I don't care

[Jesse Willadson]

I would like to start this post with a short story. I've been playing games sense I was three, so when I graduated high school, after taking a year break, I go to school for game design. After going to school for a year and a half I discover 2 thing, 1: I wanted a more academic minded setting (thus me now majoring in anthropology and psychology) and 2. I am not a fan of gaming culture.

I don't really like the pressure, the fans, or even talking about games to a wide range of people. I can break down games, criticize them, etc.... But I don't want to, I rather just play and enjoy. So now I make games on the side (though I am procrastinating like a mother fucker), and go to school for the above mentioned fields.

My question is, does anyone else feel like this. That they just like to play games for fun not caring if its not original, has glitches, etc....

Just to point out quick, I don't beleive that discussion shouldn't take place, far from it, I just don't have a desire to participate in said discussion

 

[FalloutJack]

I would like to start this post with a short story. I've been playing games sense I was three, so when I graduated high school, after taking a year break, I go to school for game design. After going to school for a year and a half I discover 2 thing, 1: I wanted a more academic minded setting (thus me now majoring in anthropology and psychology) and 2. I am not a fan of gaming culture.

I don't really like the pressure, the fans, or even talking about games to a wide range of people. I can break down games, criticize them, etc.... But I don't want to, I rather just play and enjoy. So now I make games on the side (though I am procrastinating like a mother fucker), and go to school for the above mentioned fields.

My question is, does anyone else feel like this. That they just like to play games for fun not caring if its not original, has glitches, etc....

Just to point out quick, I don't beleive that discussion shouldn't take place, far from it, I just don't have a desire to participate in said discussion

Well, actually, I AM one such person who's in it for the fun. However, there are a couple things that I should say about your opening statement here.

First, it's really not necessary to advertise your displeasure about the things that bug you in gaming on a gaming forum. Don't want to get in on the discussion? Leave it alone. I do.

Second, you will agree that a glitch which interferes WITH said fun is something to be paid attention to.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Yeah, I play games for fun. Tf2 is fun and original, etc.

However, dont want to get involved In the discussion? You picked the wrong website to complain in.

 

[Lilani]

My question is, does anyone else feel like this. That they just like to play games for fun not caring if its not original, has glitches, etc....

Different strokes for different folks. You like fun? That's great, I'm certain others do too. Though I'll give you this particular community does like to think it's full of well-informed game critics. So on the surface, it seems like almost none of us can play a game and give it the benefit of the doubt. But, this site being the home of Yahtzee, it's sort of a magnet for the nitpicking mentality. we are, by no means, an accurate representation of the majority of gamers.

You probably feel alone in your view of games because your "type" isn't exactly prone to sharing what you think in public outlets like this. Your position is basically neutrality, and there's not really a need to make some huge stand pointing that out. Gamers like you exist, but because of their nature they don't have a lot to say and don't call a lot of attention to themselves. So I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. Carry on, play the way you like. The only thing you can ever really do wrong is play in a way you don't like.

 

[Vault101]

no...because I like my games to be good

and I have this thing called "taste" which can also be applyed to movies and music

 

[subtlefuge]

Soooo the opposite. I adore the culture more than the games themselves.

I've actually gotten to where if I need to kill time by myself, I'll watch part of a let's play instead of playing a game. Not shitty youtube ones mind you, but ones from the SA subforum.

Talking about games holds more appeal than playing for any extended time. I'll still play with friends, but outside of my 3DS, I don't really play games on my own.

Also, I love quirkiness in games. As made evident by my yearly playthrough of Earthbound.

 

[Epona]

So you make games now but you don't want to discuss them? You need to pay attention to likes and dislikes from gamers so you're game doesn't contain things people hate (like QTE's, unskippable cutscenes) and does contain things people like such as RPG elements.

 

[DanielBrown]

For fun, sure, but mainly because I'm really addicted to trophies/achievements. Would've bought a lot less games if it wasn't for that cursed mechanic!

 

[RanD00M]

You are never the only one ever. This is something that I can not emphasize enough.

I would also like to welcome, you the OP, to the Escapist. You may have joined it at a prefect time to dodge all meaningful gaming discussion threads, so well done I guess.

