I finally got Ghost Recon on PC and I'm pissed

[General Twinkletoes]

I heard it's absolutely awful, yeah. One of the youtubers I like has pretty much the best pc you can get, it's godlike. He was getting 30-40 frames.
-_-

What's wrong with that? 24 FPS is the standard for film and television.

Because video games aren't film and television. You can tell the difference between 60 and 100 frames, because you're actually in control. Do you play PC games at all?

Yep. I don't think I'd tell the difference, to be honest. I don't really play shooters much but I've got an average PC and got along fine with Crysis 2 and Metro 2033. I haven't upgraded for 4 years and I'm running new games perfect with no problem. So I don't get all the fuss about frame-rates. I'm just saying, if I can watch space battles and action scenes in movies without the impression of it looking "absolutely awful", games should be fine too.

Arg fuck my internet and it eating my posts
Anyway, what I said before my connection decided to die in the true australian internet fashion, that's really, really odd actually. It's been proven that higher fps in games really helps. I can't snipe for shit without at least 40, I can't play RTS properly and I can't time my attacks properly in fighting games. Although, that's really lucky for you. You don't have to worry about upgrading.
In any competitive fps I try and get my fps to 60-90 at least, but if it doesn't look great on high anyway, I'll push it down low so I can get well over 300 depending on how old it is, and I can see a difference.

 

[nu1mlock]

One of the worst ports in recent gaming history. I have a PC with the requisite hardware to render the fucking Matrix if I so choose and this game chugs along at a freakin' 24 frames -or lower-. The mouse acts like it's got more important things to do than function as a controller and there's significant delay even from the freakin' keyboard.

I also compared screenshots I took (everything maxed out except motion blur. Fucking hate that.) with screenshots from the console version. For some reason Ubisoft has decided that PC gamers should be blessed with not having to look at their game and covered everything up in some strange white haze.

That sucks. I don't have a computer to render the Matrix, but I never go below 60 FPS, have no trouble with delay on either mouse or keyboard. The game works perfectly for me.

To remove the white haze, lower Volumetric light to medium and it's gone (reason why I have it on medium and not high).

It's obvious that Ubisoft have done things wrong, but I'm one of those who are lucky enough to have a perfectly working game and an enjoyable experience without any hickups at all.

Edit: I might have mixed up Volumetric Light with something else, but Volumetric Light makes sure that there are no extreme lighting on some places like indoors. Having it set to high makes some places pure white because of sunshine.

 

[AT God]

Ubisoft has a bad history of shitty ports on PC, especially when it comes to multiplayer. The Splinter Cell games, even the last good one Chaos Theory, have stupid coding issues that make co-op almost unplayable. They lock the framerate down really low and when one player acts, the other player's computer must recognize the action before the action is carried out, so firing a gun requires the game to connect to the other player's computer and then return back before a gun can fire which makes things very difficult.

I recommend waiting for reviews when buying Ubisoft ports and I wouldn't pay full price since there are so many issues with them.

Note: I have only found this flaw with Tom Clancy games, Assassins Creed series seems to work fine.

 

[Your Fearless Captain]

I heard it's absolutely awful, yeah. One of the youtubers I like has pretty much the best pc you can get, it's godlike. He was getting 30-40 frames.
-_-

What's wrong with that? 24 FPS is the standard for film and television.

You just made my head explode.

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

This link shows the difference between 60, 30, and 15. Compared to the 60 the 30 is awful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCTx_6EgUkg

Skip to 9:00 for the explanation as to why 24 fps is awful.

 

[Worgen]

Valve gives one pc game refund, it sounds like this might be a good game to use it on if you cant get ubisoft to refund your cash.

 

[MrBoBo]

I tend to only pick up Ubisoft titles now if they are on a steam sale.
As for Tom Clancy, they have pretty mucb butchered every single title associated with the name.

 

[Blood Brain Barrier]

I heard it's absolutely awful, yeah. One of the youtubers I like has pretty much the best pc you can get, it's godlike. He was getting 30-40 frames.
-_-

What's wrong with that? 24 FPS is the standard for film and television.

Because video games aren't film and television. You can tell the difference between 60 and 100 frames, because you're actually in control. Do you play PC games at all?

Yep. I don't think I'd tell the difference, to be honest. I don't really play shooters much but I've got an average PC and got along fine with Crysis 2 and Metro 2033. I haven't upgraded for 4 years and I'm running new games perfect with no problem. So I don't get all the fuss about frame-rates. I'm just saying, if I can watch space battles and action scenes in movies without the impression of it looking "absolutely awful", games should be fine too.

Ignorant pillock. Framerate and smoothness/speed of mouselook is very tightly intertwined. There's a reason you wanted a -minimum- of 60 fps in Q3A. Hell, preferably 100+. Accurate and fast aiming is vital when playing FPS games and the framerate is integral to that.

I don't know what Q3A is, but if I can finish games with framerates of 30-40 why should you have any reason to dispute me? Yeah it might be jerky something but I don't think it's been so bad as to cause my death or anything.

 

[Blood Brain Barrier]

I heard it's absolutely awful, yeah. One of the youtubers I like has pretty much the best pc you can get, it's godlike. He was getting 30-40 frames.
-_-

What's wrong with that? 24 FPS is the standard for film and television.

You just made my head explode.

http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html

This link shows the difference between 60, 30, and 15. Compared to the 60 the 30 is awful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCTx_6EgUkg

Skip to 9:00 for the explanation as to why 24 fps is awful.

