into Aeris-kebabs, or heal/revive her afterwards. As I've already said, my memory of FFVII may be a little bit hazy, I tried to forget as much as possible about the game, as it irritated me intensely.

 

[Space Spoons]

Many people who complain about Aeris' death seem to misunderstand why it actually happened. Sephiroth wasn't doing it out of spite, or just to be evil. He was doing it because Aeris was praying for Holy, a spell that could easily put an end to his plan before it even became apparent what his ultimate goal was.

Also, this was hardly the first time a Final Fantasy character was killed irreversibly. Tellah, Palom and Porom in Final Fantasy IV, Hydra and Galuf in Final Fantasy V, General Leo and the Espers in Final Fantasy VI...

 

[Littaly]

Final Fantasy is that way, it separates story from gameplay. What you do in the battles has very little to do with what you do outside, the only thing that essentially matters is the outcome of the important ones. All the level grinding is non-canon. That's the way it is, either you deal with it or you don't, but in that case there's no use complaining.

 

[KEGman321]

Spoiler: phoenix downs in Final Fantasy

In Final Fantasy V when Galuf dies all the other characters use phoenix downs and cure spells, but outside of battle they actually die, inside of battle they get K.O.'d or knocked out.

 

[Space Spoons]

Many people who complain about Aeris' death seem to misunderstand why it actually happened. Sephiroth wasn't doing it out of spite, or just to be evil. He was doing it because Aeris was praying for Holy, a spell that could easily put an end to his plan before it even became apparent what his ultimate goal was.

Also, this was hardly the first time a Final Fantasy character was killed irreversibly. Tellah, Palom and Porom in Final Fantasy IV, Hydra and Galuf in Final Fantasy V, General Leo and the Espers in Final Fantasy VI...

lolwat? The Mysidia elder saves them later on.

It's still a death that the characters can't be revived from using normal means (phoenix down, life magic, gold needles, esuna). It counts.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Sorry, but if I'm playing an RPG, or an FPS for that matter, I want a decent storyline to back it up. Otherwise I think I may as well be pushing buttons connected to a blank screen - what's the bloody point?! At least in other FF games the storyline was a lot more appealing (FFVIII/IX/FFX)

And yes, it was my opinion. Never tried to pass it off as fact. I don't get angry or upset with people who enjoy(-ed) FFVII, just I personally hated that game. And don't try to "I'm unbiased..." yada-yada-yada me, I don't believe anyone can be truly unbiased about anything or anyone.

For those who are attempting to logic-ise Aeris' death... IIRC, Cloud was the only one present, and Sephiroth had taken control of him, so he wouldn't have been able to do anything to stop her being made into Aeris-kebabs, or heal/revive her afterwards. As I've already said, my memory of FFVII may be a little bit hazy, I tried to forget as much as possible about the game, as it irritated me intensely.

You gave a strong insinuation you were attempting to claim it as fact by just "correcting" the post I quoted. Perhaps I am to accustom to that being the usual trend, it happens frequently on Gfaqs. Anyhow in the case of FFVII, I can give an unbiased opinion because it is not my ideal game. I enjoyed it for what it was however it is undoubtedly lacking in many aspects and hardly the game of the year fans make it out to be.

Particularly the first portion and up until you reach Kalm where Cloud explains Sephiroth was an horrid mess to the extent I thought of writing off the game, only not doing so because of the hype I figured it had to get better and for me it managed to improve tremendously from that point but is a far cry from the storylines in later FF titles (FFX's especially) and other games.

The story was decent that I would not toss it under a bus though but ultimately we agree. I'll avoid a game if I cannot enjoy the storyline, despite the popularity of it. Suikoden III is one of those games I just cannot play although so many claim how wonderful it was. In comparison to the first two, it deviated too significantly for my liking.

 

[PrinceoN]

As the OP for this thread, I have to ask...

Why is this thread still alive? I appriciate your guy's enthusiasm but... This topic was explained and ended a long time ago o.o

 

[Rafe]

She's dead, not knocked out.

I found it to be a very powerful moving scene in the game, maybe your not suited to JRPG's (No idea if that's a good thing or not).

 

[Rafe]

Many people who complain about Aeris' death seem to misunderstand why it actually happened. Sephiroth wasn't doing it out of spite, or just to be evil. He was doing it because Aeris was praying for Holy, a spell that could easily put an end to his plan before it even became apparent what his ultimate goal was.

Also, this was hardly the first time a Final Fantasy character was killed irreversibly. Tellah, Palom and Porom in Final Fantasy IV, Hydra and Galuf in Final Fantasy V, General Leo and the Espers in Final Fantasy VI...

lolwat? The Mysidia elder saves them later on.

Ah yes, Final Fantasy IV - where it was cool to kill off every ugly character for the sake of a powerful story(?)

 

[Rafe]

Many people who complain about Aeris' death seem to misunderstand why it actually happened. Sephiroth wasn't doing it out of spite, or just to be evil. He was doing it because Aeris was praying for Holy, a spell that could easily put an end to his plan before it even became apparent what his ultimate goal was.

Also, this was hardly the first time a Final Fantasy character was killed irreversibly. Tellah, Palom and Porom in Final Fantasy IV, Hydra and Galuf in Final Fantasy V, General Leo and the Espers in Final Fantasy VI...
lolwat? The Mysidia elder saves them later on.

Ah yes, Final Fantasy IV - where it was cool to kill off every ugly character for the sake of a powerful story(?)

Nobody was killed off but Tellah. Everyone else showed up again later.

Nooooo!!!! I haven't finished it yet!!!!

Oh well it was my fault for discussing FF IV when I'm just near the end.

 

[mattiboi24]

FF7 definitely deserves to be revisited by SquareEnix, more than FF4-6. >_> Most of the story problems could be fixed with better translations and nicer graphics to help pass the time at the slower parts.

I played through ff7, and I'm sorry.
You can't call "bad translation" on that crap of a story. Granted it didn't have as many plot holes as 8 but it was still terrible.

Kefka would kick that momma's boy ass anyway . I'm sorry insane clown that actually destroys the world vs a mother complex who couldn't quite "finish" the job. Yes that is a sexual pun.

Kefka had no depth compared to Sephiroth. I mean, finding out you're a genetic experiment made to be the perfect soldier? Sure that parts a little cliche, but on top of that you're technically directly descended from a weapon of mass destruction that travels the universe in search of planets to destroy? That's a bit heavier than being an sadistic megalomaniac who's so insecure he needs the power of the gods to make himself feel important.

I really do think that Cloud's story could have been AMAZING if it had been organized a little better. >_> Along with a bit more dialogue to fill in the gaping holes in explanation which were only really filled by that random hidden cutscene and Crisis Core (although Crisis Core caused many problems as well... >_>).

but that just makes Kefka all the more fun. Plus that damn laugh.
I'd rather have a character with little depth but make sense and be an all-around better character, then someone with too much depth his character get tangled up in it.

His laugh IS pretty cool... >_> And he IS a transvestite... (C'mon, he totally wears make-up for no reason and it looks like he's wearing a shawl.)

 

[Above]

Sephiroth got up to when he has the wings...then i got "Pwn3d "