I don't understand the appeal of Destiny 2

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DeliveryGodNoah said:
Gergar12 said:
Edit: Forsaken ruins two of the best characters: Cayde 6 by killing him, and Uldren Sov who was a decent mysterious anti-hero by again killing him.

Now, who will fill the void, Zavala???
That's quite a bit of Spoiler territory :I
I must congratulate anyone who didn't know about this since this was clearly the selling point of the expansion, unless you avoided all trailers about the expansion (including the one shown at e E3) and avoided pretty much any talk about it, you'd know about
Cayde dying
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BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
DeliveryGodNoah said:
Gergar12 said:
Edit: Forsaken ruins two of the best characters: Cayde 6 by killing him, and Uldren Sov who was a decent mysterious anti-hero by again killing him.

Now, who will fill the void, Zavala???
That's quite a bit of Spoiler territory :I
I must congratulate anyone who didn't know about this since this was clearly the selling point of the expansion, unless you avoided all trailers about the expansion (including the one shown at e E3) and avoided pretty much any talk about it, you'd know about
Cayde dying
.
I honestly didn't. I apologize. Seems like a dumb thing to base an expansion on.

Yep, looking it up it's right there on the front damn page. I'm quite the fool right now.

I really didn't pay any mind at all to ads for the thing, and it must have fallen into the blank void of my mind where my better judgment must have fallen.

Not sure if you had to be such a passive-aggressive dick about correcting me though, but I understand.
 

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There is an approximately zero chance that Cayde-7 isn't on the horizon. Impossible death-defying is a Guardian's whole schtik.

The Traveler will get around to him as soon as sales slack off, as long as they don't absolutely crater.
 

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BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
DeliveryGodNoah said:
Gergar12 said:
Edit: Forsaken ruins two of the best characters: Cayde 6 by killing him, and Uldren Sov who was a decent mysterious anti-hero by again killing him.

Now, who will fill the void, Zavala???
That's quite a bit of Spoiler territory :I
I must congratulate anyone who didn't know about this since this was clearly the selling point of the expansion, unless you avoided all trailers about the expansion (including the one shown at e E3) and avoided pretty much any talk about it, you'd know about
Cayde dying
.
I follow the game and still expected...

For it to be a bait and switch, and the player to solve the problem with a last minute rescue or a time travel solution or something. After all, the trailers dont show Cayde die, they show a hopeless situation and an off screen gunshot. That's not committing to it 101
 

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BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
Phoenixmgs said:
I haven't played Andromeda but if it plays like past ME games like I'm pretty sure it does, then it definitely does powers in a better way than Destiny; more of them and you can use them far more often. Destiny is far too much of a straight shooter than it should be.
Mass Effect is pretty much just your run of the mill third person cover shooter, the combat is easily the weakest link in the original trilogy, that people think the gameplay (even if it's improved) in Andromeda is the best thing about it should tell you something about the quality of that game.
But ME allows you to do far more than just shoot like say Uncharted. You have lots of different powers and builds. You can make characters that don't even need to fire a gun. The ME3 multiplayer is actually really good because it has tons of characters that play completely differently like the salarian infiltrator is the best sniper while you can be a geth infiltrator and literally never shoot a gun while melting phantoms with its melee attack (with the right build). From what I played of Destiny 1, it was 90+% just standard, but good, 1st-person shooting occasionally using a power. From what I hear of Destiny 2, you can't even main shotguns or sniper rifles, which again, ME allows for. Destiny just seems so limiting compared to even something like a ME or Bioshock along with other games like Overwatch, Battleborn, Borderlands, Warframe.
 

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DeliveryGodNoah said:
BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
DeliveryGodNoah said:
Gergar12 said:
Edit: Forsaken ruins two of the best characters: Cayde 6 by killing him, and Uldren Sov who was a decent mysterious anti-hero by again killing him.

Now, who will fill the void, Zavala???
That's quite a bit of Spoiler territory :I
I must congratulate anyone who didn't know about this since this was clearly the selling point of the expansion, unless you avoided all trailers about the expansion (including the one shown at e E3) and avoided pretty much any talk about it, you'd know about
Cayde dying
.
I honestly didn't. I apologize. Seems like a dumb thing to base an expansion on.

Yep, looking it up it's right there on the front damn page. I'm quite the fool right now.

I really didn't pay any mind at all to ads for the thing, and it must have fallen into the blank void of my mind where my better judgment must have fallen.

Not sure if you had to be such a passive-aggressive dick about correcting me though, but I understand.
Its the first half of the expansion storyline more or less. The second half (although I haven't finished it yet, and the culminating Raid isn't even active yet (and base D2 did have storyline in the Leviathan Raid, unlike D1 where it was just kind of a bonus addon) gets into different and rather weird territory.

