I feel like I'm the only one who likes AAA games [rant]
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I love the Halo games too. (The first three ones anyway). So you're never alone buddy.erttheking said:
*fist bump*
Well certain games from the more perverted parts of the Japanese market...I'd rather not go into too much detail.Vault101 said:
One thing that I always think about with triple A is the God of War Franchise. For me its got the full package. Great gameplay, excellent graphics and multiple difficulty levels and epic boss battles. You get the full game with no dlc and has plenty of unlockables and fun developer interviews. Why don't people ever talk about it here? it's like the series does not even exist. Is it too mainstream or something despite doing everything it can to please fans with no microtransactions and such?
AAA games are not universally generic action-y bland shit. A lot of the time they are, and I don't hate those games in terms of gameplay, just hate that they are somehow seen as the pinnacle of audience accessibility. But the bulk of what I hate about AAA games has nothing to do with the games. It's the marketing, the blatant attempts to guilt trip the consumer into buying more stuff, the squandered potential when series become AAA and decide to emulate the bland majority, and the effect they have in shouldering out smaller games, leading to basically no middle market. And fuck do I hate the companies behind them. I don't need to hate the individual games, just be indifferent. I don't care if a game is shit by itself, or if a series I'm not invested in is shit. I'm annoyed when a series I am invested in becomes shit (Assassin's Creed is going there on a shinkansen and I worry about the Souls series), and may hate what has happened to it, but I don't really hate games as their content.
I don't like completely generalizing the state of Triple A gaming, but I can't help but feel a tinge of resentment when I see original and heartfelt ideas go under the radar instead of the new shooters that we've seen a dozen times over.
It's the idea that there are titles that publishers will never take a chance on because they try to break the norm and won't guarantee mainstream success.
It's the idea that there are titles that publishers will never take a chance on because they try to break the norm and won't guarantee mainstream success.
took the words right from my mouth my friend. Look theres no right or wrong in games(save those that cross the line like propaganda games) you ether enjoy them or not, dont stop playing them because EA,Activision,or ubisoft made them. stop playing them because you dont like how that game plays.ShinyCharizard said:
well theres my 2 cents.
I guess I could do that. I've never been on Steam, cuz I'm afraid if I sign up for that then all my money for food and electricity and toilet paper will go towards games. Also my computer is a steaming hunk of crap when it comes to running games, though I may just need to go in and clean it out of all the useless programs I have mucking it up.felbot said:
if that's the case there's several other ports of the game.TheVampwizimp said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastion_%28video_game%29
hell there's even a port for google chrome, you can just use a specific browser and bam the game is in your hands, ok not really in your hands but up in the cloud but you will be able to play it.
speaking of cloud the game is on onlive so if your computer is shit you can just play it on their servers, unless your internet is shit as well in which case this is a horrible idea.
there's even an ios port so if you have a ipad that's another place you can get it.
Wow, I guess I really need to dig deeper sometimes. Thanks for the tips. If I can get it on chrome, I just might be playing Bastion by the end of the day.felbot said:
I won't say that your choice is "wrong", per se.
You know what you like, and nobody else can really argue otherwise without being you.
Last I checked, that was pretty much impossible unless you aren't really yourself in the first place.
But I digress.
The reason why people dislike "AAA" is due to the mass attention brought to them.
The same reason why people will wish for your untimely demise if you like listening to Justin Bieber.
Is Justin Bieber a good musician? You could argue, I guess. Does he have mass appeal? Supposedly. Is he pushing the music industry in a good direction? No, he really isn't pushing it at all. Is there a more talented, innovative musician out there on the streets struggling to survive? Yes, whether or not he'll make the cut is for time to tell.
Some people like to look out for the small guys. Against a wave of people saying "yay, big name brands", you need to be fairly vocal. There is a sort of injustice present, so that may be why there's a lot of negativity when the topic arises. In the business world (which covers pretty much everything), it's usually what has the most broad and massive public support that survives while everything else is damned to fading away.
But as with any other issue, there is no right or wrong. Just a multitude of different whys.
Keep playing what brings you fun (it's what games are for), but have a degree of understanding with those that disagree with you and your tastes.
captcha: good day
Good to have.
You know what you like, and nobody else can really argue otherwise without being you.
Last I checked, that was pretty much impossible unless you aren't really yourself in the first place.
But I digress.
The reason why people dislike "AAA" is due to the mass attention brought to them.
The same reason why people will wish for your untimely demise if you like listening to Justin Bieber.
Is Justin Bieber a good musician? You could argue, I guess. Does he have mass appeal? Supposedly. Is he pushing the music industry in a good direction? No, he really isn't pushing it at all. Is there a more talented, innovative musician out there on the streets struggling to survive? Yes, whether or not he'll make the cut is for time to tell.
Some people like to look out for the small guys. Against a wave of people saying "yay, big name brands", you need to be fairly vocal. There is a sort of injustice present, so that may be why there's a lot of negativity when the topic arises. In the business world (which covers pretty much everything), it's usually what has the most broad and massive public support that survives while everything else is damned to fading away.
But as with any other issue, there is no right or wrong. Just a multitude of different whys.
Keep playing what brings you fun (it's what games are for), but have a degree of understanding with those that disagree with you and your tastes.
captcha: good day
Good to have.
From my PoV, I definitely think all the micro-transaction stuff is negatively affecting my enjoyment of some titles. Especialy MMOs that have had to go F2P in order to survive in today's gaming market.
