I find the lack of intelligence depressing

[Haelium]

Sigh... Don't know why I'm asking this, but what is the difference between current mathematical convention and maths? Because if you're splitting hairs with this, then why dont you say that all maths that we use now is current mathematical convention and shun anyone who calls it maths?

Because it can be derived from other mathematical rules and theorems which can be derived from other rules and theorems etc etc until you're back to addition and subtraction. BOMBDAS was just made up on the spot.

 

[Brandon237]

In the last couple of months we have had two topics here with hundreds of replies discussing the outcome of a simple calculation problem. I think it was 48/2*(9+3) or something. So yeah, lots of people cannot do basic calculation...

But if you go back to that example, that isn't people not being able to do maths that's because of condencing it to one line and the different ways it can be read. This is a simple case of multilipaction having higher operational order than addition.

This; hell, on that old one different BODMAS / PEMDAS whatever the hell is used calculators gave different answers

Although this is very basic, I can understand missing the minus sign, but the fact that the 0x1 is grouped together like that is even a hint. So yeah, I am disappointed

 

[Haelium]

ahh and the average IQ drops anothere precious notch

I detect another worshipper of the flawed IQ system. Also, Knowledge =/= intelligence.

You know what, fuckit, most people on this website(As on the rest of the web) are just simpletons looking for an excuse to claim superiority. Most people on this thread are absolute fucking idiots who don't know the difference between knowledge and intelligence or who refuse to acknowledge the difference between hard maths and convention.

Get a fucking life and take your head out of your asses you useless fucking excuses for human beings.

/banned

 

[Skwire]

Am I the only one who is getting 4? Correct me if I'm wrong.
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1-1+1+1+1+1+1+1*0
10-6+0=4

EDIT: Never mind, got it wrong.

 

[mJTyXmFDbc]

I don't think that people's ability to remember order of operations is really indicative of their intelligence, I mean most of the time I have seen any ambiguity even in maths or programming, people just stick brackets in anyway, rather than leave it ambiguous and hence claim superiority over all of the underlings who don't know the particular nuances of that operator or language.

 

[Hamish Durie]

I detect another worshipper of the flawed IQ system. Also, Knowledge =/= intelligence.

You know what, fuckit, most people on this website(As on the rest of the web) are just simpletons looking for an excuse to claim superiority. Most people on this thread are absolute fucking idiots who don't know the difference between knowledge and intelligence or who refuse to acknowledge the difference between hard maths and convention.






hay chill man was a joke i know that the IQ doesnt = knowledge

 

[Gobmech]

Oh, give it a fucking rest. Someone's knowledge of math says nothing about them except their knowledge of math. In the end, the only thing that's important is whether somebody is a dickhead, and if you judge people based on math, I'm afraid you're even more inferior than you are suggesting everybody else is. Get down from your piedestal and start living with the rest of us instead. If you really are depressed, don't you think it's because you're all alone in your exclusive club?

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

We're just fucking monkeys in shoes...

Honestly, I doubt that everyone was looking closely at that equation, and even if they were...how exactly does not being good at it detract from the human experience in any way?

I don't know if it's down to the average age of this sites users, but there is a ridiculous emphasis on the importance of formal education.

 

[Spongebobdickpants]

Ok, I realise facebook isn't the place to go for intelligence but seriously...

This is one those vote quiz things that goes around. If you look the answer 0 is winning on almost a million. This means almost a million people since this stared, a week ago, cannot do simple maths.

What's more is this is just those on facebook who've seen this and bothered to answer. This is a seriously depressing realisation of what humanity is becoming.

Edited to remove typo in title.

But if you multiply anything by 0 don't you always get 0?

you multiply 1x0 1st then you do the additions and subtractions.
so question is 10-1+5+0 which is 14

 

[aDuck]

Sigh... Don't know why I'm asking this, but what is the difference between current mathematical convention and maths? Because if you're splitting hairs with this, then why dont you say that all maths that we use now is current mathematical convention and shun anyone who calls it maths?

Because it can be derived from other mathematical rules and theorems which can be derived from other rules and theorems etc etc until you're back to addition and subtraction. BOMBDAS was just made up on the spot.

First of all, I know that "BODMAS/etc" was made up on the spot. It is a simplification of the order of operations. What I have been talking about was not BODMAS itself, but what it represents (Order of operations). Second, you didn't answer my question in the slightest. Thirdly, the order of operations are accepted mathematic convention (which is included in maths). This means that this question (which its aim is to test someones knowledge of the order of operations and how it is implemented) has everything to do with maths.