However, dont want to get involved In the discussion? You picked the wrong website to complain in.

By whatever do you mean? There is only one board that's aimed specifically at gaming discussions. He might have interest in the Off-Topic discussions, the forum games, or if he's truly insane the R&P discussions.

 

[Phishfood]

I would like to start this post with a short story. I've been playing games sense I was three, so when I graduated high school, after taking a year break, I go to school for game design. After going to school for a year and a half I discover 2 thing, 1: I wanted a more academic minded setting (thus me now majoring in anthropology and psychology) and 2. I am not a fan of gaming culture.

I don't really like the pressure, the fans, or even talking about games to a wide range of people. I can break down games, criticize them, etc.... But I don't want to, I rather just play and enjoy. So now I make games on the side (though I am procrastinating like a mother fucker), and go to school for the above mentioned fields.

My question is, does anyone else feel like this. That they just like to play games for fun not caring if its not original, has glitches, etc....

Just to point out quick, I don't beleive that discussion shouldn't take place, far from it, I just don't have a desire to participate in said discussion

Nah, I'm mostly the same. Games are fun. They don't cause violence, just because all the people you are shooting at are wearing a towel on their head does not make a game racist. Also, I don't give a crap what platform you play on. I may occasionally whine about a console port, since I am primarily a PC gamer, but that generally happens only when the game is clearly suffering because of the port. *cough* Skyrim's menu *cough*.

I don't mind discussing them though, bar the topics I just mentioned. So long as we aren't getting waaaaaaaaay to far into petty minute details.

 

[Malty Milk Whistle]

no...because I like my games to be good

and I have this thing called "taste" which can also be applyed to movies and music

Oh, hey there captain condescension, ever heard of personal opinion? "different strokes for different folks" and all that? so no need to put it like that, really.

 

[lRookiel]

no...because I like my games to be good

and I have this thing called "taste" which can also be applyed to movies and music

My thoughts exactly. However I let glitches slide with Bethesda because they are usually hilarious.

EDIT: Also before the different strokes for different folks strikes, I do believe thats why different companies make different things? :3

Please OP Take this somewhere else, wrong site and wrong community. :3

 

[Rusman]

I'm in a similar boat to you, I went to Uni to study game design and quit after 2 years because I hated the tech side of it. I loved the lectures we had on games culture, how certain aspects influence the industry, history of games, different uses of sound in games, the difference between graphics and aesthetics, all that stuff was brilliant.
Even managed to write a couple of A grade papers on things (Sound Design in Videos Games and Uses of Mythology/Legend and Lore in Video Games.

 

[TitanDrone]

If you stop playing for fun it becomes work and thus meaningless. I enjoy playing a game and genuinely like discovering errors or "bugs" as the simplefolk like to refer to them. It must be absolutely heartbreaking to HAVE to play a game in order to test or review it.

I think what can happen is the testers and reviewers who literally "get paid to play games," end up blinding themselves and often miss the point of a game completely. The best reviewers are often those who feel guilty they are being paid to play because that indicates they are still thinking about how much fun they are having.

Once that feeling stops, they are effectively very expensive monkeys typing subjective opinions.

The gaming industry itself is almost non-existant. There are a few huge companies dominating design, finance and distribution. Many brilliant games get shunted sideways into obscurity and NEVER get reviews because despite the abundance of bloggers, reviewers and writers in general, there is an assumption that no one cares about game Y when game X part II is just so awesomely better than game X part I. I mean just look at all that "new content."

Truth is, gaming has become as empty as Hollywood - a long sufferer of having just a few mega-companies dominate the box office and allowing the industry to become box-office oriented. The trend therefore are more games that are carbon-copies of their namesakes. If the rights for a title cannot be secured by buying a fledgeling competitor, then simply buy a similar brand and start churning out your own mmo/rts/rpg/whatever.

