i like your optimism, i plan to move to japan some day, i'm yet to find anything wrong with that country, i don't really get the charm of russia though, i went there once on holiday in summer, but that place gets cold in winter!!Trezu said:
I Dont Understand: Humans
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Sounds like teenaged agist for the most part. Bullies happen because they need a way to have power and attention. They try to force respect, and those around it are to afraid to fight the established order.
Also most people are willing to be helpful when asked, it gives them a sense of doing right. When you get to know people they are much deeper then you give them credit for. Sheep carcasses are no fun, but ultimately its not what most people do. Most strive to do good the best they can, and those who are happy aren't lying to themselves, Its just a matter that we tend to build up the negative things rather than the positive. It just effects us more.
Also most people are willing to be helpful when asked, it gives them a sense of doing right. When you get to know people they are much deeper then you give them credit for. Sheep carcasses are no fun, but ultimately its not what most people do. Most strive to do good the best they can, and those who are happy aren't lying to themselves, Its just a matter that we tend to build up the negative things rather than the positive. It just effects us more.
short answer humans are idiots I am an Idiot everyones an idiot but the strange thing is people are idiots at different things Like how I'm a idiot at personal hygenie and an idiot of dealing with non folk music this can be boiled down to two things we are strange beingsTrezu said:
Edit:I live in australia too I am in a catholic school and my current thought of peoples habits are well bad I hate all the dam kids except for the libarary crowd there all nice (yes I have a group of geeks and nerds as my friends cause I am a nerd) I also find religion hard to belive in
1. Go to 4-chan /b/
2. Indulge in the greatness that is the pure unadulterated human
3. Be mentally changed forever
4. ??????
5. Profit!
But seriously though its culture and upbringing that causes it, Anonymity Encourages it, and the internet that facilitates it.
2. Indulge in the greatness that is the pure unadulterated human
3. Be mentally changed forever
4. ??????
5. Profit!
But seriously though its culture and upbringing that causes it, Anonymity Encourages it, and the internet that facilitates it.
This is how most of the human population is unfortunately. The good news is that later in life, you will be able to pick and chose who you associate with. Once you enter the job market, if you have a professional attitude, and a decent education, you will get jobs over these people, while they and their unplanned offspring starve. Im not trying to make you feel better. This is fact. School may seem like your whole life right now, but once you are removed from it by 10 or so years, you will realize how fast the time goes by, how hard life is for stupid people, and what is really important.
Whether your early experiences where good or bad, it only matters where you are headed in the future. If brutal torment causes you to temporarily abandon your social life and focus on school, they are doing you a favor. If you understand what you are learning but get bad grades from corrupt teachers, it doesnt matter. It only matters what you learn. It has been said that giving false praise is the most malicious thing you can do to a person. All of the students around you who are praised for bad behavior are being cursed. They are honing skills that will do them no good later on in life. Once they leave school, they are going to lack the necessary skills, and the opportunity to gain those skills will have passed them by.
Whether your early experiences where good or bad, it only matters where you are headed in the future. If brutal torment causes you to temporarily abandon your social life and focus on school, they are doing you a favor. If you understand what you are learning but get bad grades from corrupt teachers, it doesnt matter. It only matters what you learn. It has been said that giving false praise is the most malicious thing you can do to a person. All of the students around you who are praised for bad behavior are being cursed. They are honing skills that will do them no good later on in life. Once they leave school, they are going to lack the necessary skills, and the opportunity to gain those skills will have passed them by.
Good point. I just actually made a hypothesis that the good vastly outweighs the bad. This makes it normal, and who wants to hear about normal? They experience that all the time every day. They want different, something they haven't already experienced countless times before, and evil is different. I admit I don't necessarily believe this myself. I assume most people are assholes until they prove otherwise, but the logic seems solid. Also, happiness is a state of mind. If you can delude yourself into thinking your happy than you're not deluded because you really are happy. I'd question your mental stability in this case, though.twistedmic said:
You had a sheep carcass put inside your locker?
jesus
where are you from man? Is this some normal form of hazing where you are? Because here that would be pretty extreme.
I will never understand humans either, for what it's worth. I often feel the same way about the world. I think a lot of people do...
It's funny that we all feel so isolated in these thoughts, yet many of us are thinking the same thing, probably at the same time.
edit: just saw you are from Australia. I'm guessing not in a major city though? Why do you capitalize random words throughout your sentences and have such poor spelling/grammar? Are you from another country originally and moved to Australia later? Is that why you are harassed?
jesus
where are you from man? Is this some normal form of hazing where you are? Because here that would be pretty extreme.
