I don't 'get' Racism...
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Simple.
'In Group' vs 'Out Group'
Humans form social groups. You view people in your group more favorably than people outside your group and give them preferential treatment. Racism is what happens when the group identity involves skin color.
Experiments have shown this applies even if you're randomly assigned to that group and your group identity is meaningless and will cease to exist at the conclusion of the study.
*cue The More You Know Star*
Also, saying you don't understand racism is like saying you don't understand hate, wrath, greed, or apathy. Humans are irrational beings.
'In Group' vs 'Out Group'
Humans form social groups. You view people in your group more favorably than people outside your group and give them preferential treatment. Racism is what happens when the group identity involves skin color.
Experiments have shown this applies even if you're randomly assigned to that group and your group identity is meaningless and will cease to exist at the conclusion of the study.
*cue The More You Know Star*
Also, saying you don't understand racism is like saying you don't understand hate, wrath, greed, or apathy. Humans are irrational beings.
Nothing could make the KKK blush- that would put colour in their cheeks and they wouldn't want that!Scow2 said:
*Bad-um-tish*
Now stop frikin arguing! Unless you are Racist. Then we will tear you apart!
My troll sense is tingiling!Mad Stalin said:
I know what racism is, i'm not a complete moron.alimarin said:
I was merely asking in my own special way, why people are racist today.
And it's origins.
I'm not racist and i have no idea where you got that impression from.Patrick Hayes said:
And how did you TRIPLE POST!?
and i'm pretty sure specieism is that of different species, you do know that white people and black people are still human, right?
I think that the reason people are racist is because of, stereotypical enough, insecurity. People are drawn to forming groups that they identify with and bash on other groups (countries having stupid wars for no reason, shia vs sunni muslims, white vs black, white vs Asian, white vs Arabic. The list goes on. Blacks, Arabic and Asians aren't any better of course.) The easiest way of doing that is going by differences in looks, language, nationality,sexual preferences religion, or culture. It kinda goes like this: "I know I'm not perfect, but at least I'm better than the *insert demographic here*.
Sorry, but what's a quarian?Patrick Hayes said:
I sort of ignored that bit and why the fuck are you being so aggresive!?
Chill out.
The problem with that is that mostly stereotype-ism is unconscious, you can't condition yourself to stop doing something you don't know you are doing. If I may explain the reason behind stereotypes, stereotypes happen because we are a intelligent species, that meaning that we learn faster and better than other animals, we tend to assign certain traits to people we see daily but don't know on a personal level, and those are usually wrong.Sizzle Montyjing said:
Although, the more aggressive racism, like the one on dark people and Muslims stem more from the media(Fox news and the such).
I read that as fox news is the cause of racism.Gustavo S. Buschle said:
Well that's reason enough for me, let's go and destroy them!
Oh happy days!!!
Ironically, by any logical stretch of the imagination, the 'superiority' thing is precisely what the original 'civilisation' exercise was trying to alleviate. Were the original colonists that pessimistic that they never thought they'd succeed in their arrogant little venture?Davey Woo said:
Joking aside, yes that is kinda what I meant, but it isn't only fox-news' fault, it's all media's fault, but mostly fox-news' soSizzle Montyjing said:I read that as fox news is the cause of racism.Gustavo S. Buschle said:
Well that's reason enough for me, let's go and destroy them!
Oh happy days!!!
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You seem to ignore the fact that there are other variable than ethnicity like for example that most African countries lack good school systems and that pregnant women don't have a good nutrition during pregnancy, which if you are willing to do the research on google you will find that that has a great impact on the possible intellect of the child. The proof I have is that black people who grew up in a environment that is as good as you average engineer they will be as smart as them.Hagenzz said:
My two cents:
Racism is an evolutionary instinct that was essential to our survival. The concept of distrust of people outside your personal niche was perfectly reasonable back in the time when the next tribe over what just as likely to kill your children and enslave your women as they were to say hello. Infanticide and full on genocide was common place in the ancient world and people had to be racist to survive.
Tribes became nations, skirmishes over cattle became wars but the concept remained the same. If you as a people wanted to survive and thrive a general distrust and dislike of those different from you, and an ability to channel that feeling into the ability to fight or enslave people, was essential to a nation or people growth. Remember: Rome was a fascist state.
Racism is also a useful political tool. Various governments wishing to control or distract a population would target the outsider and this usually resulted in another race. Another race outside of the country was ok but one inside the country is even more useful when your economy is failing, your trying to clamp down on civil liberties or you're trying to unite the unwashed masses (Nazi Germany, Mugabe in Zimbabwe, Jewish Pogroms, the Spanish Inquisition, the crusades).
I kinda feel anyone who doesn't understand why people are racist probably hasn't looked at it very hard because historically, culturally and politically it pretty easy to "get".
Racism is an evolutionary instinct that was essential to our survival. The concept of distrust of people outside your personal niche was perfectly reasonable back in the time when the next tribe over what just as likely to kill your children and enslave your women as they were to say hello. Infanticide and full on genocide was common place in the ancient world and people had to be racist to survive.
Tribes became nations, skirmishes over cattle became wars but the concept remained the same. If you as a people wanted to survive and thrive a general distrust and dislike of those different from you, and an ability to channel that feeling into the ability to fight or enslave people, was essential to a nation or people growth. Remember: Rome was a fascist state.
Racism is also a useful political tool. Various governments wishing to control or distract a population would target the outsider and this usually resulted in another race. Another race outside of the country was ok but one inside the country is even more useful when your economy is failing, your trying to clamp down on civil liberties or you're trying to unite the unwashed masses (Nazi Germany, Mugabe in Zimbabwe, Jewish Pogroms, the Spanish Inquisition, the crusades).
I kinda feel anyone who doesn't understand why people are racist probably hasn't looked at it very hard because historically, culturally and politically it pretty easy to "get".
This ^Vicarious Reality said:
There's no measure of evolution, we're as "much evolved" as a slug. Now less evolved cultures...