I don't like MOBAS. Should I try Heroes of the Storm?

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Ishal

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MOBAS aren't my thing, and I'm not even sure if I should do this.

Thing about MOBAS that puts me off is two fold.

1) They have notoriously lousy communities.
2) Their gameplay heavily focused on teamwork will force me to interact with said community since I don't have friends to play with.

This seems more a of problem than say if I was random queing with some people in TF2.

Normally I wouldn't even make a thread like this. But I've consistently heard that Heroes is a MOBA for people who really don't like MOBA. I've seen it being played and it looks fun. And I've heard it's more casual and less demanding than other MOBAS. Any truth there?

I'm just looking for something fun to play and nothing serious. Am I in the right ballpark?
 

Aerosteam

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It's free to play, right? There really isn't anything stopping you from trying it out.
 

The Madman

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Might as well give it a try it's free after all, and as another person not usually into mobas I've been having fun with Hots. Don't think I'll ever play it very seriously but I have fun with the occasional match now and then.
 

Doom972

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I also don't like MOBAs. I tried DOTA 2 and gave up on it after a few games, and the same goes for HotS. HotS is more accessible and more based on Teamwork, but I didn't enjoy it that much more. The players are just as awful as in DOTA 2.
 

zumbledum

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its free so why not just give it a go?

the business model sucks , heroes are real expensive but you can get them through gold (slowly just keep doing the dailies) i personally only ever play it solo and i quite like it, some real interesting and fun heroes, none of the "ADC or feed!" or being forced into being the support *****. no half hour farming session , its pvp straight out the gate.

just remember to watch your team go with them if they are doing objectives or fighting. only lane if nothing else is going on!
 

Drakmorg

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It's the MOBA for people who don't like MOBAs because they're too complicated and have too steep a learning curve. The appeal it's that everything is vastly more simplified over most other MOBAs out there. So unless the thing turning you off of MOBAs is having to learn about things like items and builds, laning, etc., I'd say give it a pass.
 

Typhoonis88

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One of the major problems for going for HOTS if you are not keen on moba's is the objectives in game are designed more around team play then any other moba out there and require full team co op to succeeded most of the time.

The pros for a newby Moba player are vast but it is the most team focused game of the lot and will be very frustrating with out a proper team.

What is good is that you never fall behind as an individual of the team as everyone gets global experience and respectively speaking dieing is less of an issue if objectives are being taken.

The Knowledge base required to play is far less then any other one out there so its pretty quick to pick up.

But the fact that its true that one member can not be as much as a "carry" then in other Moba's even if you have a strong player on the team it wont win you the game, you need leadership.

I've played LoL for 2 years and Dota 1 and 2 for 7 years if you are not keen on a heavy reliance on other members of your team i would not recommend HOTS.

Pros
Quick to pick up
you wont fall behind your team in levels

Cons
Heavy team play focus
a strong member on your team can not win you the game by themselves
slow character unlocking/expensive to purchase
 

CoffeeOfDoom

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I'd definitely try it!
I hate MOBAs with a passion, the only reason I tried HOTS was because I am a fan of Blizzard, so I thought 'Why not? At least it's free'.
It's not as difficult to pick up as other MOBAs and I've found that the community isn't as shitty as others (in my experience) as most of the directing other players is done through button commands (retreat, I need help etc).
Just make sure you actually go to the map objectives, otherwise players are more likely to rage at you.
So yeah, go for it! Even if you don't like it you haven't wasted any money :)
 
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The_Kodu said:
From someone who does play Moba games (level 100 on DOTA 2 and Level 30 Smite which is the max level) this is my take from what I've seen early on in HOTS

The community is beyond lousy, I had 5 games running where a guy just ran into the enemy and fed all game.

Teamwork wise I've never seen such people so unable to work as a team, I was a healer and my team are often so bad I'm the only one at objectives.

Heroes is only a Moba for people who hate Moba games if you have people to play with. Otherwise you might as well play Super Monday Night Combat or regular Monday Night Combat. They're more fun and far less Moba than HOTs
Oh my God, are people still playing Monday Night Combat, and to a lesser extent Super Monday Night Combat?! Those games were amazing and deserved more than Uber abandoning it. If there's a steam club I'd have to join to play, I'd do it right now...
 

Sigmund Av Volsung

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As people said, try it out, but HoTS is even more teamwork dependant than LoL or DoTA 2. Sure, levelling, farming, ganking etc. is all easier because it's simpler, but in order to win the game, you need to enter teamfights and win them. There's no lone wolfing there.

And the community...I can't tell, but let's just say that HoTS is still pretty much a MOBA, just maybe like a MOBA Lite.
 

BeerTent

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I'm not big on OBA's either.

HotS is alright. It's free, but honestly, I play with friends, most of which I know RL. If you don't have any friends to play with, then about 90% of the games I enjoy, probably aren't going to be your cup of tea. That said, HotS's maps are actually really interesting. they seem to be heavily objective based (Which I generally like, a lot) instead of "Bash the bad guys until something happens." I like games that induce a lot of thinking and teamwork, so give that, and maybe Dirty Bomb a shot if you're like me. They're both free. Honestly, all you lose is an hour or so of your time when you try it.