I will never understand humans either, for what it's worth. I often feel the same way about the world. I think a lot of people do...
It's funny that we all feel so isolated in these thoughts, yet many of us are thinking the same thing, probably at the same time.
edit: just saw you are from Australia. I'm guessing not in a major city though? Why do you capitalize random words throughout your sentences and have such poor spelling/grammar? Are you from another country originally and moved to Australia later? Is that why you are harassed?
The main reason people are cruel is because they are afraid of you. You're a better, stronger person then they are and they know that you're mere existence throws into harsh daylight how weak and pathetic they are so naturally they want to bring you down to where they are. Be that as it may there are more good people in the world then you're aware of, and they're worth seeking out.
maybe its just because i'm terribly lazy but, as far as pranks go, I wouldn't want to be the one to have to haul a dead sheep into a locker. I mean, dead weight is always heavier than live weight and depending on the degradation of the corpse, handling it would be more punishment than the reward of the prank reaching fruition.bdcjacko said:
While I feel for anyone suffering bullying...the over-dramatic and unnecessarily quasi-poetic nature undercuts the sincerity and removes a lot of my personal feeling in the matter.
What could have been an appeal for help comes off as over-done and makes me question the truth of it.
What could have been an appeal for help comes off as over-done and makes me question the truth of it.
What's not to get? We're born, we fuck and we die. I think you've got a case of "nobody's willing to give you a break" on your hands. Don't worry, it happens to me too.
Sturgeon's Law.
Life sucks, deal with it. Humans are evil. I'm not religious, but even if there is a guy up there who is benevolent and all, the results of his making surely aren't. We're humans. We err. We sin. It's just human nature. Nothing you can do about it other than to take the high road.
Life sucks, deal with it. Humans are evil. I'm not religious, but even if there is a guy up there who is benevolent and all, the results of his making surely aren't. We're humans. We err. We sin. It's just human nature. Nothing you can do about it other than to take the high road.
First of all, I go by the general theory that people are jerks, which makes it all the more pleasant when you meet genuinely good people.
Other than my "people are jerks" theory, understand that people in a group feel safe there, and even though some of them might not morally agree with the group's actions they'll join in as well for fear of exclusion. After all, when your in a group that bullies people, you're constantly reminded about what your life might be like outside of it. Also people don't want to be targets as well which means less possible help from others.
trying to understand a reason for something as subjective as opinion and preferences is usually very difficult to grasp especially when your forced to be part of it. It's like watching something on tv and laughing at someone getting hurt or playing a game where your main objective is to "kill" your enemy. Naturally, it's not good practice to compare real life to video games however, have you wondered many people seem to find it at least entertaining?Trezu said:
Other than my "people are jerks" theory, understand that people in a group feel safe there, and even though some of them might not morally agree with the group's actions they'll join in as well for fear of exclusion. After all, when your in a group that bullies people, you're constantly reminded about what your life might be like outside of it. Also people don't want to be targets as well which means less possible help from others.
I dont think you can expect god ( believe in him or not ) to just deal with any person who has wronged you or wronged many, everyones punishment / blessing is saved for them after death,this life is just to seperate who goes where later,even though things seem very grey(as in either/neither good or bad ), like what others have said if u act as weak as you feel it will only increase your weakness.
I feel this is not the right place to ask for help or advice. All we are hearing from you are the terrible things in your life, and though they might be as bad as you say, I am almost certain there are things that either make you laugh or smile that you are forgetting about. And people are really diverse, so it is pointless for you to try and understand humanity as a whole. The scale of doing so is probably completely out of the scale of human comprehension.Trezu said:
School can be terrible for people, and I think what has been said is really key. Put on a brave face. We don't mean lie to yourself or others about how you feel, but find some reason to believe it for real. If you still can't find it, talk to someone you trust and let them know.
We can give you advice, but it is up to you to realize that in your own life. But we can't do it for you
Yeah people suck but you learn to deal with it. Find some good people and something that makes you feel fulfilled.
Just try to remember, people like them end up with teen pregnancy, low income and housing estates.
People like you (you seem intelligent) end up successful to spite the shit you had to put up with in school.
Dont forget to look way down on them while your on top
People like you (you seem intelligent) end up successful to spite the shit you had to put up with in school.
Dont forget to look way down on them while your on top