I don't understand Spock/Vulcans as depicted
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I might just have missed it, but I don't remember that ever being explained, retconned, origin-storied or prequeled during the run of the original series... a bit fuzzy on the movies, most of them I can't properly keep apart in my memory banks.
One thing I know is this: I did not like the Star Wars reboot too much, I thought it had too much action, too much blah and quite a nonsensical story. But I did not outright hate it, either. I thought this could go somewhere.
Enter Into Darkness.
The franchise has just left the building, stark naked and screaming.
I still like the original series. I do remember some choice bits I found inspiring and tolerable about TNG. DS9 is mostly just single scenes and images, the whole thing annoyed the pants off of me. The origins TV series... I was looking forward to that, forgot all about it after... months? weeks?
Into Darkness made me not bother about the franchise any longer. I give up. I'm pretty pissed off. Why can't people come up with their own franchises to ruin?
Also, complete waste of the Cumberbatch. Bastards.
One thing I know is this: I did not like the Star Wars reboot too much, I thought it had too much action, too much blah and quite a nonsensical story. But I did not outright hate it, either. I thought this could go somewhere.
Enter Into Darkness.
The franchise has just left the building, stark naked and screaming.
I still like the original series. I do remember some choice bits I found inspiring and tolerable about TNG. DS9 is mostly just single scenes and images, the whole thing annoyed the pants off of me. The origins TV series... I was looking forward to that, forgot all about it after... months? weeks?
Into Darkness made me not bother about the franchise any longer. I give up. I'm pretty pissed off. Why can't people come up with their own franchises to ruin?
Also, complete waste of the Cumberbatch. Bastards.
Like another said, the telepathy thing is the issue here. It's not just that they're emotional, it's that they're able to project those emotions onto others, against their will.
Look at the mind meld Spock does in The Undiscovered Country, it's an awful thing. Now imagine an entire planet of people doing that and worse to one another. Mind melds were forbidden for a long, long time (I think this is mentioned sometime during Enterprise) for that reason.
There's a TNG episode where Picard has to stop a plot to reassemble some Vulcan emotion weapon as well.
Look at the mind meld Spock does in The Undiscovered Country, it's an awful thing. Now imagine an entire planet of people doing that and worse to one another. Mind melds were forbidden for a long, long time (I think this is mentioned sometime during Enterprise) for that reason.
There's a TNG episode where Picard has to stop a plot to reassemble some Vulcan emotion weapon as well.
When you take steps in environment and breeding to remove emotional outbursts from your kind for generations, it changes the nature of your race. It's still deep down in there, but they don't want to have anything to do with it. Now, here comes Spock who's half human, therefore part of his nature is to have more access to his emotions than any Vulcan has for years and this, ironically, frustrates him, compounding the problem. It's not that the math is wrong, but that the history renders things a bit complicated. It still explains for why their basest instincts still take command every now and then for mating purposes.Happyninja42 said:
Yeah, it's Star Trek. A LOT of things about Star Trek don't make any sense. Like how a remarkably huge number of alien species look almost exactly like humans, or how Data is almost constantly showing signs of emotion during his endless quest for the ability to emote. Or how people actually think there's a valid debate to be had over whether or not Patrick Stewart is better then William Shatner.(Note that I did not actually say which one is obviously better. Although it is painfully obvious. I mean, just look at the two of them. Jesus Christ.)