 

[Haelium]

Mathematics is the study of quantity, structure, space, and change.
Mathematical convention is just how we present mathematical statements at this time.

 

[The_ModeRazor]

Well, I guess they were just joking. Trolling. Whatever. Anyone what went to primary school knows that anything x 0 = 0. But actually, multiplication comes before addition, so the answer is not, in fact, 0.
And intelligence is a term that is hard to define. I wouldn't call myself unintelligent for instance, and other people tell me that I am indeed, intelligent, but my avarage score on intelligence tests is something around 105. Completely avarage. So who knows. Maybe they're just lying to make me feel better.

 

[aDuck]

Mathematics is the study of quantity, structure, space, and change.
Mathematical convention is just how we present mathematical statements at this time.

So what your telling me is you dont know the difference, so you use the wikipedia definition of maths and the definition of convention with maths chucked in it.
Mathematical convention IS Maths.

 

[James13v]

Most people don't need to remember the order of processing for maths, to survive from day to day.

If, in the future, everyone needed to know PEMDAS/BIMDAS due to some cultural change, where our lives depended on knowing which interaction to process first, I'm sure people would pick it up without trouble.

 

[Dr Jones]

Ok, I realise facebook isn't the place to go for intelligence but seriously... 1

This is one those vote quiz things that goes around. If you look the answer 0 is winning on almost a million. This means almost a million people since this stared, a week ago, cannot do simple maths.

What's more is this is just those on facebook who've seen this and bothered to answer. This is a seriously depressing realisation of what humanity is becoming.

Edited to remove typo in title.

But if you multiply anything by 0 don't you always get 0?

Yeh, but look again. It says 1+1+1+1x0, if it says that the last number +1x0 should be timed with 0, not the entire number. If it should be 0 total, then it would have to look like this 1+1+1+1=4
4x0

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

Well, I guess they were just joking. Trolling. Whatever. Anyone what went to primary school knows that anything x 0 = 0. But actually, multiplication comes before addition, so the answer is not, in fact, 0.
And intelligence is a term that is hard to define. I wouldn't call myself unintelligent for instance, and other people tell me that I am indeed, intelligent, but my avarage score on intelligence tests is something around 105. Completely avarage. So who knows. Maybe they're just lying to make me feel better.

Intelligence is technically speaking the combination of a few specific mental abilities. They include pattern recognition, arithmetical ability, verbal comprehension, puzzle solving, logic and reasoning. Intelligence in it's technical sense does not include memory, knowledge, wisdom/common sense, spatial awareness or full on mathematical ability among many other mental faculties.

However most people use the term 'intelligence' as a general word for 'smart'. The IQ score, which many argue for and against, measures 'intelligence' specifically and does not reflect on intelligence in the broader sense that most people use it for (ie. smart). One can be smart, with a great memory and a wealth of knowledge, but be poor at pattern recognition, logic puzzles or arithmetic problems.

 

[Dirzzit]

Implying that question is about intelligence and not simple observation

Simple as that. All I see here is a person inflating his ego like a pig.

 

[Haelium]

Mathematics is the study of quantity, structure, space, and change.
Mathematical convention is just how we present mathematical statements at this time.

So what your telling me is you dont know the difference, so you use the wikipedia definition of maths and the definition of convention with maths chucked in it.
Mathematical convention IS Maths.

Oh no, you caught me quoting somewhere else for an accurate description. You have thoroughly pwned me my good sir. Saying that they're the same is like saying that a keyboard layout is the same as English. Mathamatical convention is a way of presenting it, it can change, maths cannot. Is this getting through to you? I know it isn't, but no harm in asking anyway.

Different cultures can change how maths is read, but they cannot change maths itself.

 

[thtool]

Everyone defending this is terrible. This thread has lowered my faith in humanity a lot less than the facebook part.

 

[JokerCrowe]

Ok, I realise facebook isn't the place to go for intelligence but seriously...

This is one those vote quiz things that goes around. If you look the answer 0 is winning on almost a million. This means almost a million people since this stared, a week ago, cannot do simple maths.

What's more is this is just those on facebook who've seen this and bothered to answer. This is a seriously depressing realisation of what humanity is becoming.

Edited to remove typo in title.

Personally I find the lack of people who are accepting of others depressing. If you really find this as depressing as you make it seem, why not try to do something about it? Try to explain to people that no matter what you add up, if you multiply it by 0 the answer will always be 0. Learning is a very efficient vaccine against "stupiditis".

EDIT: Apparently I was wrong about the answer being 0, but my point still stands, if you get sick of stupid people, try to cure them of their horrible, horrible illness. I learned from my mistake, and I'm a little smarter now than I was a moment ago.