It seems to me like the machine is slowly ensuring the death of gaming by blandness. The hypocracy of double-standards with regards to sex and violence is sucking the soul of of everything. This (to an outsider) is best described as "baffling." I completely agree with and support the Japanese companies that simply do not bother publishing games in the US (and by extension Europe.) Though I regret not having the option, I sympathise, because the rules are simply unworkable.
It is like the US market said: Right'o people. We need to increase the frequency of references to previous works in order to create clear genres that can then develop independent norms for user interaction, content and marketing. Once these genres are created we will market them aggressively by introducing minor updates to existing content and charge for additions which we can easily market and sell to existing fans. We are not interested in having a fight with the FCC or parent groups so we will simply not do any games featuring nudity, sex or references to same. We will instead extend the "cops & robbers"-play-routine into the virtual world and deflect any criticism with varying tunes of "boys will be boys."

It might be that the very people who run these companies are the same seemingly clueless, talentless pieces of utter waste that run Hollywood. The town where nothing gets made unless it has a proven track record. I truly believe that Hollywood is dead and the movies coming out now are just echoes of the death-rattle... sequel upon sequel lined up to prove they too can provide a decent return on investment. Never mind movie magic, just show us the numbers...


I could continue to write tons about this issue but I simply do not want to. I want to play my game, have a cup of carbonised sugar in water and hibernate until the spring - when new companies, new distribution technology and new finance models possibly change the game of gaming.

 

[Vault101]

no...because I like my games to be good

and I have this thing called "taste" which can also be applyed to movies and music

Oh, hey there captain condescension, ever heard of personal opinion? "different strokes for different folks" and all that? so no need to put it like that, really.

perhaps...

but I always get the impression that some tend to be a little "passive agressive" in thier proclamation of:

[i/] "Well I for one just like games for fun! *cough*Imnotapretentiosasshollikeyou*cough* I mean really, all this talk of "art" and "graphics" and "imersion" whatver happned to fun? *cough*Imsohappyandcarefeecomparedtoyouuptighttwat*cough*" [/i] orr..that could just be me...

or when they act like this line of thourght is somhow revolutionary or noteworthy

all I can say in regards to that is "good for you", it doesnt lend itself to interesting discussion really

 

[Vault101]

I'm in a similar boat to you, I went to Uni to study game design and quit after 2 years because I hated the tech side of it. I loved the lectures we had on games culture, how certain aspects influence the industry, history of games, different uses of sound in games, the difference between graphics and aesthetics, all that stuff was brilliant.
Even managed to write a couple of A grade papers on things (Sound Design in Videos Games and Uses of Mythology/Legend and Lore in Video Games.

you didnt like the tech side?

gaming and tech are like batman and bruce wayne...you cant have one without the other

 

[Joccaren]

I play my games for the fun, but I enjoy debating a ton, thus I will talk about games and what I find makes them fun/not fun on sites like this a lot.
Of course, my version of fun isn't CoD style run and gun, its intense tactical thought in the form of things like SC2 or many tactical RPGs.

 

[NiPah]

Yeah, much like the name of this website I view games as a form of escapism. To me a game can follow every trope in the book (I hate that word), can be completely unoriginal, and score mid 30s in metacritic, and yet I go back to it time and time again because I enjoy playing it.

I would never debate the merits of some of my favorite games, I even avoid reviews for certain games that I like because I don't want to be reminded of their faults.

So yeah I totally agree with you.

 

[getoffmycloud]

no...because I like my games to be good

and I have this thing called "taste" which can also be applyed to movies and music

But surely if the game is fun then it is good even if it is full of glitches or has rubbish graphics or whatever other problem you can think of shouldnt make any difference if it is still fun

 

[Rusman]

I'm in a similar boat to you, I went to Uni to study game design and quit after 2 years because I hated the tech side of it. I loved the lectures we had on games culture, how certain aspects influence the industry, history of games, different uses of sound in games, the difference between graphics and aesthetics, all that stuff was brilliant.
Even managed to write a couple of A grade papers on things (Sound Design in Videos Games and Uses of Mythology/Legend and Lore in Video Games.

you didnt like the tech side?

gaming and tech are like batman and bruce wayne...you cant have one without the other

What I mean is I liked those previously stated lectures, and I liked our modules on Concept Design wherein we actually design games from the ground up.
But I hated the large amount of 3D Animation the course made us do. I didn't want to be a 3D artist/animator yet most of the course was put into it. Plus it was the hardest thing we had to do and I sucked at it.

I, of course, like the tech side of the industry. (I just don't know much about it)