The bit with Cayde and Uldren Sov more irked me because its all kind of obviously written with no prior planning, and even a few things that're more then a little retconny. Like okay, Nathan Fillion had some scheduling issues, and maybe they wanted to move away from having him dominate the picture a bit. But trying to actually cram this sudden legend of Cayde-6's adventures into the timeline is just a mess. Like we're told he put all the Barons in the Prison of Elders, but when the hell. The Baron's lore cards put them being imprisoned back during the Reef Wars, when the Awoken were all no-go with Guardians.

Uldren similarly
went from just being missing and marooned on Mars somewhere after the Dreadnought shot him down (per the post Taken King reef sidequests), to suddenly being half-Taken, and having been caught by Petra Vanj (and possibly Cayde) and thrown in the Prison of Elders. In between the two games I guess.

Cayde and Uldren, and Cayde and Petra for that matter seem to have had long running relationships that don't seem to make sense. The Ace of Spades exotic quest says that Cayde was running around for a long time pre-Vanguard, but the Awoken we meet in D1 seem pretty adverse to dealing with guardians at all, not like the Queen's main agent was consistently working with one all the time.
 

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DeliveryGodNoah said:
BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
DeliveryGodNoah said:
Gergar12 said:
Edit: Forsaken ruins two of the best characters: Cayde 6 by killing him, and Uldren Sov who was a decent mysterious anti-hero by again killing him.

Now, who will fill the void, Zavala???
That's quite a bit of Spoiler territory :I
I must congratulate anyone who didn't know about this since this was clearly the selling point of the expansion, unless you avoided all trailers about the expansion (including the one shown at e E3) and avoided pretty much any talk about it, you'd know about
Cayde dying
.
I honestly didn't. I apologize. Seems like a dumb thing to base an expansion on.

Yep, looking it up it's right there on the front damn page. I'm quite the fool right now.

I really didn't pay any mind at all to ads for the thing, and it must have fallen into the blank void of my mind where my better judgment must have fallen.

Not sure if you had to be such a passive-aggressive dick about correcting me though, but I understand.
They probably had to do something drastic to pull people back in to the game again, though that obviously creates another problem.

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as passive-aggressive, I'm just honestly surprised that anyone who had an even slight interest in the expansion didn't know about it.

Elijin said:
BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
DeliveryGodNoah said:
Gergar12 said:
Edit: Forsaken ruins two of the best characters: Cayde 6 by killing him, and Uldren Sov who was a decent mysterious anti-hero by again killing him.

Now, who will fill the void, Zavala???
That's quite a bit of Spoiler territory :I
I must congratulate anyone who didn't know about this since this was clearly the selling point of the expansion, unless you avoided all trailers about the expansion (including the one shown at e E3) and avoided pretty much any talk about it, you'd know about
Cayde dying
.
I follow the game and still expected...

For it to be a bait and switch, and the player to solve the problem with a last minute rescue or a time travel solution or something. After all, the trailers dont show Cayde die, they show a hopeless situation and an off screen gunshot. That's not committing to it 101
To be fair, in the E3 trailer you hear (You pretty much see it) the gunshot and then you see Cayde's lifeless body on the floor a couple of seconds later. Who knows though, a solution might still come.
 

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I had friends who were fans of Destiny 1, who decided to jump onto Destiny 2 and I ended up getting roped in. Since Destiny 2 did have a PC release whereas Destiny 1 was console exclusive. And we used to be massive Halo fans.

If you wanna loot and shoot, just play Borderlands. If you ever get tired of random loot and the skinner box, you can at least just use a save editor - give yourself the loot and get the game over with. Borderlands 2 still felt rather varied and fun up til the end of TVHM, where you could still switch up your loadouts and still perform. UVHM was just stupid and made majority of the gear pointless.

There's just nothing really appealing about the whole loot system in Destiny. You're striving to increase your 'power'. But it doesn't feel different beyond a number increasing. Guns are still very similar to one another. Exotics are one of the few things that actually feel different, but you are limited to only equipping one. You just switch numbers for some higher numbers so you qualify for more repetitive content?

The gameplay loop is also really repetitive. Just bullet sponges and more bullet sponges. My memories of Halo are still stuck back in Halo 3/Reach - but that had some distinguishable enemies and threats. Destiny 2 just feels like a lot of similar noise.

PvP is just sad. I've got so many better choices out there.

I've only tried one raid - Leviathan. And it wasn't a fun sort of difficult. It was an annoying thread the needle sort of BS with little/no room for error. Maybe there's people who find appeal in the 'teamwork' they need where everybody functions as a cog in a perfectly well oiled machine. I just found it inorganic and annoying. Me and my friends didn't exactly have the time or patience to practice the whole routine. I dropped Destiny 2 shortly after experiencing the Leviathan raid, no idea if my friends continued. But considering all the Overwatch we played afterwards... they probably didn't go back.

A good story might have carried the game for me. But I didn't feel anything for the setting and story. It is highly detailed and yet feels so superfluous. And the story is kinda treated like the 'tutorial' to the 'main game' that is the entire grind loop which is definitely a massive killer.

Just feels like there's a good game somewhere in Destiny 2, but it's been hacked into pieces and spread far too thin.