Looks fine to me. I play games like that all the time. Methinks you're suffering from phile symdrome. You know those audiophiles who can't listen to anything on a system less than $10000. Yeah, like them.

 

[Dendio]

This reminds me of the horribly optimized ports of saints row 2 and LA noire.

Sonic generations also stutters pretty bad on my rig.

My pc can play mass effect 3 and skyrim and even witcher 2 without a hitch, yet these games are a pain.

 

[BoogieManFL]

This will seem a bit harsh.

When I learn something is ported from a console to PC, I say g'day and go fuck yourself with a sandpaper stick. I'm not buying your gimply poorly optimized pile of wasted money, with dumbass menu navigation and controls. It has to be something that I am REALLY interested in to even THINK about giving it a shot. Even in the rare occurrence that it runs fine, you're still stuck with bad controls and menus, and less complex game mechanics but that's another discussion.

Playing games ported from a console on a PC is like driving a car with it's speed limited to 40mph and you can't adjust the seat, mirrors, or turn on the radio.

 

[devotedsniper]

There are suiciders in real life too. Blame yourself for not being enough aware of your surroundings, you should have shot that guy/those guys before they reached your cover.

And yes, you can change mouse sensitivity. It's in the options menu.

Not being able to change options in-game is annoying though, that I agree with.

I must be going blind then cause i've only just noticed it, i couldn't find that option when i first went into the setup. And even after maxing it now that i've found it it's still pretty slow on the menu compared to how i have my mouse on desktop, i only have it set to 50% speed on Windows yet it's still faster than the ingame mouse icon(i didn't bother going into game, i'd just come out of it), i was never expecting lightening fast reactions (cod style) in terms of turn speed but i would like to be able to aim quicker rather than having to wait for the crosshair to drag itself across the screen when i'm not scoping

And as for suiciders, yes there are some but in some parts of the game it just gets stupid, When defending a hill while waiting for extract, There were several enemies running up the hill (along with other shooting from below) which is fine but you also get 4-5 (one at a time) who run up the hill on an unprotected side which again is fine...but then they just crouch by your wall (on the same side as you), putting a round every few seconds into you, surely if your gonna run and gun, you run to the top, look at the enemy and with your assualt rifle unload several bullets in one go, not shoot, check if he's dead, and repeat?

As i said i like it but i also find it annoying at times, i've always been a pretty big fan of the 3 main Tom Clancy Series (Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six and Splinter Cell) but i'm having trouble playing this one, i could sit and play them for hours on end where with this one i just find it hard to get into, the stealth stuff is great i just don't like the combat AI (even you must have seen some enemies moving constantly to lots of different cover, i mean constant, not normal changing spots but constant).

BUT there is one big plus for Ubisoft themselves! They actually have an offline mode, it does not have the stupid always online DRM.

 

[dillinger88]

I heard it's absolutely awful, yeah. One of the youtubers I like has pretty much the best pc you can get, it's godlike. He was getting 30-40 frames.
-_-

What's wrong with that? 24 FPS is the standard for film and television.

Hey man,

not gonna flame like others on here.

The reason 24 fps is ok for films and television is because when you use a camera you capture everything that happens while the shutter is open. Therefore you get some slight "blurring" if there is movement and therefore makes the frame transistion smoother.

Games, however, render a still image every frame so if there is a large amount of movement and you have a low frame rate, there is a noticeable "jumpyness". It's called Temporal aliasing, I think. So to get a smoother experience you need to render at a higher fps.

 

[nu1mlock]

And even after maxing it now that i've found it it's still pretty slow on the menu compared to how i have my mouse on desktop, i only have it set to 50% speed on Windows yet it's still faster than the ingame mouse icon(i didn't bother going into game, i'd just come out of it)

I don't think it does anything to the sensitivity of the mouse in menus, when I changed it to 1 (just to see if it worked) it was the same in the menu but slow as shit in-game.

 

[Woodsey]

This is the game which originally wasn't going to come to PC because the project lead said we were all pirates.

LOL.

 

[Xangba]

Anyone here who thinks that 24 fps isn't a problem probably isn't playing at 24 fps. Games and T.V. work way differently. It isn't a matter of being spoiled by minor smoothness or crap like that, it's a matter of literally changing how the game runs. Low fps gives a choppy, laggy, and even flat out slower game. Even music and sound can sometimes mess up with bad fps. Actually know something about gaming fps before trying to say that it's no big deal.

 

[nu1mlock]

This is the game which originally wasn't going to come to PC because the project lead said we were all pirates.

LOL.

Yet it did and I'm loving it. But then again it's working perfectly for me and three of my friends. Unfortunately it plays from perfect (in our case) to not at all (controls not working in some cases). It is a bad port, but I'm happy I'm not having any problems at all with it. Enjoying it a lot.

 

[Woodsey]

This is the game which originally wasn't going to come to PC because the project lead said we were all pirates.

LOL.

Yet it did and I'm loving it. But then again it's working perfectly for me and three of my friends. Unfortunately it plays from perfect (in our case) to not at all (controls not working in some cases). It is a bad port, but I'm happy I'm not having any problems at all with it. Enjoying it a lot.

Point being, they're either lazy or incompetent, and then they wonder why they have a bad relationship with PC gamers.

If people have the upper-hand, don't antagonise them and don't take the piss.

 

[ScrubberDucky]

Shit, I'm glad I didn't buy it. Maybe they'll fix the shit out of it with patches in a few months, but that's still pretty awful.

I'm a little sad that this sort of thing keeps happening.