I can't get into Baldur's Gate...
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I took that screenshot...I was certainly in some troubleAnthraxus said:
I honestly can't remember how I came out the other side of that.I have to admit, if you're impatient, don't, DON'T start as a wizard, it took some will to get me through the Nashkel mines (yeah, I'm not exactly good at BG)
Kobold commandos can wreck your shit even if yer careful; Hobgoblins however, can be easily minced a few levels in.
If memory serves, that's the optional dungeon that runs between Ulcaster Ruins and Firewine Bridge. That place is deadly for low level groups! Lots of traps, a few dangerous mid-level creatures, and those damned kobolds.Bertylicious said:
Never underestimate kobolds, even in BG2 they can pack a punch if there are enough of them. Kobold Commando have been the bane of many an adventurer. On the bright side taking down a group of them means tons of magical arrows to loot, and in BG1 magic arrows are amazing. Any sort of arrow really, archers absolutely dominate in BG1. It's only in the higher levels towards mid BG2 that they begin to become less dominant a weapon as powerful magic and awesome armour comes into play.
As for that location, there's a bounty hunter around the eastern edges of the wilds by Firewine Bridge that drops one of the best gauntlet in the game if I remember right. One of those things you only discover after exploring!
Reasons why you failing at getting immersed into Baldurs gate
1. You have not left candlekeep, what the hell did you expect? Of course your not going to be able to swing and hit everything on the first go you barely have any perks and bonuses yet. There is no Free pre-purchase dlc with a 1000 damage dagger as a complimentary weapon.
2. Use space-bar frequently, and the number keys and F1-F10 keys to quickly select what you want. The combat is actually some of the best in reality you just looking at the animations which kind of makes me think you played too much Dragon Age or some MMO. Its all based on D+D rules and random die rolls you are blaming a system on its built which is kind of sad.
Its like blaming Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron and all those games for having bad combat but have a really advanced system in place. It just doesn't cut the cheese your argument for me. Especially since this game is regarded as an all time classic rpg.
3. Your character is built incorrectly. Make sure you put the statistics and get good die rolls before you even start the game. One of the biggest mistakes I made especially was putting 18 in Charisms for my sorceror in Icewind Dale 2 when the affected attributes have changed. If your a warrior make sure you have at least 18 Strength and 14-15 of Dexterity and Constitution.
Of course, did you really think you would beat it in the first go? It took me three characters to get the hang of it. Bite the bullet and play on.
1. You have not left candlekeep, what the hell did you expect? Of course your not going to be able to swing and hit everything on the first go you barely have any perks and bonuses yet. There is no Free pre-purchase dlc with a 1000 damage dagger as a complimentary weapon.
2. Use space-bar frequently, and the number keys and F1-F10 keys to quickly select what you want. The combat is actually some of the best in reality you just looking at the animations which kind of makes me think you played too much Dragon Age or some MMO. Its all based on D+D rules and random die rolls you are blaming a system on its built which is kind of sad.
Its like blaming Crusader Kings, Hearts of Iron and all those games for having bad combat but have a really advanced system in place. It just doesn't cut the cheese your argument for me. Especially since this game is regarded as an all time classic rpg.
3. Your character is built incorrectly. Make sure you put the statistics and get good die rolls before you even start the game. One of the biggest mistakes I made especially was putting 18 in Charisms for my sorceror in Icewind Dale 2 when the affected attributes have changed. If your a warrior make sure you have at least 18 Strength and 14-15 of Dexterity and Constitution.
Of course, did you really think you would beat it in the first go? It took me three characters to get the hang of it. Bite the bullet and play on.
The best way to enjoy BGT is with a full party of friends. In a single room or via voice chat. Removes all the tedium of group management but adds the probably greatest feeling of "every role has something to contribute" in the history of gaming (that's pretty much the only thing DnD ever got right).
You can turn off auto-pause and use spacebar when you need to issue commands instead. Also, BG2 is a much better game to start with I think. Playing BG1 isn't exactly necessary to get into it, and the beginning doesn't drag as much. The characters start at a higher level too, so combat is a bit more of a braintease with all the abilities available to the party.
I can almost quarantee that you'd like them if you just stuck with it...but I can see why getting into them would be agonizing in this day and age. They haven't aged well.
I can almost quarantee that you'd like them if you just stuck with it...but I can see why getting into them would be agonizing in this day and age. They haven't aged well.
If Baldurs fence has gaps in then you could always try to fit your arm through and undo the gate from the other side?