Here's my personal example: Star Trek Online. I have a Lifetime Sub to that game, and I'm thankful that I got as much enjoyment out of it as I did. However, as of late, with the game going F2P and Perfect World (an Eastern publisher notorious for micro-trans MMOs) now owning the game, the direction of it has not gone they way I would have liked.
Between grinding for Dilithium, grinding for faction Marks, and grinding out projects for Starbases and Embassies, the game has become, well, a massive grind at the high end. Of course, you can mitigate this by buying Zen with real money and converting it to Dilithium on the fluctuating player exchange, but it won't help you with getting Marks or commodities for projects. And beyond that, all the premium ships cost Zen.
Some will argue that you can convert Dilithium earned in-game into Zen, but either way, your looking at spending a lot of time grinding Dilithium, or a lot of money just buying Zen outright. And that goes for F2P players and players paying the optional sub, which only provides a 400 Zen stipend per month (with most higher-end ships costing 2000+ Zen, or $20 US).
I wonder what happened to just buying a game and playing it, or in the case of MMOs, just paying a monthly sub and going to town. Now I have to worry about bankrolling characters, budgeting, etc. It feels like a 2nd job. If I wanted a 2nd job, I'd drive a taxi after work. And that's why I haven't touched it in almost two months. I've been spending my time with games that don't ask me to pay a continuing tax for their upkeep (and not even being MMOs with servers and staff to maintain them), like XCom and Strike Suit Zero.
I don't mind DLC, as long as it's not paying for something that's already on the disk. If I can pay to add more content to a game I enjoy, it's like a boxed expansion for EQ: it's new code, it's new places to go, it's new systems, etc. But I *don't* like getting nickled and dimed for every last items, costume piece, consumable, etc. in a game. That's where I have to draw the line.
Here's my personal example: Star Trek Online. I have a Lifetime Sub to that game, and I'm thankful that I got as much enjoyment out of it as I did. However, as of late, with the game going F2P and Perfect World (an Eastern publisher notorious for micro-trans MMOs) now owning the game, the direction of it has not gone they way I would have liked.
Between grinding for Dilithium, grinding for faction Marks, and grinding out projects for Starbases and Embassies, the game has become, well, a massive grind at the high end. Of course, you can mitigate this by buying Zen with real money and converting it to Dilithium on the fluctuating player exchange, but it won't help you with getting Marks or commodities for projects. And beyond that, all the premium ships cost Zen.
Some will argue that you can convert Dilithium earned in-game into Zen, but either way, your looking at spending a lot of time grinding Dilithium, or a lot of money just buying Zen outright. And that goes for F2P players and players paying the optional sub, which only provides a 400 Zen stipend per month (with most higher-end ships costing 2000+ Zen, or $20 US).
I wonder what happened to just buying a game and playing it, or in the case of MMOs, just paying a monthly sub and going to town. Now I have to worry about bankrolling characters, budgeting, etc. It feels like a 2nd job. If I wanted a 2nd job, I'd drive a taxi after work. And that's why I haven't touched it in almost two months. I've been spending my time with games that don't ask me to pay a continuing tax for their upkeep (and not even being MMOs with servers and staff to maintain them), like XCom and Strike Suit Zero.
I don't mind DLC, as long as it's not paying for something that's already on the disk. If I can pay to add more content to a game I enjoy, it's like a boxed expansion for EQ: it's new code, it's new places to go, it's new systems, etc. But I *don't* like getting nickled and dimed for every last items, costume piece, consumable, etc. in a game. That's where I have to draw the line.
Personally, I think that a lot of AAA titles have taken a wrong turn. The reason I've been enjoying "retro indie wankfests" so much lately is because they seem to focus on fun gameplay. Big budget titles seem to be focusing on flashy cinematics, quick time events, to say nothing of the DRM's and DLC's. I also felt that a lot of the big titles last year were overall disappointing (not bad mind you), whereas a lot of the indie games came out of nowhere and just blew me away. Add to that, I also felt quite a few of the few AAA titles I did like, were the ones that looked like they had a smaller budget.
The second post of the thread brought up the Dark Souls easy mode controversy. Welcome to the club, where we'd like good GAMES rather than the borderline movies the triple AAA industry is putting out.Vault101 said:
Seriously? Other people's opinions are getting to you? What about (quote=Jim) 'not giving a fuck' (/quote)? We had to deal with people attacking video games for a long time, and all you're worried about is your opinion?
Your opinion does matter, just don't overblow it to the point of pretentiousness. It's the impression I'm getting from your post, and I'm a little worried about that. I don't care if you play triple AAA games. I don't. However, ranting about it doesn't seem to be the right way to go. I recently ranted about the media being absolute idiots. Other people noticed that it wouldn't help unless I changed the way I presented it.
Here's the thread in question: [link]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.398398-Dear-Media#16296753[/link]
Ranting about anything doesn't help anyone. The best thing is to gather your thoughts and decide what you're going to say in a polite manner and present them or just keep enjoying what you like and not care about the naysayers.
Voting with your wallet shows what people want in this industry, as in with each one. I will gladly throw my money at From Software as I liked Dark Souls and want to see more. I won't throw my money at Infinity Ward, as they've shown the shoddy job that was Modern Warfare 3 to us, and I don't want to see anything like MW3 again.
The hypocrisy is strong with this one...
I don't mind that you choose where and to whom to throw your money at. I do care when you label other people as idiots for not sharing your opinion. In this way, what you're saying and implying is what you hate. I don't believe that, so I'd say calm down and choose a better way to express your thoughts on the matter. Then we can have a good discussion about your complaints.