I don't 'get' Racism...

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Kinokohatake

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dyre said:
Calibretto said:
dyre said:
Meh, doesn't seem so hard to get to me. It's the leftovers of a "white man's burden" type of thought that was prevalent back in the day, when the Europeans looked at native Americans and Africans and were all like "lolwut, where's your technology and civilization. We'd better enslave you guys for your own good!"

In general, a lot of people unconsciously compare themselves to any different group they meet, and obviously when comparing, they want to be the better of the two. So, nationalism, racism, holy wars, etc happen.
And you are saying that white people are the only people who are racist wtf? ROFL
Well, traditionally, they've had the most opportunity to do so. They did sort of colonize the whole world.

My second paragraph addressed racism in general, so no need to throw a fit

Don't feed the trolls! People ignore the fact that africans were doing pretty darn well for themselves before Europeans waded in and mucked it up. And Asians were doing very well with some fantastic tech breakthroughs. And the Native Americans had a very fantastic and spiritual culture. And the Aztecs and Mayans were doing great before the white man wiped them out by being diseased creatures. Thank god for the white man eh?
 

GrizzlerBorno

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Hey we all believe things that don't make any sense whatsoever when viewed from a purely objective POV. Why do you dislike fish? Why are you afraid of heights? Why do you think Cake is better than Pie? Why do you take life advice from a 2000 year old book?

Racism (and sexism) is bad because it's a personal viewpoint that actively harms other, innocent people. Other than that: It's just another irrational belief.
 

Dark Knifer

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My guess is because people like being better then other people. Some will resort to racism to accomplish this. Plus people don't like things that are different.
 

Caligulove

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People are always afraid of whats different, things that arent the same as them. Starts off as simply being cautious and applying different assumptions based on perceptions. Though negative encounters or negative connotations that go along with an experience with a different race can breed different thoughts when it comes to those races. Instead of simple differences in culture or melanin levels, hell even economic/poverty issues, they only see flaws as a result of one trait about them becoming much bigger than it really is, applying one bad encounter or one misconception to everyone that fits the bill.
 

Grimbold

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Back in times of slavery and colonialism it was the white mans arrogance. They had christianity and technology. Africans and American Indians did not. So they were worthless savages.
Today it is the white mans fear. Black people have higher crime rates so the white man is cautious with them. And Indian Indians and the Chinese just won't stop breeding so we fear they could take over here. In Europe Turks and Arabs have high crime rates, questionable societal values and they breed like rabbits. No wonder people fear them.
Of course Turks and black people can be racist too. In societies in which actual discrimination is not prevalent anymore this is mostly based on some kind of an exaggerated nationalism or grudge and envy. They hold the racist society responsible for their lack of success.
 

Olinser

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The main problem I see in this thread is that many people seem to believe that racism is confined to white on black, or 'slavery racism' if you will. Since the dawn of time just about every single sect of humanity has believed that they were the 'superior race' when they encountered a different culture.

Some examples and the various time periods they cropped up:

German 'Aryan Race' - 1920's - 1940's - generally perceived as racism against Jews, but in point of fact the Germans separated the races into various tiers, with Aryans at the top and Jews at the bottom.

Japanese vs the 'yellow dogs' (Chinese) - first contact of races, honestly don't know off the top of my head, somewhere around the 2nd or 3rd century AD - pretty much since the two races first contacted each other, both sides believed they were the superior race. I can't off the top of my head remember the slurs that the Chinese applied to the Japanese, but rest assured that both of them were confident in their race's superiority

Portugese 'barbarians' vs the Japanese 'monkeys' - 16th century Portugal 'discovered' Japan, the Portuguese and Japanese once again were both convinced that they were a superior race. After a very turbulent period, the Japanese actually expelled ALL foreginers from their country for over two hundred years from the 17th to the mid 19th century.

English (later the Americans) vs the Native Americans - Pretty much ever since they landed in America, for the most part the Native Americans were agreed to be a 'lesser' race. This instance of racism actually has a reason behind it - if they were an inferior race, they could not own land (that the settlers wanted). Clearly, they were an inferior race. I don't know too much about Native Americans, but from what I understand this was a two way street as well, the Native Americans looked at the English as barbarians for their disrespect for the land and animals.