Aye, but DnD (even ADnD) has always been very well balanced, and that carries over to Baldur's Gate. Don't get me wrong - I do enjoy the single player campaign, but ever since I started playing it in MP with some friends, I feel that the multiplayer experience is even more fun.Anthraxus said:
By the contribution part I mean that every party member has their moment to shine, to be heroic, to save everybody else's rear.
It might be because I - usually the GM in our role-playing rounds - finally get to play for a change. It might be because I enjoy cooperative multiplayer experiences more than competitive ones by default. We as a group enjoy it immensely though, and I can only recommend trying it out if one feels that the single player campaign is not their thing (with tedium I was referring to the OP's impression of the practice fight).
I enjoy the combat system, but can see why it isn't to everybody's taste. (Hell, I can't stand the Diablo combat system)
With this in mind, the first few hours of Baldur's Gate 1 are among the most harrowing experiences in gaming if you don't know what you are doing. Doubly so if you are a Mage. By don't know what you are doing, I mean have not have intimate knowledge of DND second edition.
(In this respect, BG2 did a far better job... and even then it is very poor).
My first run though (many, many years ago), I didn't realise you could rest outdoors or in mines. That made life difficult. Indeed, when compounded with my ignorance in other areas, I still twitch slightly when somebody mentions kobolds.
So, with this in mind, why should you continue? Why is it great?
Well, once you get the hang of it, the combat system results in some great, complex, tactical battles. The story pretty good (sure, ain't Shakespeare, but night and day above the vast majority of computer game story lines). Memorable characters.
Most importantly, I have yet to play a game that encapsulates the spirit of adventure so well.
(In this respect I prefer the original Baldur's Gate to it's sequel.)
So, if you can, get out of Candlekeep. Get a few party members. Set off into the wild. You will never look back.
With this in mind, the first few hours of Baldur's Gate 1 are among the most harrowing experiences in gaming if you don't know what you are doing. Doubly so if you are a Mage. By don't know what you are doing, I mean have not have intimate knowledge of DND second edition.
(In this respect, BG2 did a far better job... and even then it is very poor).
My first run though (many, many years ago), I didn't realise you could rest outdoors or in mines. That made life difficult. Indeed, when compounded with my ignorance in other areas, I still twitch slightly when somebody mentions kobolds.
So, with this in mind, why should you continue? Why is it great?
Well, once you get the hang of it, the combat system results in some great, complex, tactical battles. The story pretty good (sure, ain't Shakespeare, but night and day above the vast majority of computer game story lines). Memorable characters.
Most importantly, I have yet to play a game that encapsulates the spirit of adventure so well.
(In this respect I prefer the original Baldur's Gate to it's sequel.)
So, if you can, get out of Candlekeep. Get a few party members. Set off into the wild. You will never look back.
What? Are you joking? AD&D? Balanced? It's about the least balanced thing in the known universe. It would be funny if they had made any pretence towards balance but the fact of the matter is that not only was balance not a consideration, but its unlikely the developers even realised that there was any reason for it to be a consideration. The fun of Baldurs Gate is taking something that unbalanced and breaking the hell out of it.Monsterfurby said:
Baldur's Gate 1 is TOUGH the first time around. I'd almost recommend starting with the second one and then playing the first one if you're struggling with the combat. Though there's something to be said for experiencing the whole story in order on your first playthrough.
Another option would be to play Torment first. It's a better game, and while the combat is worse in terms of weapons and abilities, it's structured almost identically and is much easier.
Another option would be to play Torment first. It's a better game, and while the combat is worse in terms of weapons and abilities, it's structured almost identically and is much easier.
turn off the automatic pauses so you only pause it manually with the space bar when you want. Later, you can re-add options as you see fit.
There's a little learning curve, yes, but after not very long it becomes a lot more intuitive, particularly as you learn to use your party members' abilities, the abilities you use most often, etc. It's not as immediately accessible as a modern game, but I assure you it's worth sticking with.
There's a little learning curve, yes, but after not very long it becomes a lot more intuitive, particularly as you learn to use your party members' abilities, the abilities you use most often, etc. It's not as immediately accessible as a modern game, but I assure you it's worth sticking with.
kyosai7 said:
Well, the interface is horrible for modern standards, there's nothing you can do about that (unless the upcoming HD remake greatly improves it). But most people (me including) actually enjoy the combat. There are some options regarding the pauses, you can pretty much disable them completely (though that's going to make the game very difficult).
But if even so you really don't like it, the game is pretty much not for you. It's as simple as that.