Seriously, Talk to people. MAKE friends. Fuck, I'll play games with you. Hit me up on Steam. Games are amazingly social, so be human!
 

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smithy_2045 said:
It's a MOBA. If you don't like MOBAs, what makes you think this MOBA will be any different?
Well, maybe this one will be different!(Haha. No it isn't.)

Or maybe next one?

The one after that?

On the side note, HotS is more team-oriented game compared to LoL or DoTA; meaning that you absolutely cannot carry alone.(at least, maximum impact one excellent individual is very limited compared to 2 other said games)
I wonder how that is going to affect the attitude of the players?
 

elvor0

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Ishal said:
1) They have notoriously lousy communities.
2) Their gameplay heavily focused on teamwork will force me to interact with said community since I don't have friends to play with.
1) Heroes community isn't really that bad, I can count the number of times I've seen abuse on one hand. I have however, encountered a lot more bad players in Heroes. If you get to level 20, you get a pet for WoW, which promoted people just running headlong into the enemy team or not even trying to play so they could get to 20(20 takes about 60 games, so rather bad design on Blizzards part). So I assumed after 20 the skill of my teammates would increase but it's gotten even worse as I approach the level cap.

2) If you don't like playing with other people, then I'm not sure how this MOBA is going to be any different. It's still a MOBA, a streamlined, quicker to play MOBA, but a MOBA none the less.
 

Valiance

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HotS certainly has a (somehow) even lower skill ceiling than LoL (I didn't think it was possible), and a very low emphasis on individual ability.

If you lose, it probably won't be any fault of your own. If you win, you probably won't get that "I saved the day" feeling that you might in a different game where you do all the work yourself.

captcha: "problem solver" haha
 

Redryhno

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The community has in alot of ways been worse in my experience. So many games where someone throwing a fit ruins the entire game because of the team xp factor. Or refusing to help at camps because they think it's a waste of time or even pushing having little impact if you don't push as like 3 or more. Falling even a level behind can ruin a game.

There's not a way for any person to help their team if there's a SINGLE person on the team that doesn't want to help/be helped. Split-pushing is a joke most of the time, because there's only a few that can 1vX, and the sole reason they could was their cc immunity while jumping that they took out in one of the recent patches. And then there's more than a few maps that if you fall behind on early, you lose, no question, full stop, but since there's no surrender button and they're gigantic maps, you may as well just sit in base and wait because it'll be alot simpler. Not to mention until you hit 35 or so, you have no idea what map you're playing on, and there's far too many characters that just plain can't work on some because of either the mechanics or the layout of the map screwing them over hard.

Note that this is largely just solo and duo-queuing, a full team of buddies is alot less annoying if for no other reason than you'll all be too busy making fun of the game to care.

Another thing would be them falling into the MOBA pit of greed, in that the new release is miles better than older ones and have much the same tools as suspiciously recently nerfed older characters. Why take Stitches for CC and picks when Johanna exists and is miles tankier while having more reliable damage without having to pick full tank talents? Why pick up Jaina when Kael'Thas has better zone control, damage, AND range? Why take Kerrigan when the Butcher has unstoppable(something they took out days before his release on other characters that allows him to ignore cc on a point and click ability that you CANNOT run away from), better damage, can survive easier due to on-hit healing dots, and has better aoe?

Also since I'm talking about characters, they like invisibility slightly too much. You can somewhat see it, but you have to have your graphics on specific settings and hope you're not on a map where the rough outline they give you as a hint is the same color as the floor or walls(which is far too many of them as far as I'm concerned).


Yet another glaring issue would be that their connection system is a fucking joke. You lose connection for any amount of time at all(and you will every few games,or someone on your team will, it's unavoidable, it's a piece of shit system that was made for 1v1's and 2v2's) and the game has to play itself back for you(also download itself) up to the point you reconnected because of the replay system.

It's an atrocious system where being gone for forty seconds means you'll be gone for a minimum of four minutes, and in a game where the average time is something like 28 minutes, that's a stupid amount of time to be out of it. Oh did, I mention that your model stutters because a bot takes over when you d/c and then continuously receives orders from you being back and shifting back to bot mode because the game is replaying itself for you? Meaning that you'll come back with at least one death and therefore that much more xp for the enemy team?

It's an embarrassment and Blizz said a year and a half ago it was just a placeholder system until they fixed up a new one and that it would be fixed by the time it launched...

Overall, it's a game that requires you either have no interest in competing on your own, or with a full team. If you get a full team together that will work to win, it's a decent game, problem stems from it being FAR too reliant on that scenario happening for the majority of games.

So yes, I'd say try it, but if you don't care for MOBAs, chances are you aren't going to care for this one either. Because no matter what they say, HOTS is a MOBA, but one with frustrating solo mechanics. Go in with friends and try to have a ball, but I can't recommend it to anyone personally.