I could continue on with these examples, but the point remains that pretty much since two different cultures encountered each other, both sides believed that THEY were the superior race. The idea that racism is bad is actually an extremely modern concept. However, even though racism (discrimination through skin color) is considered 'bad', people will simply find other reasons to think they are superior - intelligence, physical appearance, wealth, jobs, whose wife is hotter, dick size, whose truck has bigger engine, who killed a bigger gator with a 2x4, who has more wives/children, etc. People will continue to believe that they are superior to other people until humanity ends.
 

CrazyGirl17

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I don't get it either, all I know is that some people are just ignorant jackasses.

...Yes, I am very bitter, why do you ask?
 

Woodsey

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Well you see, in the one corner we have twats, and in the other corner we have normal human beings. Guess what group racists belong too. Twats are too stupid for logic.
 

Balmong7

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I think that people are forgetting to mention how some of the stereotypes affect racism too. Stereotypes say that a lot of Blacks and Mexicans live in poor areas, don't receive the best education and join gangs, steal and kill people. This makes a lot of people nervous and scared around Blacks and Mexicans. Thus racism appears.

Excuse my lack of political correctness. But it is much faster to type without it.
 

BabySinclair

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It has nothing to do with skin color directly. Skin color just makes it easier to determine "who doesn't have the same geographical/cultural heritage that I do." That is the basis for racism. Ask any middle eastern Shite, Suni, or Kurd. African tribes are racist to other tribes they don't like and animosity towards people of German descent is racism. Is is inherent for humans to categorize the world around them and some of the categories created are based on the culture they develop. People from different cultures often had different physical characteristics which ingrained the concept of "if they don't look like me, they must be different." Every person is to some degree racist. Period. There are no exceptions. It is not a "white man's burden" situation, African, Asian, Indian, Native American, and Middle Eastern people are all racist to this day. The only difference is what their culture dictates these differences mean and how to act upon them.

Balmong7 said:
I think that people are forgetting to mention how some of the stereotypes affect racism too. Stereotypes say that a lot of Blacks and Mexicans live in poor areas, don't receive the best education and join gangs, steal and kill people. This makes a lot of people nervous and scared around Blacks and Mexicans. Thus racism appears.
This perpetuates and modifies the existing stereotypes and stereotyping is a form of discreet racism.
 

Ashcrexl

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Pretty simple. Human brains are designed to group themselves with some and exclude everyone else. Probably some kind of evolutionary advantage at some point. Race is a pretty obvious and easy to distinguish type of classification, so people will just go with their basest instincts and exclude everyone of a different race, hence racism.
 

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USSR said:
I leave you to Morgan Freeman..

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I love that clip.

As for not getting racism. You really can't get it. There's no logic behind it. Trying to get racism would be like trying to understand fashion, it's all just a bunch of fabricated BS.
 

ZeroMachine

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spartan231490 said:
Sizzle Montyjing said:
Pretty straight-foward, i just don't understand racism.
Why are people Racist?
What is it about the colour of you're skin that makes you 'better' than others?
I just can't put my finger on it, why is there racism in the world?
To me it doesn't make any logical sense.
So, what are your thoughts on this?
Racism isn't logical, you can't "get it." There is a great big world out there filled with ignorant people who believe in stupid shit. This is just another example of that.
I wouldn't say it's not logical... I mean, it's easy to make perfect sense out of it.

It's weird. It's both logical and illogical. You can easily figure out exactly WHY it exists. But why it STILL exists? Not as much.
 

BabySinclair

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Calibretto said:
BabySinclair said:
It has nothing to do with skin color directly. Skin color just makes it easier to determine "who doesn't have the same geographical/cultural heritage that I do." That is the basis for racism. Ask any middle eastern Shite, Suni, or Kurd. African tribes are racist to other tribes they don't like and animosity towards people of German descent is racism. Is is inherent for humans to categorize the world around them and some of the categories created are based on the culture they develop. People from different cultures often had different physical characteristics which ingrained the concept of "if they don't look like me, they must be different." Every person is to some degree racist. Period. There are no exceptions. It is not a "white man's burden" situation, African, Asian, Indian, Native American, and Middle Eastern people are all racist to this day. The only difference is what their culture dictates these differences mean and how to act upon them.
You are a voice of reason BabySinclair I hope once you mature you become President!
Just learned my anthropology in college. Thanks for the future vote.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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I don't think it makes any logical sense either. Hopefully racism will dissapear altogether in a couple of generations. It's just freakin pointless.

Human will always have that 'fear of something new and/or different' but by being cognitive of that we can control it.